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ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 06:04

Right so it would appear that the image file you have is correctly labelled. No problems there.

Have you ever changed the compatibility after reinstalling it?

Is the copy you have installed now exactly as it was the minute installation finished? i.e no other image mounted, compatibility mode switched off (double chack that one) no extra files, and set up so that Daemon Tools is not running but Antiblaxx IS running?

Finally if the answer to all above is yes, are you trying to run it by double clicking the shortcut, the fm.exe file in the install directory or through the Anti Blaxx icon?


I'm getting more stressed trying to sort this for you guys than I did for myself. Sorry I've not managed to get you up and running yet.

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 06:07

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Have you ever changed the compatibility after reinstalling it?
Yep, tried it with and without it onto the nt4 thing

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Is the copy you have installed now exactly as it was the minute installation finished?
Right now? Nope, the compatibility thing has changes, but I have tried a reinstall already and not changed anything and then it just asks me for the correct cd in the drive, with the compatibility changed nothing happens at all.

Everything else is correct

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Finally if the answer to all above is yes, are you trying to run it by double clicking the shortcut, the fm.exe file in the install directory or through the Anti Blaxx icon?
I did what you said, clicked it in the Anti Blaxx thing then tried it with the exe.

Quote:

I'm getting more stressed trying to sort this for you guys than I did for myself. Sorry I've not managed to get you up and running yet.
No worries, appreciate the help.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 06:13

So if you uninstall, reinstall and follow the steps, it STILL asks for the CD?

ikonify 24-10-2005 06:14

yea thanks for the help still not workin though i think theres somthing wrong with my daemon tools

bob_geldof 24-10-2005 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsenalFc
Bob_geldof, i'll try to explain this ok.


thx at least i now know, will look for that fix as i think that is all that can help me now thanks again.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 06:17

Why not? DO you not have he 700mb image? If not I assume you have your original CD to have installed it. Make an image from that

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 06:19

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So if you uninstall, reinstall and follow the steps, it STILL asks for the CD?
When I dont change the compatibility it asks for the cd and when I do it doesn't do anything, tried it both ways after re-installing

Joe Forster/STA 24-10-2005 06:23

Guys, see http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=131341 for a guide on how to create mini images. If the result is still too big for you, you can cut its size down with ISODir: http://cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdr...#ISO Directory (until it stops working :D).

bob_geldof 24-10-2005 06:28

I installed fm2006 and then went to get a drink come back and my smashed cd tray drive lies on the floor with my daughter saying to me "sorry, sorry".
After beating her to an inch of her life :eek: (joke ) I decide that i will not buy a new cd drive just yet (as skint, thank you half term) and need some kind of patch.

And yes i know the worst luck ever does apply here.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 06:40

Hmmmm. Weeeiiiirrrddd.

Right I know I'm repeating myself here, but I'm just gonna run through all issues thus far:

You've totally uninstalled the game
You've then reinstalled it
The image is mounted on the virtual drive and then Daemon Tools closed
Dameon Tools is then totally exited from right clicking the taskbar option.
You're loading up Anti-blaxx, and the settings are:

Daemon Tools: c:\**WHEREVER YOU INSTALLED IT\daemon.exe
Security: SecuROM 5
Image: Path to the ind-fm2006.mds file
Game: c:\**WHEREVER YOU INSTALLED IT\fm.exe
It's set to use Daemon Tools and not Alcohol 120%

You right click the antiblaxx icon, choose "Run Game" take the only option (the one you just made) and nowt happens?


You should see 8 cmd boxes appear, and disappear again quite quick. Then nothing happens. For quite a while, but if you press CTRL+ALT+DEL, then click on Processes, you will see the fm.exe process running, just be patient.

Duble check all thats right, if you have problems still, I have just installed it on my work PC to check my methods, and took screenshots of every step. It's working fine.

Just say the word and I'll post the screenshots.

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 06:46

All thats right but

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You should see 8 cmd boxes appear, and disappear again quite quick. Then nothing happens. For quite a while, but if you press CTRL+ALT+DEL, then click on Processes, you will see the fm.exe process running, just be patient.
Nothing shows up in the processes thing ever.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 06:49

Do you get the 8 cmd prompt boxes opening?

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 06:53

Yep, all that happens.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 06:59

What are the specs of your machine then? That's pretty much what it does. I did have to wait a few moments till it opened on mine though. Tried restarting the machine? Or possibly uninstall, restart, reinstall, restart?

You're doin g everything right so 10-1 on it's some tiny little oversight catching us out (As I said, mine was leaving D-Tools running)

Double check your Antiblaxx settings are identical to this screenshot

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 07:02

Yep, its the same, my specs are amd2400 i think it is and 1gb ram.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 07:14

Right I would say just as an exasperated attempt to iron out ANY flaws, remove all 3 programs, then reinstall them all, D-Tools then FM2006 and then Antiblaxx. Double checkt he compatibility mode hasn't been "remembered" and it's not switching you to NT Version 4 every time you install it. Follow the instructions to the letter checking them by that screenshot. Restart every time you're prompted to and once more for luck when it's all done.

