Heyho that is a good idea but i doesn´t have the old files anywhere because i have patched and no backup of the files can u send me the old files, or anyone other? thx

Hello, the only thing you have to do is to deinstall the Patch, then you have the old files in your Gamedir, make a backup and reinstall the Patch, overwrite the files and have fun, when it doesn`t work you must reinstall the Game.

Greets Starraider

Ok i will try it ;) thx

Just a reminder that we don't allow asking for files that you can get off the original cd. So if what Starraider suggested doesn't work, you'll have to reinstall..

Sorry, but it works, first, when you have installed the Patch, you will find two files of Spellforce2 - Shadow Wars in your SystemControl, one file has the Date of Installing your game and one file shows unknown Date, both Files show you that you have installed 3.365 MB of the Game, the File with the unknown Date is the Patchfile, when you deinstall the File with the unknown Date, Spellforce2 in Version 1.0 is still in your Game Dir with your original installed Files and you can Start the Game as well, that works for me, try it and you will see, sorry for my english, i will hope you can understand it.

Greets Starraider:)

Hi,

I've tried to do exactly as you described, but it's not working... :(
I made an exact copy with Alcohol 120 (latest version), and downloaded the .mds from copybase. I have them on the same directory with the exact same name.
Then I trimmed my image file with ISOdir, but I'm not sure if any specific configurations are needed (I used the default options for ISOdir). But which extension should the mini-image file have? .iso or .mdf? If it's .mdf, I can't save it to the same directory as the other .mdf and .mds files, or it will overwrite my exact image...
Anyway, I tried with the same name and placed the mini image on the desktop. Then I tried mounting either the exact image, the mini-image or even both at the same time, but it still doesn't work, I still get the "please insert original disk" message... What am I doing wrong?

My game was already installed from the dvd before I made the .mdf file, do I need to uninstall and install it again from the image?

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,

Lelila

P.S. I think we're talking about the same version of the game, mine is the unpatched english version, bought in the UK.

If you have problems with your mini image, download a mini image from gamecopyworld.com
http://m0003.gamecopyworld.com/games.../Fixed%20Image

After you have installed the game from your dvd, place the mini image-files anywhere. Mount them with DT4.03 and it should work.

I think your steps were more complicated than it is necessary :)

Greets

Thanks for the help, indeed it was a lot simpler... :)
Problem is, I still have to disable my dvd-rom drive in the control panel, I thought you said it wouldn't be necessary. Anyway, it's working, so thanks. :)

Lelila


EDIT:
Problem solved. :)
I found another mini-image online that doesn't require disabling optical drives.

A new error
 

Hi everybody! I'm here again with a new problem! I solved my problem installing the game on a ntfs hard disk; now the game runs, and I can play it; but when it's loading the "Settetorrioni" (it's in italian, I think in English is something like seventower) world appear an error and then the fatal access violation! What's this?

P.S. I've installed the patch.

Kardio, try to determine if this happens when the original cd/dvd is used. It may be a generic program error and you'll have to consult the developers forums about that.

What do you mean by system control? Is it add/remove programs in the control panel?

You can try to copy the SpellForce2.exe and the protect.dll from your DVD and paste it into your SpellForce 2 game dir.
(After you have patched the game!).

It should be the same result...

Greets

Yes, that`s what i mean!

Greets Starraider

If i use the original .exe, i don't think that the game uses the patch files. In the main menu it says game version 1.0 and build bla-bla-bla...

It will use some patched files.
There are plenty of users, who can confirm this.
For example a bug or more bugs which was/were gone after the patch, even if you use the orig exe and dll.

Maybe the patched exe and dll-file do only update the copyprotection.
Or some other minor things.
Who knows?...

Greets

I got an error when trying to enter the sevenkeeps map. Tried several times, but still the same bug. So after some tries i decided to delete the .pak files that the patch created... and whoila - problems dissapeared. Quite wierd that the patch makes new bugs to replace the ones it fixed ;)

I have the australian version which I believe uses the tages protection, does anyone know how to bypass tages?

hi
i'm a new user with very bad english
i have this problem :An access violation occured and the program must quit !!
and when i install new winxp sp2 whit ntfs format
i could solve my problem.

if you have problem "access violation occured " you must Update you game and install patch 1.01 and BE WORK :))

One thing I don't understand is that why unpatched retail version of games like SpellForce 2, & Blazing Angels work with one type of MiniImage but after patching, they refuse to run...
I mean, even with drives DC'ed...

