Because he wants to run a business!

I have done ASM tuts which are in the coders section of this forum for a few years now, and some people have learned from it and grew from it. Others realise they are either..

1. too dumb

2. no patience

3. cannot grasp the basics of ASM

So they give up.

So for CH to release open source is not beneficial to anyone who doesnt want to learn, infact that statement is kind of silly.

Just because you disagree with something does not make the statement silly.

It all depends on the quality of the tutorial and what skill level the reader has beforehand. I still believe that a reader who has access to both tutorials and a rich environment of source code will be able to more easily discover implementations and methods of doing trainers.

Have not read any tutorials on this forum, but from other forums I would say that some of them have been somewhat lacking for me to get a clear understanding of them... or written "hastily" so they are only usefull to a very limited number of people who have the patience to read Ghetto-speak or are already familiar with the material being discussed.

I am sure CH would still make money even if they opensourced their trainers. As they are the biggest and most organized cheat site on the internets, and most people will not code a trainer even if they are given the source. The only risk that could happen is that people who copy trainers and present them as their own work would have an easier job at it. But giving them the full source would perhaps give them enough information so they would be able to make their own trainers, or interest them in such.

Additionally, from other 'scenes' the objective has always to be FIRST (and sometimes with QUALITY). If someone copies a low option trainer and release it much later, what loss is there in terms of creds..

I'd think that anyone who is a user here are not downloading trainers from CH (because of the membership stuff) and CH users hardly visit GCW because it is part of another 'internet' (i.e. the non subscription based one...)

sorry, cheat happens making their source code open source would be pointless.. simply for the factors dab mentioned.. most people read tutorials, think they can do everything and fall flat on their faces... laziness factor...

now, if you want to learn how to code trainers ,go do some research on asm code, win32 api and search the net, then play with your own code, if you've got problems then ask but by no means expect to be spoonfed...

your ignorance really has no boundaries does it...

I just have to say a big NO to that.

If you cant follow some tutorials out there then you would never understand period.

It also depends of course on the level of the tutorial, only knowing a smattering (basic knowledge) of ASM and jumping into something like injecting your own DLL's etc then it will go way over your head.

Looking at source code will not help you understand the ideas or knowledge behind what your looking at, only how in lamens terms that particular source will work, so in a way your only learning in the region of 5-10% of what you should know to fully understand.

I can tell you GCW is talked alot at CH, people sending people here to get cracks for games and so forth, so im assuming quite a handful of CH paid customers actually may come here, perhaps not to the forum but to GCW anyway.

Anyways, In short, if you wanna learn what there is to learn, then Learn it dont as TippeX said be spoonfed the information as that will not learn you anything.

Agreed. However, it's up to the author to decide under what license his or her software is released. As I wrote already, I'm also for free software, therefore my upcoming GNU-style utilities will also be released along with full source: I've had lots of struggles and lots of fun creating them and now I'm giving them back to the global community that I gleaned examples from. I have a job and I don't need to make money from my hobby programs. But, again, this was my choice.

Also agreed. Free (as in "free beer") software is orthogonal to free (as in "free speech", aka open-source) software. Most users know shit about coding, they might not even be able to compile the published source.

Many programmers hate to write documentation or even comment their source, with the attitude "if you don't understand it yourself, you're no worth of making use of it anyway". This is, actually, sad as there are lots of people whose lack of talent is contrasted by a strong will to learn. Help them and they will also become good programmers - although not as flexible as truly talented ones -: you know, the "work horses" working under the supervision of someone with greater knowledge and freeing this boss of theirs from having to do simple jobs, ones that are "below" his talent. There's definitely a need for such people, too!

What Joe says is true, but Joe forgets we are talking about trainers and not applications :)

to the person who wrote:

"If I am not mistaken, the CH content that appears on GCW are the 1 MB large "PROMO" trainers with +1 option? Hardly a loss if you ask me. "

You don't get it. it's not the Promos, it's the FULL TRAINERS once they are released to the public for free several weeks after the members get them first. The Promos worked as a way for users who might want the trainer early to sign up with us OR they can see what the FULL TRAINER will have when it's free in several weeks-

We posted like 40 or 50 FULL WORKING trainers a month here, not just the Promos, LOL-

best,
Cal

To make things clear: I am totally against people taking/stealing code (any kind) from other people. Files from people using stolen code will not be posted @ GCW

Until now I NEVER received ANY concrete proof from the people claiming that KelSat (and h4x0r for that matter) are/were "stealing" code from any available trainers. Just making accusations that someone is doing anything is NO PROOF AT ALL for me! Therefor the files from KelSat were posted (until now that is)

I have been contacted by 2 persons last November who were claiming that KelSat was "stealing" their code, but my first impression was that at least one of them was "protecting" his own interest (obviously, nothing wrong with it, if you are thinking commercially)

I have asked KelSat directly if he was taking code from any available trainer (including the CH ones) and he was quite convincing in telling me that he was not doing so. Who to believe. I know better now...

