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Nightmare 18-03-2006 03:22

Hi,
maybe someone has posted this, too.
But I cannot search words like "USB or IDE" (too short).

I cannot play the games without unplugging my drives.
I tried everything.

Will a "USB 2.0 TO IDE CABLE DRIVE ADAPTER" solve this problem?
For example this here (ebay-german):
http://cgi.ebay.de/USB-2-0-TO-IDE-CA...ayphotohosting

Thanks!

Greets

Joe Forster/STA 20-03-2006 03:51

I wouldn't buy such stuff from Ebay. Instead, why don't you buy a nice kit from ViPower:

- a VP-8054V (an IDE docking station with a SmartCable port and a PSU), OR

- a VP-8054KIT (like the VP-8054V plus a complete external IDE box, for hard disk rack or CD/DVD-ROM etc.), AND

- a VP-8208 cable (USB 2.0 SmartCable; don't get the VP-8008, it's USB 1.1!) or any other SmartCable you like

in a shop? That should give you reliable performance via a USB connection. I'm very satisfied with it! :)

Dr. Killer 20-03-2006 04:41

Why dont you just disable all your cd-roms (or writers) at your "Device Manager"? That worked for me!

Grumpy 20-03-2006 05:21

@Dr. Killer
Quote:

Why dont you just disable all your cd-roms (or writers) at your "Device Manager"?
Unfortunately what works for one person does not necassarily work for another. It doesnt work for everyone. ;)

Dr. Killer 20-03-2006 06:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy
@Dr. Killer

Unfortunately what works for one person does not necassarily work for another. It doesnt work for everyone. ;)

Everyone recommend this. It worked for me and all my friends.
You can atleast give this a try.

Nightmare 20-03-2006 06:45

@Dr. Killer: It doesn't work for me! Also with Virtual Drive, no chance!
It works for my friend, because he has a(n) Sata-HDD. Special feature: He needn't to disable any cd/dvd-devices :D
Lucky fool :p

@Joe Forster/STA: I don't want to buy something like this from ebay.
I only wanted to know, if this (some devices/adapters like this) would solve my problem.

I don't want to unplug my cd/dvd-writer.
And if I use my cd/dvd-writer via usb, maybe StarForce won't be able to use its "mights" :)

I also red, that with a usb-driver, you are able to burn StarForce games and to play them. Of course RMPS must be on.

I will search for the adapters.
Thanks :)

Greets

Dr. Killer 21-03-2006 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightmare85
@Dr. Killer: It doesn't work for me! Also with Virtual Drive, no chance!
It works for my friend, because he has a(n) Sata-HDD. Special feature: He needn't to disable any cd/dvd-devices :D
Lucky fool :p
Greets

I forgot to say. There are certain programs like anydvd that have to be disabled first. :D

Nightmare 21-03-2006 10:07

I haven't AnyDVD.
Which other programs should be closed, too?
I have also other virtual cd/dvd-drives.
(NeroImageDrive).
I also deactivated it, but didn't work...

I only have Nero 6, nothing more (burning software).

Greets

Joe Forster/STA 21-03-2006 10:44

See a list of a few of them in the FAQ.

Dr. Killer 22-03-2006 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightmare85
I haven't AnyDVD.
Which other programs should be closed, too?
I have also other virtual cd/dvd-drives.
(NeroImageDrive).
I also deactivated it, but didn't work...

I only have Nero 6, nothing more (burning software).

Greets


Uninstall any slysoft programs and other virtual drive programs. Use Daemon 4.
The error doesn't look like a drive error. It look if you have a illegal cd key.

Nightmare 22-03-2006 10:40

?
 
?

Which error?
You mean the problem that I need to unplug all drives?

LOL illegal cd-key! :D

My friend, the message is: "Please insert the disc into another drive" or something. I think you got a wrong point ;)

And if the cd-key would be illegal, why should it run with unpluged CD/DVD-Drives? (i've no idea about things like that.)

Sorry, I cannot see your logic...

Greets

Nightmare 23-03-2006 08:50

I asked the seller.
Here my e-mail and the reply (Sorry, German only and I am too boring to translate now :D ;))

Quote:

Originally Posted by My question
Hallo,

ich bin an diesem Produkt sehr interessiert.
Jedoch hauptsächlich um PC-Spiele, die mit dem Kopierschutz "StarForce" geschützt sind, problemlos spielen zu können.

