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Grumpy 10-12-2005 17:41

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lol man you may aswell ban yourself dude..lmfao
I agree! But I will however save him the hassles. ;)
@pro_kash2005
You must think we are totally stupid!?
You are now banned for a month! That will give you time to return your obviously pirated version and to buy a legit version!

DABhand 10-12-2005 19:00

LOL

How can someone not tell the difference between original and burned media.


I dont think he has ever had an original in his life to see the difference.


The price itself should have been a huge giveaway.

JoyJoeJunnior 11-12-2005 04:33

this is too strange... if i understand it, there no need at all to use sfnightmare or anything.

just unplug ide drives and mount in DT4? but then why does it work only sometimes??? :confused: :confused: :mad:

EDIT: does it make anydifference to load the MDF or the MDS?

scara 11-12-2005 08:10

Why it seems that the pop3 mini-image files on gamecopyworld are corrupted ??

rax369 11-12-2005 09:15

The only I think I wonder, is why nobody in GCW test the stuff released before posting it. I mean, would be a good idea doing that and will avoid problems for uploading there useless stuff.

In that mini image u cannt even C its contents, so may be what lots of people R saying around the net is right. That mini image is corrupted. But in the other hand there is the possibility that obviously that's just another FAKE! :mad:

Hopefully a REAL mini image will be released soon. And only may be... coz' this ****!Ng protection (SF) is beign a really pain in the A55 :(

bob58 11-12-2005 09:24

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Originally Posted by rax369
The only I think I wonder, is why nobody in GCW test the stuff released before posting it. I mean, would be a good idea doing that and will avoid problems for uploading there useless stuff.

In that mini image u cannt even C its contents, so may be what lots of people R saying around the net is right. That mini image is corrupted. But in the other hand there is the possibility that obviously that's just another FAKE! :mad:

Hopefully a REAL mini image will be released soon. And only may be... coz' this ****!Ng protection (SF) is beign a really pain in the A55 :(

moreover we could find a fake no-cd patch with a Trojan :mad:

spybart 11-12-2005 13:28

Is it possible to disable your CD drives from the BIOS instead of disconnecting them and be able to play the game that way?

rax369 11-12-2005 14:22

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Originally Posted by spybart
Is it possible to disable your CD drives from the BIOS instead of disconnecting them and be able to play the game that way?

I already tried that, but not even doing that u'll have luck (try it if u want, may be u'll be the lucky guy of the block).

Coz' in mine that didnt work. It's impressive. If not even the BIOS is detecting the IDE Devices @ boot time, why the hell this ****!ng protection doesnt run the game. :confused:

Definitely this protection is being a pain in the ass even for recognized gurus out there, since no consistent solution to this annoying step (unhooking the cables) has been found/released yet. http://fileforums.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

Anti669 11-12-2005 20:37

You can disable it in the device manager IF you have no hard drives on the same IDE controller (eg if you have a SATA HDD) - Disabling the drive doesn't work, but disabling the IDE controller to which it's connected will.

Also, if you're having trouble getting it working, make sure you're using the right CD key... I think the European DVD version and the US 3CD version require different keys.

On a related note... Starforce protection is also preventing a gore patch for the European version. Outside the US, dismemberment is removed from the game, and the difference is in the game exe. But Starforce prevents you from changing the exe. I've got the US exe, but until I have the US versions of...
-The Starforce exe
-The Starforce dll
-The CD key
-An image/mini-image of the US play disc
...I can't work this out.

PS. With my IDE controller disabled, the DVD image mounted in DT4 with NO emulation, and NO Starforce blockers running, the game starts fine.

Grumpy 11-12-2005 21:11

@Anti669
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make sure you're using the right CD key
You should be using the CDkey that came with your original game!?
Please dont discuss CD Keys here, asking for CD keys is against forum rules, and technically this is what you are asking for but in a round about way!

Anti669 11-12-2005 21:22

Sorry... Not asking for one - as I said, I've got the game working fine.

Just thought I'd mention it, as it's something that came up while trying to enable gore in the EU version.