As for h4x0r, this is the first time that I am reading that he is also taking code from existing trainers but again no proof...

Here are the email communications:

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Sent: 10-11-2008
From: Chris/CH
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http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=312605

Some others that also realize KelSat is ripping off people’s trainers and submitting them as his own. ************* and a couple others have agreed to stop hosting his work. I wish you would consider the same.

================================================== ==================================================
Sent: 13-11-2008
To: Chris/CH
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My first reaction was to leave it be as I did not think KelSat was doing this but now Psych email me with the same thing

I have confronted KelSat with the accusations and have received a few emails from him in which he states that he has never taken code from the CH trainers

The way he is writing I tend to believe him

Most likely you are seeing similar options on both your trainers but I doubt they use the same code!

So is it possible we are accusing someone over something that is not true?

Anyway if he is lying then he is good at it and I think he won't try it again...

But keep in mind that reverse-engineering code is not illegal, I do not know if actual code was used or just the options. If it is true it is an ethical issue

And getting ripped off is a fact of live, I have to live with rippers like ************* who was a mirror site of GCW until he decided to duplicate my work (file, html: colors, table-setup, even the font he is using is the same as mine...)
I have accepted this and do not ask others not to upload their files to him... or should I ?!? It's the same thing...

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Sent: 13-11-2008
From: Psych
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To whom it may concern, regarding gametrainers uploads.

Recently there has been several incidents of 'ripped' work, specifically
certain individuals taking it upon themselves to copy other
peoples' work and release it as their own. At present this issue, to my
knowledge, has only affected the work of CheatHappens.com, and I believe
they have already contacted you themselves about this issue.

However, we have reason to believe that it is not only their work which is
being affected, and its only a matter of time before we find out what other
work is being targetted. I can fully appreciate that it is impossible for
you to know this is going on, and you are only uploading submissions.

We can make a start however at preventing these incidents,
with your cooperation. The one individual we know about goes by the
name of 'Kelsat'. His releases always follow up to other major releases by
cheathappens within a day or so of them becoming available. We have both
analysed these trainers in detail and find them to be almost exact copies
of the work.

For now, it would be greatly appreciated if you could
remove all current submissions of Kelsat and prevent any
further additions from him. He is a ripper. Suppose these weren't just game
trainers that poke to memory, suppose they were software utilites.
Freeware or paid software it makes no different, its all the same principle. I
certainly wouldn't want to see these sorts of individuals get away with
this if they directed their attention to my own work. I can completely
understand the current predicament of cheathappens, and I concur with their
suggestion of contacting yourselves to request this.

Thanks for your time. Any consideration much appreciated!

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Sent: 13-11-2008
To: Psych
================================================== ==================================================

I have received a few emails from KelSat in which he states that he has never taken code from the CH trainers

The way he is writing I tend to believe him

Most likely Chris is seeing similar options on both their trainers but I doubt they use the same code!

So is it possible we are accusing someone over something that is not true?

Anyway if he is lying then he is good at it ;) and I think he won't try it again...

================================================== ==================================================
Sent: 13-11-2008
From: Chris/CH
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Ripped us again. Option for option down the exact byte. Not sure why you continue to take his side.

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Sent: 14-11-2008
From: KelSat
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I don't want the enemy. I just want to share my trainer with my skill.

Thought my skill of making trainer is not well, I can swear to god that I can make it by myself.

Like this Tomb Raider Trainer.

Why do I must copy code from CH if I have the ability?

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Sent: 14-11-2008
From: KelSat
================================================== ==================================================

I can swear to god I don't copy the code from their trainer.

It's all my trainer By myself.