In the v1.01, some changes may have been made in the EXE's code aswell... thats why it is crashing on that particualr map...

Spricht hier auch jemand deutsch der mir erklären kann wie ich Spellforce 2 zum laufen bekomme???

Hab das spiel installiert und das mds image von Gamecopyworld in demon tool V4.03HE Gemounted und dann kommt der kopierschutz !!!

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilfe!!!!

Klar sprechen hier einige Deutsch.
Hast du den offiziellen Patch installiert?
Das solltest du nämlich lassen, da dieser den Kopierschutz aktualisiert.
Hast du dir die Beiträge hier gut durchgelesen (falls du etwas Englisch kannst)?
Achte auch darauf, dass es auf gcw mehrere Mini Images gibt!

Sure there are people who speak German.
Have you installed the official patch?
You shoudn't install it, because it does update the copy-protection.
Have you read the other posts (if you can understand English)?
There are some mini images at gcw, look for the right!

Greets

Ja hab mir das hier alles schon paar mal durchgelesen aber trotz meiner englisch kenntnisse raff ich das alles net so !!Den patch hab ich nicht instaliert!! Wo find ich die mini images ich find da nur

* SpellForce 2 v1.0 [MULTI5] No-CD/Fixed Image
* SpellForce 2 v1.0 [EURO] No-CD/Fixed Image

* SpellForce 2 [MULTI] NO INTRO FIX
* SpellForce 2 SAVEGAME
die standard dinger die unter spellforce 2 stehen ich bin echt am verzweilfeln weil ich das spiel nicht zum laufen bekomme!
Und weil ich auch nicht so der pc profi bin wäre eine detailierte anleitung auf deutsch echt sehr nett!!

Ach du meinst mdf und mds???
Hab ich runtergeladen und in Demon tool V4.03HE getan aber es funzt nicht!!

Hey also weis zwar nicht wie aber jetzt funktioniert es aber neues problem jetzt will das spiel den cd key ganz am anfang von mir??°!!

Na dann nimm deinen Original-Key.
Und sag jetzt bloß nicht du hast keinen Key!

Just use your original-key.
And don't tell me you haven't a key!

Hmm natürlich hab ich keinen key!! lol Wofür bräuchte ich denn das alles hier wenn ich mir das spiel original kaufen würde!?!?!?

Ich hab nen 1€ job das kann ich mir net leisten!!

Dann kann ich dir leider nicht weiterhelfen, bye.

Then I cannot help you anymore, bye.

@Minkel
1) My German is not good but I believe this says:
"Naturally I dont have a CD Key!!"
But I will let the German Moderator deal with you!

2) English only! Its an English only forum.

Almost right :)
natürlich == of course
which makes things a little more obvious :D

1€ Job, also sowas :/

X3 just got fixed good 'n proper...
There is always hope!

I greatly appreciate the time and effort the staff and crackers put into making maxis, minis, and no-cd exe's for all of my (legally purchased) games.

That said, I have a slight problem....

I was given spellorce2 for my bday, last month.
Didn't ask for it, the lil woman overheard a friend telling me about it.....
Actually she heard the part right before "....I bought a 6800gt and it still doesn't work....". ;)
It's the PCCD version, bought here in the United States...
I would've preferred the dvd version, not having to swap cd's 4 times with install. But what can you do, right?

I'm just curious, not being pushy or demanding...
If there is any recent headway on an image for this game?
And what can I do to help, not only myself, but the entire gaming community faced with the same problem.

I noticed that the MULTI and EURO images are DVD, and I knew they wouldn't work, but the adventurer in me just had to try.

I have a newer alcohol120, the latest DT4, nero 6.6, and a little determination.
If you gentlemen need me to run another application and tell (or send) you what the output is, I would be more than happy to...

To be clear, I'm not asking for/offering any assistance in copying the entire game, or allowing someone who doesn't own the game to install it.
Just a no-cd fix for the play disc (disc1) so I don't have to take my lazy butt over to my bookcase and get it out of the box everytime I have time to play it.