Dieser Kopierschutz überprüft ja bekanntlich alle IDE-Kanäle.
Bei der USB-Methode entfällt diese Möglichkeit ja schon mal.

Um jetzt so ein Spiel starten zu können, muss ich meinen DVD-Brenner abklemmen. Und das mach ich nur ungern! Daher will ich Ihr Produkt erwerben.

Können Sie mir evt. genauere Informationen zu diesem Thema geben?
Vielleicht haben Sie es ja selbst schon mit einigen Spielen getestet.

Danke im Voraus!

Gruß Konstantin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Answer
hallo,
leider hat die Starforce die Eingang vom Usb-Gehaeuse gesperrt, d.h ab Starforce vision 3.7 kann man nicht mit usb cd-rom/DVD-rom spielen.

MFG

Xu,dan

Greets

Grumpy 23-03-2006 09:48

@Nightmare85
Dont be lazy! Translate it to English as Fileforums is an English only forum!!
You know better than that! I should just delete it! :rolleyes:

Joe Forster/STA 23-03-2006 09:55

The answer said that this game, protected with Starforce 3.7, cannot be played from USB CD/DVD drives. Not much more to translate. ;)

Nightmare 23-03-2006 13:16

Hehe, right :D :D

But next time, I will translate.

P.S. I hadn't time to translate this here (No time+lazy :D) ;)

Greets

adbailey 29-03-2006 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by john486496
Bypassing new starforce 3.x games without using SFnightmare or unplugging drives.


Test by Roms6 - 12/07/2005 Translated by French Lover.



This method should be right for all games protected by starforce 3.x without the need to use SF Nightmare or unplug your CD/DVD drives.

You need :

• The right image of your game, I don't give you advices, as settings in Alcohol120% to create your image file vary for each game ;

• VirtualDrive Pro 10, which will hide your drives safely and perfectly.

• Daemon Tools 4.


VirtualDrive Pro 10 installation


Run VirtualDrive Pro, it should take a long time to install, as it copy his own drivers.

By default, VirtualDrive Pro will be installed in C:\Program Files\FarSton\VDPro.

VirtualDrivePro will ask you to install at least one drive. Note you can change the number of drives after installation.
Once it's finished, please reboot your computer as it said.


Using VirtualDrive pro


Before using your image with Daemon Tools 4, you have to set your software.

• Right Click to VirtualDrive Pro icon on systeme tray , then click on « VCD Manager ».

• In the new windows go to « Tools » then click on « Disable CD ». Quit VirtualDrive Pro ;

• Mount image of your game protected by starforce in Daemon Tools 4. Note that all emulation must be set to off .

• Run your game from a desktop shortcut. Be patient!


Re-enabling your drive


You can do this by coming back to "Tools" , then click on "Enable CD"
If your CD/DVD drives are not re-enabled, try this:
• Go to control Panel, then System.
• In new windows, go to Hardware tab, click on device manager
• In DVD/CD ROM Drives section, right-click on your drive and select "activate"
Reboot to find again your drive in explorer.


GAMES SHOULD WORK (NEED TEStERS!) with VDPRO10:

- Worms 4 Mayhem (incl. Update-Patch,Nforce Chipset)
- Prince Of Persia - The Two Thrones (NforceChipset)
- Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (Nforce,ULI chipsets)
- Trackmania Sunrise (incl. eXtreme Add-On/Patch) (Nforce ,ULI chipsets)
-The Suffering Ties That Bind (ULI chipsets)
-PJ King Kong (Nforce, ULI chipsets)



-->:D Big Thanks to !HaGaR! , XdaywalkerX to submit their result :D <--

This worked perfectly for me, thank you!!! IDE devices are disabled/enabled no problem and the games run fine, including TOCA 3!!!!

bigal55 31-03-2006 11:36

starforce bypass
 
use a usb caddy or what i use is a hard drive caddy,cheaper, dismantle it and connect the internals to your cd/dvd drive run the usb lead outside your box and u can connect it at will, not been beaten yet.

Zulu 01-04-2006 08:20

@adbailey
When having a nForce/ULi based MoBo SFNightmare also works for SF 3.5+
I'd prefer SFNightmare, it's free and has no installer. What chipset do you have ? Also nForce or ULi ?

toshea68 02-04-2006 05:51

Virtual Drive Pro 10
 
Virtual Drive Pro 10 actually works and get's around the starforce crap protection! Cheers buddy you've my gameplay interesting again.:D

Zulu 02-04-2006 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by toshea68
Virtual Drive Pro 10 actually works and get's around the starforce crap protection! Cheers buddy you've my gameplay interesting again.:D

Next one, same question: What chipset does your MoBo have ?

dsac23 03-04-2006 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy
@m_malyszko

Read the forum rules!!