I just loaded mine up, exited and loaded up again so the repeat load problem won't occur once we get this sorted.

Also once you've uninstalled the game, delete the Football Manager 2006 folder. In fact delete EVERYTHING except the mds and mdf files for the install disc so that's all you have.

Do that and your system will be in the same state as my laptop last night and my work pc 20 minutes ago. Hopefully that'll iron out whatever is wrong.

ikonify 24-10-2005 07:45

I got it working using a different metod

1. Uninstall anti blaxx (i dont think you have to do this but with it on my machine daemon tools wasnt working)

2. Download the 6.01 patch

3.mount the disk image to d-tools

4.set compatibility to windows nt 4.0 service pack 5

5.run game

after 4 days of trying this finaly worked for me running the game on nt did not work without the patch

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 07:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikonify
I got it working using a different metod

1. Uninstall anti blaxx (i dont think you have to do this but with it on my machine daemon tools wasnt working)

2. Download the 6.01 patch

3.mount the disk image to d-tools

4.set compatibility to windows nt 4.0 service pack 5

5.run game

after 4 days of trying this finaly worked for me running the game on nt did not work without the patch

Thats how I got it working then I quit and then it stopped working

I uninstalled Daemon and now it wont let me re-install, says some drivers have invalid names and conflicts, now now it wont let me install it.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 07:52

Sounds like theres some nastiness on your syste. I dunno why Daemon Tools would have reinstallation problems! Did you reboot after uninstalling?

If so try the same thing, but using Alcohol to mount it (and change the 2 antiblaxx settings accordingly). By all accounts it now seems it may have been D-Tools causing the aggro.


EDIT: - Now that I think about it I HAVE heard reports of antiblaxx and daemon not getting on well for some people, though I've had no problems. Perhaps this is the issue? Well try A120% and we'll take it from there mate.

ikonify 24-10-2005 07:53

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I uninstalled Daemon and now it wont let me re-install, says some drivers have invalid names and conflicts, now now it wont let me install it.

yep quit it there n it wont let me back on

daemon tools in the start up you can name your drivers

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 08:01

BTW, in my computer its still showing up as fm 2006 like before even tho I have uninstalled it?? And now with alcohol running it has put up a new drive? So now I have 2 mounted drives and the old one won't go.

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 08:07

Ok, I clicked on 'eject' and now it's gone back to saying it's my dvd drive.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 08:10

Ok we'll deal with that in a second.

The virtual drive still installed is the Daemon Tools one. Possibly why it won't reinstall as the drive is clearly still there. This is the one with FM2006 still on it. You won't be able to unmount that image just yet, so what you need to do is take note of the drive letter and device number of the Alcohol 120% drive and change the settings in Antiblaxx.
Again I assume you need to make sure alcohol isn't running when you try to run the game.

Summarise - the changes needed in antiblaxx are:

Alcohol 120% path selected
"Device" drop down list correct (probably device 1)
Circular checkbox underneath the game path is on Use Alcohol 120% not Use Daemon Tools
Mount Image box ticked (of course)

good luck!


EDIT:- If you've ejected the image from the older virtual drive, you may be able to remove daemon tools properly now. (or reinstall it).

See if it's in the "add/remove programs" list. If so, try uninstall again

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 08:18

Now it says 'run time error 53, file not found'

I give up man, thanks anyways

floyd146 24-10-2005 08:22

Help!!
 
Well I've played the game a few days now and borrowed it to a friend and he went on holiday with the disk and I would download the crack so I could play it without cd.....

But I haven't got the CD so I cannot make the image!!!!!!! Can someone send me the file so I could replace it with my own FM?????

Thank you!!!!!

E-mail: jimmyfloyd146**********com

Floyd

manuello7 24-10-2005 08:22

This won't stop until a 4mb or somewhere near mini cd image is released. Why has it taken so long? It's not hard to do so.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 08:32

File not found?

That just sounds ike one of the files antiblaxx is pointing to has changed, just re-browse for Alcohol and fm.exe and see what happens

The solution is here and I WILL find it because now I'm getting annoyed at being outsmarted by a machine!

wiggyuk 24-10-2005 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsenalFc
Wait a minute, are you lot all using the MINI image????


As I said in the last 2, I am doing this with the FULL image of the original CD, not the mini image. If you wewre trying the MI, try using the full .mds of the CD.

That is probably where most people are going wrong I like most others are using the mini image posted in on the first page

manuello7 24-10-2005 08:36

Yeah, I think that all the discussion about Sega Football Manager 2006 (which is about the 95% of this thread, except the first post and some others) should be located in a new thread, because people is getting confused.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 08:43

No I think we're cleared up that this thread is about the Sports Interactive/Sega title Football Manager 2006 releasedon October 21st.

The mini Image I definately see being a cause of major fault, as is leavin D-Tools running while executing the game through anti-blaxx.

I would be interested in having other people who had troubles following my advice and see if it works for them, as so far it's got two of us up and running, and worked a third time on my work PC, but let one person down as well, so If it is working with everyone else we can look a little deeper at whats causing whateverandever1982's problems more specifically.