Grumpy 11-12-2005 21:49

When I find out a game is edited, I return it to the shop and tell them exactly why I am returning it. I tell them it is an edited version and as an adult I expected a game that is not edited.
I then contact a friend in the US and he purchases the game for me and posts it over. Yes it takes longer to get the game but at least I end up with the 'full' game as it was meant to be. ;)
Until Australia changes some gaming laws, and brings in an 18+ classification then we are always going to get edited games.
Did you realize that Halflife 2 was very nearly stopped from being released here! This is because most other country have a 17+ rating on it and our rating system only caters for 15+. So if a game is not suitable for under 15 year olds then it wont be released. :eek:
Australia may be a great country in a lot of ways but we are very behind in some things.

P.S: I also have a good friend who owns the local game shop here and he can also import games from the US for me, but in most cases it is actually cheaper for me to buy them from my friend in the US. And yes I do realize I can buy it over the net (like ebay) but if you have friend in other countries you may as well make the best of it. :D

Anti669 11-12-2005 21:58

It's a real pain in the ass, I know... we really need an 18+ rating over here.

What I don't understand though, is that Two Thrones uses exacly the same animations as Warrior Within, yet that didn't get censored. I wonder whether the version reviewed by the ratings board was even the censored... I can see absolutely nothing in the edited version to justify a MA15+ rating.

But banning Half-Life 2?? That's just insanity...
I actually read some guy complaining that it was unsuitable for his eight-year-old kid, not because of the violence, but because of the "sexual innuendo". Claimed "Alyx is dressed indecently, and she kept staring at Gordon's crotch" :D.

Joe Forster/STA 12-12-2005 05:26

Poor guy, with the Half-Life 2 sexual reference problem... I think an eight-year old boy knows much more about sex already than his father does. Kids today, eh! :D

boondawg76 12-12-2005 16:59

POP-The Two Thrones-How to Play
 
To clear up some peoples problems, heres how to play the game with no cd/dvd

-Install image with daemon 4
-Manually disconnect all cd roms/dvd roms from your tower
-Restart computer
-Using Daemon, mount the POPT2T.MDS file that comes with the unpacked image
-Select play game from the menu that comes up(cannot play from starting the game from the game folder)

That is all...verified

Anti669 12-12-2005 18:10

You should be able to run it from the launcher app (PrinceOfPersia.exe) but not the game exe (POP3.exe).

And you can disable the IDE controller in the Device Manger rather than unplugging the cables, but I'm not sure if you can do this if you're using a ParallelATA hard drive (with a SATA HDD you should have no problems).

rax369 12-12-2005 20:07

That mini image posted in GCW, should be removed as it's not even close to work. IT'S A TOTAL FAKE.

I havent heard of somebody beign able to run the game by using that fake-image. Doesnt have sense to keep posted that file there, saying that it's the mini image. The files in that 'mini image' cannt even being read once it has been mounted. :mad: So how the hell it's supposedly to work if not even the files can be read/watched once it's mounted.

If some of u guys, have managed to find/make a mini image for this game let us know PLEASE.

Anti669 12-12-2005 21:20

At least they pulled that CORE NoCD off Megagames... it was just a spyware installer with the GUI (and MIDI track) from a Technic rip...

I was talking to someone who claims he has a mini image - if it works, I'll be sure to submit it to GCW.

tugocan 13-12-2005 01:50

İ have read all pages but can any one tell me how can i play in laptop cuz i dont have any removable device and i used starforce nightmare and starf**k but doesnt work :(
I have a DVD copy and when i try to run the game it say " put your POP3 cd/dvd in to another drive " i tried all the way but i didnt play

Can any one help me with this situation ?

DABhand 13-12-2005 02:00

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Originally Posted by Anti669
You can disable it in the device manager IF you have no hard drives on the same IDE controller (eg if you have a SATA HDD) - Disabling the drive doesn't work, but disabling the IDE controller to which it's connected will.

Also, if you're having trouble getting it working, make sure you're using the right CD key... I think the European DVD version and the US 3CD version require different keys.

On a related note... Starforce protection is also preventing a gore patch for the European version. Outside the US, dismemberment is removed from the game, and the difference is in the game exe. But Starforce prevents you from changing the exe. I've got the US exe, but until I have the US versions of...
-The Starforce exe
-The Starforce dll
-The CD key
-An image/mini-image of the US play disc
...I can't work this out.