You can see the trainer of Tomb_Raider_Underworld_V1.0_Demo_Plus_9_Trainer_By _KelSat

and see this web site http://www.cheathappens.com/show_bla...?titleID=13858

there is no trainer of this game in CH.

This can prove I can make the trainer by myself.

Maybe they think my trainer is cutting their client and income.

================================================== ==================================================
Sent: 14-11-2008
From: KelSat
================================================== ==================================================

Ok, let's see another trainer from

Dead Space - Mega Trainer (U.S./English)

Features: Unlimited Hull Integrity, No Turret Overheating, Unlimited Oxygen, Unlimited Health, Unlimited Ammo, Duplicate Inventory, Add Credits, Add Upgrade Nodes, Unlimited Stasis, Save/Load Position (Teleport).

and My Trainer:
Dead Space V1.0 Plus 10 Trainer By KelSat

Shift+G - Unlimited Life
Shift+H - Unlimited Ammo
Shift+T - Unlimited Stasis
Shift+Y - Unlimited Credits
Shift+N - Unlimited Nodes
Shift+V - Unlimited Items
Shift+K - One Hit Kill
Shift+O - Save Position
Shift+P - Teleport
Shift+U - Undo Teleport

Why do I have only copied some functions from ch if i copy the trainer?

and where is the function "one hit kill" in trainer of ch?

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As you can read they are just ACCUSATIONS and nothing more, no proof nothing...

Also some people think there is some exclusivity in the files posted @ GCW, I can tell you THERE IS NONE, all kinds of trainers will be posted I do not really care if it is professionally done or done my an amateur, even a +1 PROMO Trainer is a trainer for me! It has also nothing to do with quality over quantity as everything is posted... If a trainer works then great if it does not then so be it and try another trainer.

If people are thinking that a boycott (or any other crap) will make me think differently than think again, IT WILL NOT (don't make me laugh)

The only thing that will make me think differently is providing PROOF someone is stealing code

People like KelSat will always exist, if he stops releasing his trainer thru his own website then someone else will be doing so. IT IS A FACT OF LIFE, learn to live with it!

For now KelSat's trainers will not be posted anymore as he lied to me about stealing the code

@PWizard: Maybe i did not make it clear in my reply, the information in this thread has convinced me that KelSat is ripping code and I wanted to make it clear that UNTIL this tread nothing concrete was ever given

For now KelSat's trainers will not be posted as he lied to me about stealing the code

OMG .. this ridiculous, bickering about code . im new here in forum , but i have been using gamecopyworld for longest im 35 years old and all you acting like bunch crying brats .
empire all respect to you and this place but my friend must say if you don't allow kelsat trainers to be posted then you might as well shut down all trainer section or shut down site . because all you doing is allowing cheatheaven to monopolize all game trainers . no longer will be no free trainers . in order to enjoy a game to fullist you got pay for a trainer... eh? missing something here .. already spend anywhere from 25 to 40 dollars on the game but then if i wanted a little more power i would have to go pay some website for a game trainer no not my style .

claims and accusation are all thats happening here . if you want to stop his trainers from being posted here im sure this will be a set back for all . not to mention from what i seen 90 % of the trainers posted are complements of kelsat and few others who SEEK NO PROFIT in doing what they do, unlike ch.

sorry but after reading all this i must say this topic should have been locked before it got any futher past page 1.

i have been to your site and was disapointed i been looking for a trainer that coincided with a game im very fond of stormrise. but when i saw you had one with limted option and had to purchase a full membership just to get it . that turned me off from your site, sorry.

I know that posting CH PROMO's could be seen as supporting CH but as I told before ANY kind of trainer is a trainer for me, even a +1 option

I understand that CH is making money of trainers but they also have to pay the bills (hosting, people, etc). Their model is asking money for software, what is so strange about that! Just because trainers were free does not mean that they are wrong asking for money now.

You can disagree about this but if someone puts time into this (for some options it took al lot) why not ask something in return?

so whats wrong with people remaking free trainers? then if there is nothing wrong with making profit off trainers?

I couldn't say I got any wiser in this matter, even after the last few posts... TippeX, would you compare a pair of suspiciously identical trainers, please?

