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Mister Hack 19-10-2002 12:58

DAEMON Tools
 
Okay, you cannot make a COPY of the game... but at least VeNoM and Swenske are working on their DEAMON Tools...
Visit their Site :D
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podunkviller 20-10-2002 01:40

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Originally posted by ThE ÑiGhTcRaWlÊr
Hi podunkviller, that's nothing unusual matey, my 24102B when using CloneCD does the very same thing. Does not matter if I select 1x write it'll still write at 8x, I personally think this is why the 24102B is having problems with the newer protections, it's writing way too fast .... :);)
if he had posted his burner in the first place instead of making me search through the log for it, i'd have realized why as well ;)

djwy2k 07-11-2002 12:13

i have 1 that works fine till u pop the patch in then it goes west
other wise works sweet as a nut no worries any 1 got any ideas about the patch crash???

Cracker2k3 07-11-2002 12:16

you all can make a "near" by one to one copy
when you use TwinPeak!
a new cool Tool to patch the CCD Image from a Securom*new* V4.xx.xx copy!

RincewindTheWiz 07-11-2002 16:28

All this talk about simply copying Securom New makes me wonder : how are the guys in question sure that their discs are protected with securom in the first place ? With safedisc 2 there are some files in the main cd directory that you can look for, and clonyxxl recognizes them, but is there a way to determine that securom new was used ? I'm beginning to think that only some regions have protected cd's, and the others have unprotected cd's. To verify this we have to determine that the guys with easy copies that work, actually have protected discs. Can ClonyXXL scan for Securom New ? I've tried it a few times with my Warcraft III original, but it didn't find anything. I know for sure that there have been games in the past that came out with safedisc 2 in Europe and unprotected in the USA.

switch2g00d 07-11-2002 16:52

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Originally posted by RincewindTheWiz
All this talk about simply copying Securom New makes me wonder : how are the guys in question sure that their discs are protected with securom in the first place ? With safedisc 2 there are some files in the main cd directory that you can look for, and clonyxxl recognizes them, but is there a way to determine that securom new was used ? I'm beginning to think that only some regions have protected cd's, and the others have unprotected cd's. To verify this we have to determine that the guys with easy copies that work, actually have protected discs. Can ClonyXXL scan for Securom New ? I've tried it a few times with my Warcraft III original, but it didn't find anything. I know for sure that there have been games in the past that came out with safedisc 2 in Europe and unprotected in the USA.

Good point! :eek:

Cracker2k3 07-11-2002 23:13

Alcohol 120% Uses the TwinPeak Technology!

Mister Hack 14-11-2002 12:26

The UT2k3-Version i own is for sure protected with Securom (Version 4.83.55.0017 to be exact). But nonetheless i managed to BURN A 1:1 COPY!
For all of you wondering how: I used the Blindwrite Suite Version 4.2.2.12 to do the Job including the "Physical CD characteristic dumper". And it worked!
Okay, it heavily searches on the copy when starting the game, so it´s not a perfect copy at all, but after a while it finds enough "good" physical structures on the copy to bypass the protection.
:D

Machina 14-11-2002 13:47

If a copy works, and no NO-CD crack is needed - why want a 1:1 copy? Whats the difference then?

Machina 14-11-2002 14:21

why can't you make a copy from a copy and what do you mean by BLACKLISTED?

dusted 14-11-2002 14:47

Vluka is right about the not being able to make a copy from the copy.

Try and backup your copy using the process u did to create it and you'll see what is meant.

blackcheck 15-11-2002 11:12

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'Cause it's not 1:1? As for blacklist - Sony can render those copies unusable with any upcoming SecuROM revision - maybe next update to Your favourite game will have it and copy of that game may stop working with that update.
uhm,i was just wondering how would you reliably detect twin sectors with the same content? the only way i could imagine
would be by reading the data track as audio. but only very few drives can do that.

btw amplified weak sectors are no 1:1 copy either. you can detect it very easily. on lots of drives you can even tell real (c2) bad sectors from faked ( clonecd's wrong edc sectors ) bad sectors.

the reason that sd2 doesnt check this is simple: compatibility...

Machina 15-11-2002 12:38

Aha, I think I get it. I don't like Sony though, I like copies!

elementour 21-11-2002 10:58

so in general can you make a 1:1 copy of any of the latest games ? and if not what is the best possible senareo where you can install and run the game from the copied cd and possibly make a copy from the copy too.


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