I've attempted to make an image of the disc1 with Alc120, and mount with DT4....
But I keep getting the dialogue box saying "Please insert original "Spellforce 2"cd/dvd" (and of course, 'OK" button)

So much for the easy route huh.
I've read through all 8 pages of this thread, and didn't see anything specific about the PCCD version.
I understand it has TAGES protection, although I can't begin to tell you what that means except something about an 'area' of specific data found in a specific place on the CD.

Maybe I'm just too tired and overlooked something, if so I would greatly appreciate any feedback on this, including criticism.
Please feel free to be as detailed as possible..... ;)

Again, Thanks.
MD

tagés is not a special ring on the cd, its duplicated sectors, one sector containing bad data, the other containing good, the driver handles the requests and reads the right sector (in a backwards fashion... ie say it wanted sector 100, it would seek to sector 101, then read backwards, getting the real duplicated sector, normal cddrives read forwards, so without the real cd, you'd read the crap sector... = game over

Wow, fast reply, nice.
Thanks for the correction, 'ring' isn't the correct context I was going for, 'area' would have been a little better.

TAGES sounds like a real bear....
How does one go about finding the affected sector(s), and once found, successfully creating an image to mount.

Dealing with this brand of copy protection, what is the chance of getting a no-cd exe, as opposed to a mini.
Assuming the game doesn't need any additional information from the CD, besides the protection required at the startup.

I'm far from expert in this area, I could be completely wrong, but it almost sounds easier to neuter the appropriate files to not look for the play disc.....
You guys are the Pro's, I'll believe whatever you tell me.
If theres any way I can be of assistance, by all means let me know.

you're asking 2 different things....

1. no-cd exe = protection removed...
2. image of game... maxi or mini.. doesnt matter, there is currently no software at the moment that makes an image for tagés protected disks, it can be done however, but usually requires a lot of time , a lot of trial and error and (non public) dedicated software

the game DOES require extra information from the cd/dvd, some of the game code is actually located in these 'dupe' sectors, and loaded runtime, ie: as you're playing the game, so technically the cdcheck could happen whenever the coders want it to happen.. tagés is implimented at source code level

someone who makes a maxi/mini/whatever image is NOT a cracker
someone who removes the protection code and makes a working executable IS

there is a huge difference between the two

chances of getting a tagés crack / no-cd/dvd exe = same as getting a starforce crack or whatever.. all depends if the cracker could be bothered puting the time and effort into it...

any assistance... doubtful, no offence but you couldnt really assist given the fact that you know very very little about the protection...

all you can do is be patient and see if a crack ever does happen for the game, or if some software arrives that can make tagés images...

and before you ask, nope i cant get involved in cracking/helping to crack it.. sorry

@TippeX
I just had to say your last 2 responses in this thread were very well said.
Very educational and very diplomatic. Its great to see replies like that. ;)

I agree, I appreciate responses like that.
Only thing I can add is the speedy nature of them ;)

You have told me exactly what I wanted to know.
Trust me, I'm patient if nothing else.
It's not a big problem to run the CD.
I just noticed that there hadn't been any thread activity in a month or so and figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
And share the miniscule bit of information I had to offer.

The way you talk, it sounds like if anything comes out, It'll be a maxi/mini image depending on the ammount of data the game needs from the CD.
Either way, patience is the key.
Thanks again.

oh, almost forgot too.. if a maxi/mini/full (which probably wont be allowed on gcw) image of the game is made, burning it could be problematic too.. depending on how it was made... a while ago an image of moto racer 3 was released, it worked, but could not be burned due to the duplicate sector stuff, the situation might change later but chances are as/when/if an image appears for this game it probably wont be burnable and will have to be mounted.. there are rumors that daemon tools will soon be able to do tages.. so i guess patience is the key here :)

Thats good info, thanks.
If there was a downloadable image, I would download it directly with the gaming pc and mount it from its destination.
As a rule, that always how I do it.

Patience isn't a big thing for me.
I'm splitting my time between 3 or 4 games already, and when battlefield 2142 is demo/beta released I'll be all over that.

Matter of fact, BF2142 is prolly the next game I'll be looking for a play disc image on. ;)