Remaking is fine, rereleasing is not.

simple, 99.9% of them all use WriteProcessMemory to patch in the trainer code...
so we could have a tool (i guess i could make it if needed) which 'caught' the api call, and outputed what it would write, the size, and the location

we do this on both trainers, and analyse the code that would be injected...
we then compare it (taking rva's into account) and look for similar or identical byte patterns, which gives us a very early indication to the uniqueness of them (or otherwise)

well well. here we are :)

My humble opinion is that i cant effing stand people who steal options ..i have had it happen to me in the past (yes..you know who you are) but what can you do?..indeed i have had fuckwits even accuse moi of ripping options..now come on anyone with half a head and a loaf of bread and who really knows me, knows i dont have to steal anyones options
i agree with the majority here that trainers should not have their files hosted until it can be safely proven its their own work but on the other hand just because cali and chris release a trainer with 5 options and the same day somebody else releases a trainer with equal options, why should it be labeled a ch rip? and as for some code areas ..come on we are all a little lazy and if 1 area of code does the job why go looking for a rare areas and especially concerning the ammo etc
i wont defend a trainer ripper ever, but why should one website dictate another?
it almost reads like cheathappens are saying that gcw would actually be hurt (hits wise, financially?) if cheathappens stops sending the 'promo' trainers or full after their release date, but what would stop anyone harvesting them (once ch has sent them to any other website)? as for 'promo'trainers, well they benefit the maker more than the host, i know this because i was the first(probably) person to make 'promo' trainers, a little respect for trainer makers goes a long way and lets hope that cheathappens screaming thief everytime a trainer is == to one of theirs won't put off the fledgling makers out there.
have they got the right to scream when somebody clones a trainer made by them?, if they can 100% prove it , then they sure have
but dictating what other site owners can do with their own site is over the top even if i do agree with banning kelsat's trainers for ripping
Now as for paying trainers..hmmm iam all for it!! and why not? i used to have this arguement with probably the same arseholes about the same reasons.
anyone who is anyone knows some pretty long hours go into making a trainer and even more into making a great trainer so why not expect reward for it whether its simply recognition or payment
plus it makes the competition stiffer and ecourages the free trainer makers to go beyond the norm and 'man-up' their own work so its a win -win situation for the enduser

Luckily your not a mod, im 35 and calling me a crying brat without looking at what I know or have done makes you look stupid.

And what your brattish mind cant comprehend is Trainers take time to make, finding coding to manipulate can be quick but normally it takes a long time.

So like ive said before if Caliber wants to work for a bit of money when he is writing numerous trainers a week or updating trainers for new game updates, then that is his choice. Not yours.

This world doesnt revolve around people like yourself who think they deserve free trainers every bloody day, you probably dont even buy your games either. So instead of coming in here blowing your big horn because the possibility that you wont get all those free trainers you desire will slowly dwindle, go and get a life or something.

I cant be bothered talking to you anymore infact.

Hey patchster :)

I think I found your Enter button :P heheeh nahh im joking, I know your more than capable, and I agree this could have been handled better.

I agree perhaps nop'ing out a sub or add op same as both trainers should not be suspicious, but kelsat has used options with flaws in the coding that were deliberate and he copied the whole damn code.

I say we blame Sunbeam and his "How to update trainers" tutorial from a few years back, perhaps if tuts like that were not around maybe some of these numbnuts wouldnt know what they could do with olly.

heya Dabs :) patchster..havent been called that for a long time ..ahh the good old days lmfao

Knowledge is power , so they say. but i think hindsight is a greater force

DABhand it's good thing your not mod either. because now i can just ignore your post regarding me as irrelevant trash post. all these post resolve around people expressing there opinions so i figure i express my own. this reason why i don't go to forum much anymore because there always some ass who thinks just because he got some dam high post count he can trash new members

And you're both lucky I'm a patient mod... ;) Seriously, stop it and concentrate on making up constructive ideas to solve the problem described in this thread instead.

I know what Joe said... But look at it this way, your the one who came flaunting in and declared everyone "crying brats" now you had a taste of your own medicine your gonna cry.

Jeez louise, yes this thread is defo not for you :P

Yes expressing your opinion is good, but you dont know how to do that and think attacking others is expressing your opinion, guess what it doesnt lol

we didn't make a promo for stormrise because we could only create TWO options for this game. those 'limited' options took me the best of 8 hours to create.

FIRST- this game is DX-10 ONLY, which limits the OS that a trainer maker has to have to be able to just RUN the game.