PS. With my IDE controller disabled, the DVD image mounted in DT4 with NO emulation, and NO Starforce blockers running, the game starts fine.


Why would you have the US .exe?


Do you actually have the original?

Anti669 13-12-2005 03:34

Sorry, I should say I obtained the US .exe, as I'm looking for a way to uncensor the EU version.

I also recently got a hold of the US Starforce files (amir.exe and amir.dll), so when (if ?) a mini-image of the US version is released, I'll hopefully be able to work something out.

EDIT: I've never heard this said explicitly, but I got the impression from some people that my CD key will only work with my CD. Is this true? I used to wonder years ago why they didn't do this, and eventually decided that
a) It would greatly complicate the manufacturing procedure if every disc was different, and
b) It could turn into a logistical nightmare trying to get every CD into the right box :D
- one tiny little mixup, and the next 50,000 discs end up in the wrong box, shipped with a useless CD key...

If they've actually managed to pull this off, I'm absolutely amazed...
But if this is the case, wouldn't the correct CD key need to be included with the mini-image, which would make this fix illegal and see it removed from almost any site immediately?

il2140 13-12-2005 08:52

keep us posted, ok? I'm quite disappointed with the censorship, too

Joe Forster/STA 13-12-2005 10:28

As far as I remember, there were posts about how the Starforce CD-keys are related to the CD and the information (how reliable? assumptions? no idea!) went that batches of CD's are burnt with the same burnt-onto-CD key and in-the-box key.

As for being so cryptic about those Starforce duplicator tools, that's pretty nonsense. I'm quite sure the Starforce developers already have them and are working on defeating them in an upcoming version of their copy protection. :) or :(

Anti669 13-12-2005 15:35

Ahh, didn't think of that... batches would be far more practical.
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keep us posted, ok? I'm quite disappointed with the censorship, too
Will do, but I'm no hacker... I'm confident I can get this working just by replacing the stuff I listed before, but to patch the EU version, you will need a US key. So even if I do get it working, I will not be able to distribute a (fully functional) version of the "patch" (if you can even call it that :D).

EDIT: I presume it would be just as illegal to inject the working key straight into the registry, correct? I think I spotted my CD key in there while I was looking for a region-related key...

And by the way, can even ONE person vouch for that Keelman mini-image?

il2140 13-12-2005 23:30

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Originally Posted by Anti669
I'm confident I can get this working just by replacing the stuff I listed before, but to patch the EU version, you will need a US key. So even if I do get it working, I will not be able to distribute a (fully functional) version of the "patch" (if you can even call it that :D).

you sure about that? I mean, after SF drivers have authorized your SFkey can't you just replace the files? Or they require authorization again? And is it really necessary to match US .exe with US SF files?

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Originally Posted by Anti669
EDIT: I presume it would be just as illegal to inject the working key straight into the registry, correct? I think I spotted my CD key in there while I was looking for a region-related key...

yeah, it's in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\UBISOFT\POP3\Keys

um, I think you can just put it in there...

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Originally Posted by Anti669
And by the way, can even ONE person vouch for that Keelman mini-image?

I've seen it recognized by the system as a blank CD :7

DABhand 14-12-2005 01:34

my god, no serial talk here, please read the rules.

il2140 14-12-2005 02:40

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Originally Posted by DABhand
my god, no serial talk here, please read the rules.

...and the rules say: "No requests for Serials or CD/DVD-Keys". Noone's requesting anything, we're just discussing where the key is being kept ^^

Anti669 14-12-2005 03:49

Since the CD key is part of the copy protection rather than just the installer, I'd say in this context that just discussing cd keys is well within the rules, so long as no one asks for one, asks where to find one, offers one or offers the location of one.

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yeah, it's in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\UBISOFT\POP3\Keys
um, I think you can just put it in there...
I think SF checks the disc against this registry key every time the game is run. I'm fairly sure it keeps no record of whether the disc validated correctly last time - if it did, anyone could probably use a copy of this record to bypass the protection.

Yes, you can just type the key into the registry, and it works fine. But this is my problem - many people with the European version want this game uncensored, but if I get this working and distribute it as a "patch" (and I use the term very loosely ;)), their CD keys will no longer work. And I cannot simply bundle it with a text file containing the CD key and say "Type this into the registry", 'cause then it would be illegal to distribute.