Have you actually tried putting your hand in your pocket, to get some cash, then going to the game store to purchase the game legally!!!!

Bye Bye your are now banned for a month! This should give you enough time to purchase the game, legally!!

Hi.

I too think that people must pay for their games, because i do it, but why cant we make a backup of our bought games so we can protect the original CD?

This seems to be the problem for example of Toca Race Driver 3...

Grumpy 03-04-2006 10:14

@dsac23
Quote:

but why cant we make a backup of our bought games so we can protect the original CD?
Well if it was up to me I would say "yeh sure go ahead" ;)

But unfortunately for you it is not up to me!
Complain to the game publishers, even better just boycott all games protected with starforce. ;)

dsac23 03-04-2006 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy
@dsac23
Complain to the game publishers, even better just boycott all games protected with starforce. ;)

That would work if they listen our complaints, but they only want to "protect" their business at all cost.:)

Now, micro$oft aplicattions are one of the most wanted by pirates, and still Micro$oft has great profits... do you know how much it costs Toca Race Driver 3 in Portugal? nearly €60... if they had lower prices would sell more and have less or none pirated software...:)

satanWest 25-04-2006 09:30

Simplest solution
 
I am sure this must have been the first step taken for killing SF but then .. For me anyway.. i simply had to disable the drives from windows device manager. Game started and worked. :) - Tested game : Cold War

Joe Forster/STA 26-04-2006 07:21

@satanWest: And the chipset on your motherboard is?

toshea68 01-05-2006 07:12

Chipset
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zulu
Next one, same question: What chipset does your MoBo have ?

If you take a look at my list you'll see my setup!:)

Zulu 01-05-2006 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by toshea68
If you take a look at my list you'll see my setup!:)

At that time it wasn't in your sig ;)

NForce 4, so i guess SFNightmare would also be suitable for SF 3.5+

daniel_pt 06-05-2006 04:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by john486496
Bypassing new starforce 3.x games without using SFnightmare or unplugging drives.


Test by Roms6 - 12/07/2005 Translated by French Lover.



This method should be right for all games protected by starforce 3.x without the need to use SF Nightmare or unplug your CD/DVD drives.

You need :

• The right image of your game, I don't give you advices, as settings in Alcohol120% to create your image file vary for each game ;

• VirtualDrive Pro 10, which will hide your drives safely and perfectly.

• Daemon Tools 4.


VirtualDrive Pro 10 installation


Run VirtualDrive Pro, it should take a long time to install, as it copy his own drivers.

By default, VirtualDrive Pro will be installed in C:\Program Files\FarSton\VDPro.

VirtualDrivePro will ask you to install at least one drive. Note you can change the number of drives after installation.
Once it's finished, please reboot your computer as it said.


Using VirtualDrive pro


Before using your image with Daemon Tools 4, you have to set your software.

• Right Click to VirtualDrive Pro icon on systeme tray , then click on « VCD Manager ».

• In the new windows go to « Tools » then click on « Disable CD ». Quit VirtualDrive Pro ;

• Mount image of your game protected by starforce in Daemon Tools 4. Note that all emulation must be set to off .

• Run your game from a desktop shortcut. Be patient!


Re-enabling your drive


You can do this by coming back to "Tools" , then click on "Enable CD"
If your CD/DVD drives are not re-enabled, try this:
• Go to control Panel, then System.
• In new windows, go to Hardware tab, click on device manager
• In DVD/CD ROM Drives section, right-click on your drive and select "activate"
Reboot to find again your drive in explorer.