SECOND - the fact that it is VISTA also affects the TOOLS we can use and this game crashes when breakpointed with a debugger (even with PLUGS)

THIRD - this game uses LUA scripting to perform all of it's decision making and variable updating. What does this mean? This means that ALL variables and data are routed through TWO code locations ONLY. THOUSANDS of variables run through these code sections every couple milliseconds. Divining out the HEALTH or POWER or whatever of the PLAYER ONLY vs. the thousands of other variables running through that code section is a nightmare. If you've never made a trainer then you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

why am i going into all of this? basically you won't see any other trainers other than OURS for this game, because nobody is going to screw with this game for 8 hours, dealing with crashes and dead ends over and over trying to make options for a VISTA only game. i don't often try to boost myself like this, but this trainer is a F'ing accomplishment. we have way too much other work for me to try and put 8 to 12 more hours into this mildly popular game just so i can *maybe* find a way to do more options.

Those two options are quite powerful, by the way, and took alot of creative thinking, skill, and home-made tools I programmed myself to accomplish.

So i take exception to you putting down our 'limited' trainer and I will go out on a limb and say that I doubt we see any other trainers for that game (unless someone looks at my code and tries to copy it). There's good reasons why some trainers have limited options. That doesn't mean they didn't take skill and alot of work to create them-

good luck finding another trainer for that game. By the way, a subscription to our site enables you to download ALL the members only trainers, but you know that already...

best,
Cal

You don't pay for this or that trainer; you pay the creators for coding stuff all the time and then get all trainers for free. See how different it is from another point of view? ;)

Yeah, my grandma - if she was still living - might have wanted whatever operating system and applications only to read/write simple documents and E-mails and surf the Web. For that purpose, Windows and M$ Office would be way too expensive. However, if she had bought them for the heck of it, she might have found out that they offer a lot more than she had thought of. So they may turn out to be a good purchase, after all.

OMFG! :rolleyes: what are you like lol , your way too paranoid
anyway was not the end means of this thread to seek a resolve for cheathappens problem of people allegedly ripping certain trainers? how about requiring members legit home address and isp base? dna fingerprints and first born child as collateral or not releasing ANY full trainers to the public domain then i guess u have some kind of software legal protection??? or maybe more legal clout but then again proving somebody is stealing code would be difficult i guess
besides from what i have read on here(this thread) caliber, ch is doing better then ever? so is this 'stealing' really damaging your site? or is this and other similar thread giving cheathappens.com unprecedented free publicity
Now chris iam not deflaming cheathappens btw :) i have actually been in the same dilemma and i couldnt think of a solution

Hmmm, fingerprints are well possible in a software...

If you have a strong secondary PC and lots of space on your web server, you could create user-specific versions of all downloads. In a very simplified version, you hide a redundant "MOV EAX, user_id" in a well-defined place of the code - I mean, 1) assemble "MOV EAX, 0" into the common version, 2) patch into it the user_id for each user-specific version and 3) compress/encrypt only afterwards. If your web server is strong and you don't have that many downloads, it could be done on-the-fly by the web server instead.

Then, if you see your code being ripped off and that code contains the hidden fingerprint, you'll be able to find out which user on your site stole it (or leaked it to the thief). This assumes, of course, that A) the thief is not smart enough to find the fingerprint and/or B) the ripped off code is sophisticated enough for such a fingerprint to stay well hidden in it (it does not become obvious that that particular instruction is not needed for the functionality) and C) the thief does not have access to two (or more) user-specific versions that - after decompression and decrypting - only differ in the fingerprint.

Wanna attend a polymorphic virus coding course? :p

[...] Or another simple example, taken from SecuROM. Whenever using constants, use "MOV EAX, (value XOR user_id XOR random_value); XOR EAX, (user_id XOR random_value)" instead of a plain "MOV EAX, value". Because of the randomness of the actual values, the user_id won't be seen anywhere "naked" but you, the author knowing the random_value for at least one such tricky assignment, can easily find out. Yes, this can be unwinded, but, when sophisticated enough, only with lots of struggles and "visual debugging" (watch the code in a disassembler and find out in your head what it does) becomes extremely annoying, too.

i just see:

- another nice PR action from shithappens.

kelsat maybe rip trainer options, that suxx true. But he had some(really rare) good moments too. see his hawx trainer.

i dont like that they (CH) claim be a seriuos business, but on the same breath they spread their promo trainers on webpages which hold , in most countries in the world, 'illegal' content (g_bw,gcw etc.).

if gcw ban kelsat trainer then they should ban the promo trainers too. nothing against the full trainer from shithappens, i think is promo enuff.
i love gcw coz they hold quality stuff, and not crippled things!