I suppose any way I do it would probably be illegal, since however I go about it, the serial will still be sitting there in HKCU\Software\UBISOFT\POP3\Keys, able to be read... Though if it isn't mentioned anywhere in the docs, no one might ever find it.

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And is it really necessary to match US .exe with US SF files?
Yes, I'm sure.
The only differences between the US and EU versions are POP3.exe, and the Starforce files amir.exe and amir.dll.
EU SF rejects the US exe.
US SF accepts the US exe, but rejects the EU key.
US exe with US SF and US key then rejects the EU DVD and DVD-image.

So i'm just waiting for a working US mini-image, and this should work. Though I'd really find a way around the key problem, so that GCW can host it...

NITROUS SYSTEM 14-12-2005 04:49

Please help somebody the game doesen't work with Keelman's image....
Also i have downloaded a Spanish guide how to fix the game but i don't know spanish..Here it is the text:1.tener instalao daemon tools 4 con todas las opciones
2.montar la imagen MDS del juego (si montas la MDF no funciona)
3.arranca SFNightmare y pulsa disable cd-rom
4.una vez exo esto abre sd4hide y pulsa HIDE
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ojo!!NO cierres ningun programa de los nombrados,deberas mantenerlos activos!!!!
probablemente esto funcione con muxos juegos de la compaρia UBISOFT

me refiero a splinter cell,KING KONG....y muxos mas


PD:es una ayuda en general,no ay minimagen,con lo cual debereis buscarlas vosotros,tambien vale imagenes completas
Somebody trans.!!!!

Joe Forster/STA 14-12-2005 05:00

I don't think this Spanish mini-guide contains more information that the FAQ on this forum...

I have no idea about Spanish but the steps are pretty obvious: 1) install Daemon Tools (with all options?); 2) mount the Alcohol 120%-made image of the game; 3) start Starforce Nightmare and click Disable CD-ROM; 4) start SD4Hide and click Hide; and something about using full images if mini images don't work.

DABhand 14-12-2005 05:36

But im talking about how someone gets the US exe which would mean he needs the US key, and so on. So in a way its a touchy subject.

Waninkoko 14-12-2005 10:41

The FAQ isn't useful but I'm going to translate it for practise my english :P

1. Install Daemon Tools 4 with all options
2. Mount MDS image of the game (if you mount the MDF file won't work).
3. Run SFNightmare and click on Disable CD
4. Now open sd4hide and click on HIDE
ˇˇWarning!! Don't close any of the applications mentioned, you must keep them active!
Probably this will work with many games of UBISOFT.

I mean Splinter Cell, King Kong... and more.

PD: this is a general help, no mini-image, so you have to find it. Full images are valid too.

PrOzAk 15-12-2005 01:59

http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=74450

DABhand 15-12-2005 02:43

That was a silly post.

josetratejosetrate 15-12-2005 03:25

Someone is playing
 
exist any copy solution of pop t2t?
someone is playing the game without disconect the cables?

Joe Forster/STA 15-12-2005 04:06

@Waninkoko: What do you mean when you say the FAQ isn't useful? Are you reading the FAQ of the forum software or the FAQ of FileForums' PC Games forum?

Waninkoko 15-12-2005 11:40

I mean the FAQ I have translated, not website's FAQ.

NITROUS SYSTEM 15-12-2005 12:26

Please somebody do something with the game...oh and by the way the image on the site isn't working at mine Pc..Any new image..would be appreciated??????

rax369 15-12-2005 20:21

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Originally Posted by NITROUS SYSTEM
...oh and by the way the image on the site isn't working at mine Pc..Any new image..would be appreciated??????

That's something I have been saying since a long time ago.

I dont know what the people on charge of GCW R waitin' 2 remove the fake KeelMan's mini image that has been posted there since December 8th. The image will not be fixed/removed by itself. Somebody will have to find out the way how 2 bypass the SF check. So in the mean time ... what's the point of leaving posted there that useless mini image. :confused:

bob58 16-12-2005 01:08

Do someone know the "russian way": in


How to make (or find) the CFG-file for POP3 Two Thrones ?
How to use the tools for someone not Top-level in programming?


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