GAMES SHOULD WORK (NEED TEStERS!) with VDPRO10:

- Worms 4 Mayhem (incl. Update-Patch,Nforce Chipset)
- Prince Of Persia - The Two Thrones (NforceChipset)
- Splinter Cell Chaos Theory (Nforce,ULI chipsets)
- Trackmania Sunrise (incl. eXtreme Add-On/Patch) (Nforce ,ULI chipsets)
-The Suffering Ties That Bind (ULI chipsets)
-PJ King Kong (Nforce, ULI chipsets)



-->:D Big Thanks to !HaGaR! , XdaywalkerX to submit their result :D <--


well, unfortunely, this procedure doesn't work for me... :mad:

I am a bit suspicious of my dvd image, because, and now a bit off topic, when i'm installing TOCA 3, I get to that part of the installation when near of the end another installation bar pops up showing 1/43, it stalls @ 20/43 saying that the RD3_AntiNonReversingDeUnSquishifimicateriser.exe stopped answer... I don't really know what that program is, but after closing that .exe, the man installation bar proceeds until the end.

Can you point me some direction, where I can clear this issues of mine, please? thanks... :)

LoedD 06-05-2006 07:30

Don't work for me too.
I guess U need a nForce 4 board but the BIOS hack from another thread works perfectly.

n1link 01-06-2006 00:26

or after all this you could just download the unintstall which they have now been forced to release and correct because some of the games they distributed SF with did not mention the fact that it would install SF to your computer. Horay a happy day for gamers that had their Drives f****d up by starforce. Search starforce on google and go to their official site to get the updated version of the remover. this time it works

Grumpy 01-06-2006 02:21

@n1link
You should really do a search of these forums before writing something which has been mentioned here months ago!
Also do you realize that if you uninstall the Starforce drivers, using the removal tool, then when going to play that particular game again it will re-install the Starforce drivers. (Unless you of course use a crack!) ;)

erchamion92 11-06-2006 03:18

leave those cables alone!
 
Starforce and Starfuck my arse!!!

I own several titles protected by Starforce and prefer not to have to insert my disks everytime I wish to play one of them. Games are expensive and as a collector I want mine to reamain in pristine condition. Why is everyone pulling their damn IDE cables though? There's a much easier way to resolve the issue which is plainly obvious and I'm amazed I can't find a reference to it anywhere else on the web despite hours of searching.

I just want to make sure it works on a couple of differently specced machines and I will post results here and every other relevant forum I've come across.

Joe Forster/STA 12-06-2006 01:51

Oh, yes, please, please, please, send us any useful and confirmed (!) information on making Starforce-protected games work without the CD/DVD; I'd be more than happy to add them to the FAQ! :)

TeTTiweTTi 18-07-2006 13:17

only works for one game
 
Hi guys,

I tested
trackmania sunrise
pacman world 3
toca race driver 3 (DTM 3)

i can only bypass the SF protection of tracmania sunrise. I don't know why such a stupid game has such a stong proctection.
Mayby the other games have a newer version of SF, but i can't find anywhere which game has which SF protection.


*edit*

pacman world 3 and dtm 3 are games on dvd's. they are'nt working with an image. Is there hope for games on dvd's?

Kavel 19-07-2006 16:36

Add X3:Reunion / 1.4.02 patch in nForce.

Ty

thief7710 29-08-2006 12:49

i just managed to start Prince Of persia T2T.Just listen
Make an image with Alcochol 120%
Mount it in a virtual with Daemon tools
And then ladies and gentlemen just leave your DVD rom with its tray open
and click to play the game
when the game begins close the tray
it worked on my Sony Vaio FE11S
hope it works with you too!

qrpiech 29-08-2006 15:16

any1 tried this? seems too simple but worth a try...

TippeX 29-08-2006 17:16

You can do this by coming back to "Tools" , then click on "Enable CD"
If your CD/DVD drives are not re-enabled, try this:
• Go to control Panel, then System.
• In new windows, go to Hardware tab, click on device manager
• In DVD/CD ROM Drives section, right-click on your drive and select "activate"
Reboot to find again your drive in explorer.


blah blah blah

all virtual thingie does is the exact opposite of that, so theres little point installing it at all... 10+mb for what, 4 clicks...

and its relative to the starforce driver version, they can definately detect this now.. so its probably a redundant 'trick'

innocent rookie 29-10-2006 01:40

afraid
 
hi guys(or hackers):p . I have colin mcrae rally 2005. It also uses starforce protection. I was thinking that is it necessary to mess around with CD/DVD drives etc. Can i override starforce by simply doing some modifications to "protection.dll" in the game directory. is there no way out other than cloaking my CD/DVD drive.:confused:

TippeX 29-10-2006 02:52

yup u could modify protect.dll if you were (1) skilled, (2) lucky, course then you also have the drivers to modify too, considering the cdcheck is done by the drivers (ring 0)..


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