Best Regards

Self.fish

That whole post you made needs a slap into reality.

And its like a 12 year old on his mobile wrote the whole thing.

But the Best Regards kinda makes it easier to figure out who wrote it :P

the point of this thread was to describe an intolerable situation where a site that we partner with is hosting content that uses stolen code locations / solutions from our work at CH. we were giving a head's up as to why we choose not to partner with GCW any longer due to this situation. it's not really a problem for us so much as it is a problem for GCW who is chosing to host content that has been ripped from our trainers, which in turn we cannot support them by sending more of our trainers (not just the PROMOS, people!) for them to post here. so they can now host the few kelsat, unsupported WAREZ trainer versions (which are mostly copies of our CH trainers) instead of our 40 or more trainers that we sent here each month (not uncluding the PROMOS). it's that simple-

Good job admins, you can bend all the way, now there is no reason to get trainers from GCW, just go to CH and skip the middleman.

BTW Youtube, google, myspace and a gazzilion other pages all are free, all have tons of people working day and night on them. CH is pathetic.

You are pathetic. You just got your panties in a bunch because the guy uploads and offers his trainers for free. Cheathappens.com is nothing but a ripoff. You people use illegally downloaded games to make your trainers.
You have already several trainers out for games that aren't even out yet. You are a bunch of hypocrites! The Godfather 2 isn't even out yet but somehow you managed to release a trainer for the full game. Keep your piss poor excuses to yourself. Anybody gullible enough to pay a subscription to a bunch of pirating pricks is a fucking moron. I have reported you to EA and their affiliates for modifying their games files and charging for it.
It just a matter of time till you get shut down.

Ch says: "We've been in this industry for over 60 years so we've had quite a bit of time to build relationships. We get games for free weeks before the premiere, because EA loves us." or smth along those lines.

That's a weird excuse since magically their trainer works with the scene's crack.

well if they do make such a statement then its quite easy to find out.. because there is something interesting about the godfather 2 release....

Wow what an Idiot, do you charge your boss for working?

Yes welcome to real life.

If Caliber sits for hours and hours searching the coding of a game to bring people options to make a quality trainer and if he wants to work for someone who gives them out to paying customers, be it a yearly or lifetime subscription to access as many trainers as they want (during the year if yearly), and updated trainers for updated games, then so be it. Just like its your choice to volunteer your work to someone or make them pay for it. So who is the hypocrit now.

And mouthing off obscenities doesnt make you stronger or clever, it makes you look well less of a person. Its not illegal to make trainers and/or sell your own, so I think you should read up more on that side of the law as you have been reading the propaganda on gamefaqs again havent we, were the masses of warez users amass and complain and cry that quality trainers are not free of which they are all used to.

But if your going to complain and whine and swear, join the queue at gamefaqs im sure they will be happy to have you there.

As Pwiz said, thats how GF2 got out early as someone who works for a magazine etc leaked it.

No! I want to slap the broadband kiddies some more :\

Wow, triple post, how mature, you must be the king of the internets!

Why can't ch earn money from ads like everyone else on the internet?

Now this might be difficult for you to comprehend, but it was 3 seperate posts and not 1, all 3 are different responses.

Talking about mature, have you seen yourself lately go read what you wrote previously.

LMAO! You guys are obviously on a "ch is the bestest thing in the world" train, ignorant and blind behavior.

ripped again?
 

This is the record of hacking the wheelman.

You can see all routines I've found.

After finish searching all routines, i start to analyse the difference from
these routines and find the ture routine to inject the code (you can also
see some inject codes after routine code).

I don't know whether this is the evidence or not. But this is only the proof
i can give u.