So anyone havign trouble, or even if you have it going, if you wouldn't mind trying the D-Tools/Alcohol (some results from both would help) and Anti-blaxx method, and report back with your results.

Grumpy 24-10-2005 08:43

@floyd146
If you no longer have the disc then we can not help you! Read the forum rules, no disc=no help!

@manuello7
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Why has it taken so long? It's not hard to do so.
Like you say, its not hard to do, so why dont you just do it instead of expecting others to do everything for you?

@whateverandever1982
Before uninstalling either Alcohol 120 or Daemon Tools always make sure to unmount any images in the virtual drives first! If you dont you will certainly have problems reinstalling! There is a article describing this problem on the alcohol site. ;)

ikonify 24-10-2005 08:45

i think whats causing whateverandever's problem is the disk image he has seen as myself aand him have the same image and seem to have the same problems

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 08:46

Oh damn, that'd be my bad! I asked him to uninstall and didnt think that not unmounting would be an issue.

Sorry!!!

And Ikonify, I don't think his image has anything wrong with it meself, I really think the configuration of all the programs is the key to this one.

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 08:52

It wont let me re-install Daemon now, right, I have uninstalled everything again and will try it again later and follow these steps

Quote:

Make sure your image is .mdf format, from Alcohol 120%
Install Daemon Tools, mount the .mds image and EXIT DAEMON TOOLS. This means it should NOT be running in your taskbar at all!
Install and run AntiBlaxx. Right click on the icon in your taskbar and click on Settings.
Click the button next to Deamon Tools in the popup window and browse to the .exe file.
In the "Protection" box select "SecuROM 5"
Click the button next to the "Game" field and browse to the fm.exe file wherever you installed the game.
Tick the box that says "Mount Image", make sure that the circular box next to Daemon Tools to the right of this is selected, then click the button next to the Image box and browse to the mds file. Finally make sure device is set to Device 0 (assuming you didn't ceate additional virtual drives in Daemon Tools)

When all this is done, make sure Daemon Tools IS NOT RUNNING and right click the anti-blaxx icon, go up to Run Game and select the only one in there (default name is simply Gamename).

Now it will seem like nothing is happening. Double click the FM2006 shortcut on your desktop and an error box apppears saying the game is already running. Click the button to close that error message and wait a moment, the game will load. After that you should be able to run it from antiblaxx everytime you want to play.
Instead changing the Daemon Tools bits to Alcohol, right now I am hungry tho.

unleashedmaniac 24-10-2005 08:55

Hi, i have tried all the advice that has been posted but have the problem that when FM tries to load, an error message appears saying that the program has encountered an error and needs to close, when i click to see what data the error report contains and then technical information about the error report, it says the following files will be included in this error report:

C:\DOCUME~1\james\LOCALS~1\Temp\6bae_appcompat.txt

I would be grateful for any help, as it is getting me very stressed.

whateverandever1982 24-10-2005 08:58

On the compatibility thing do I set it to NT4?

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 08:58

Yep, that all still applies, just with Alcohol not Daemon as you said. And do NOT change compatibility!!!!!!!

I'm off in a bit but will be home from work around 6ish and log back on to see if I can help more and *hopefully* get some feedback from others.

My mate has his PC at mine so I may try it totally from fresh on his, depends if I can be bothered to uninstall it all again afterwards cos well, sod him he wants the game he can shell out like I had to!


On a side note, to anyone asking us for the full image:- We PAID for this game outta our own hard earned. Now I'm sorry of you're disc isn't available at present, and while I accuse no one of anything, it's obviously very easy to make up some reason you can't use the original right now, but I don't think anyone would be happy to pay full whack then start helping anyone else get it free. If you bought a painting would you loan it out to others to do a tracing of? Hell no, it's your painting, it goes on your wall and people come to your place to admire it.

Sorry if that's harsh but it may keep this thread to discussion on solving problems, not a repeated request.

noscript 24-10-2005 09:09

damn, are you not able to read? Use SafeDisc 4 Hider, MINI Images are not possible any longer since Safedisc 4.6 does not store the bad sectors in the first 3megs of the image.

ArsenalFc 24-10-2005 09:14

Are YOU not able to maintain a degree of politeness? People have explained that they've tried every method to no avail so I'm TRYING to help them acheive it through the method I'm familiar with. People have said your way doesnt work, they've said mine doesn't, at least I'm on here trying to help people, so if you've got nothing more detailed or worthwhile to say other than "Use Safedisc 4 hider" at least get of the cases of those who are trying to identify the problem and help, and those who are just trying to learn for themselves.

Little bit of politeness goes far mate.

JTanna 24-10-2005 09:14

I 4got my cd
 
Hi

I have football manager 2006, pre-ordered it months ago. Unfortunaetly i 4got the game at my friedns house who i will not see 4 weeks now :mad: can sum1 plz send me the image to JTanna60**********com.

Do i need to use a mini image or a full image??

Thanx 4 any help


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