I am just a trainer-maker, not a ripper.


time
004F0D4B F3:0F1087 FC000>movss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+FC]

004F0D63 F30F1187 FC000000 movss dword ptr [edi+FC], xmm0

004F0DC7 F3:0F1087 FC000>movss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+FC]

race time
0054CC3F F3:0F1083 E0020>movss xmm0, dword ptr [ebx+2E0]
0054CC64 F30F1183 E0020000 movss dword ptr [ebx+2E0], xmm0


0043C6A7 F3:0F1085 E0020>movss xmm0, dword ptr [ebp+2E0]





stamina
00506A92 F3:0F5847 64 addss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+64]

00506A97 F3:0F1147 64 movss dword ptr [edi+64], xmm0

00506A9C F3:0F1047 64 movss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+64]
//save esi address,ecx+2AC=life
0001FFB0 /EB 07 jmp short 0001FFB9
0001FFB2 |C747 64 0000C84>mov dword ptr [edi+64], 42C80000
0001FFB9 \EB 0A jmp short 0001FFC5
0001FFBB C781 AC020000 0>mov dword ptr [ecx+2AC], 270F
0001FFC5 F3:0F1047 64 movss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+64]
0001FFCA 890D F0FF0100 mov dword ptr [1FFF0], ecx
0001FFD0 C3 retn

EB 07 C7 47 64 00 00 C8 42 EB 0A C7 81 AC 02 00 00 0F 27 00 00 F3 0F 10 47
64 89 0D F0 FF 01 00C3

00506AC9 F3:0F1147 64 movss dword ptr [edi+64], xmm0

00506B40 F3:0F1047 64 movss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+64]

xyh
00A8C766 0F2800 movaps xmm0, dqword ptr [eax]

00A8CB77 0F2898 D0000000 movaps xmm3, dqword ptr [eax+D0]
//ecx-480= stamina.edi

00FCA0A4 0F2986 D0000000 movaps dqword ptr [esi+D0], xmm0
0102E2A1 0F2800 movaps xmm0, dqword ptr [eax]

00FC33C5 0F2986 D0000000 movaps dqword ptr [esi+D0], xmm0
00F94867 8B50 38 mov edx, dword ptr [eax+38]
00F3F147 0F2843 30 movaps xmm0, dqword ptr [ebx+30]
00FAA335 8B50 38 mov edx, dword ptr [eax+38]
00FCA108 0F2986 D0000000 movaps dqword ptr [esi+D0], xmm0

mov
00FCA0A4 0F2986 D0000000 movaps dqword ptr [esi+D0], xmm0
00FC33C5 0F2986 D0000000 movaps dqword ptr [esi+D0], xmm0
00FCA108 0F2986 D0000000 movaps dqword ptr [esi+D0], xmm0


0102E35C 8B11 mov edx, dword ptr [ecx]
0102EC12 8B01 mov eax, dword ptr [ecx]





life

005E6408 39B7 AC020000 cmp dword ptr [edi+2AC], esi //
0045A136 F3:0F2A86 AC020>cvtsi2ss xmm0, dword ptr [esi+2AC]


0052D689 8B8F AC020000 mov ecx, dword ptr [edi+2AC]
0053D905 8B93 AC020000 mov edx, dword ptr [ebx+2AC]

00AFDBD8 83BB AC020000 00 cmp dword ptr [ebx+2AC], 0 //all guy
0001FFB0 391D F0FF0100 cmp dword ptr [1FFF0], ebx
0001FFB6 74 0C je short 0001FFC4
0001FFB8 EB 0A jmp short 0001FFC4
0001FFBA C783 AC020000 00000000 mov dword ptr [ebx+2AC], 0
0001FFC4 83BB AC020000 00 cmp dword ptr [ebx+2AC], 0
0001FFCB C3 retn

39 1D F0 FF 01 00 74 0C EB 0A C7 83 AC 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 83 BB AC 02 00
00 00 C3



0053DD7A 8B83 AC020000 mov eax, dword ptr [ebx+2AC]
0052196B 83B8 AC020000 0>cmp dword ptr [eax+2AC], 0
005E6408 39B7 AC020000 cmp dword ptr [edi+2AC], esi

car life
004A05CF 398E AC020000 cmp dword ptr [esi+2AC], ecx
004A0F7F 83BE AC020000 0>cmp dword ptr [esi+2AC], 0 //all car
[esp+BC]=ebp+34

00496020 DB81 AC020000 fild dword ptr [ecx+2AC]
004A8F85 83BE AC020000 0>cmp dword ptr [esi+2AC], 0
004A28BD 399F AC020000 cmp dword ptr [edi+2AC], ebx

00A564A5 83BB AC020000 00 cmp dword ptr [ebx+2AC], 0
///
eax=0;
0001FFB0 83F8 00 cmp eax, 0
0001FFB3 75 0E jnz short 0001FFC3
0001FFB5 EB 18 jmp short 0001FFCF
0001FFB7 C783 AC020000 0F270000 mov dword ptr [ebx+2AC], 270F
0001FFC1 EB 0C jmp short 0001FFCF
0001FFC3 EB 0A jmp short 0001FFCF
0001FFC5 C783 AC020000 01000000 mov dword ptr [ebx+2AC], 01
0001FFCF 83BB AC020000 00 cmp dword ptr [ebx+2AC], 0
0001FFD6 C3 retn
83 F8 00 75 0E EB 18 C7 83 AC 02 00 00 0F 27 00 00 EB 0C EB 0A C7 83 AC 02
00 00 0A 00 00 00 83BB AC 02 00 00 00 C3



be damage
0087EA7A 2983 AC020000 sub dword ptr [ebx+2AC], eax onlyme

0048B727 399F AC020000 cmp dword ptr [edi+2AC], ebx
004A05CF 398E AC020000 cmp dword ptr [esi+2AC], ecx

0083014C 3B87 A8020000 cmp eax, dword ptr [edi+2A8]

008300C9 F3:0F1087 8C020>movss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+28C]
00989529 D99F A4020000 fstp dword ptr [edi+2A4]

wanted
005E6433 837B 54 00 cmp dword ptr [ebx+54], 0 ebx+5C float
1.0~5.0 ebx+58=0 no wanted (no wanted first)

005E6517 8B43 54 mov eax, dword ptr [ebx+54]
005E651A 85C0 test eax, eax
0001FFB0 /EB 0E jmp short 0001FFC0
0001FFB2 |C743 5C 0000C040 mov dword ptr [ebx+5C], 40C00000
0001FFB9 |C743 58 05000000 mov dword ptr [ebx+58], 5
0001FFC0 \EB 07 jmp short 0001FFC9
0001FFC2 C743 58 00000000 mov dword ptr [ebx+58], 0
0001FFC9 8B43 54 mov eax, dword ptr [ebx+54]
0001FFCC 85C0 test eax, eax
0001FFCE C3 retn

EB 0E C7 43 5C 00 00 C0 40 C7 43 58 05 00 00 00 EB 07 C7 43 58 00 00 00 00
8B 43 54 85 C0 C3



005E677E 837B 54 00 cmp dword ptr [ebx+54], 0
005E6807 8B43 54 mov eax, dword ptr [ebx+54]
005DE1D1 3970 54 cmp dword ptr [eax+54], esi

boost
00511AB1 F3:0F1040 5C movss xmm0, dword ptr [eax+5C]
0001FFB0 /EB 07 jmp short 0001FFB9
0001FFB2 |C740 5C 00009643 mov dword ptr [eax+5C], 43960000
0001FFB9 \F3:0F1040 5C movss xmm0, dword ptr [eax+5C]
0001FFBE C3 retn

EB 07 C7 40 5C 00 00 96 43 F3 0F 10 40 5C C3

00508714 F3:0F1040 5C movss xmm0, dword ptr [eax+5C]
0045FD99 F3:0F5847 5C addss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+5C]
0045FDC2 F3:0F1147 5C movss dword ptr [edi+5C], xmm0
0045FEA3 F3:0F1047 5C movss xmm0, dword ptr [edi+5C]


amoo

reload
004B8512 3981 F0020000 cmp dword ptr [ecx+2F0], eax

004B8536 8B81 F0020000 mov eax, dword ptr [ecx+2F0]

0001FFB0 /EB 0E jmp short 0001FFC0
0001FFB2 |50 push eax
0001FFB3 |8B81 F8020000 mov eax, dword ptr [ecx+2F8]
0001FFB9 |8981 F0020000 mov dword ptr [ecx+2F0], eax
0001FFBF |58 pop eax
0001FFC0 \EB 0A jmp short 0001FFCC
0001FFC2 C781 F4020000 E7030000 mov dword ptr [ecx+2F4], 3E7
0001FFCC 8B81 F0020000 mov eax, dword ptr [ecx+2F0]
0001FFD2 C3 retn

EB 0E 50 8B 81 F8 02 00 00 89 81 F0 02 00 00 58 EB 0A C7 81 F4 02 00 00 E7
03 00 00 8B 81 F0 0200 00 C3