Think that a new realease of firmware will not change any more things.This is a Primary Burning Chipset issue so only software will do the job. Now it seems that macrovision prepared it sfv2.51 version to knock down plextors. Let's hope Olli will found an alternative way soon.

Good luck!

time is the best 1 to answer our questions...

hmmm.....time is a relative thing......

why do you think so?

law of relativity

oh...yes....

Re: Plex 24/10/40 Does Do SD2
 

hey ghosthacker , podunkviller , emptyeighty

why did you give grief over me being able to copy sd2.51 with my plex 24x when this guy posted back then that he was able to do it , you ranted and raved it was not possible and so on and that i was the only one who claimed to have success but here is someone else and you were aware of this post since you posted here yourself .

usually does not mean always , as in this case they are wrong .

This guy gave clear, concise information on what settings he used, the hardware, and the results. He gives information such as TLA#, firmware etc. He stated all these clearly to give us an insight into what his Plex has achieved. We accept this information take it on board and move on as the few replies after his posts show.
With the other topic in the other forum with you, you repeat your point over and over, and there just is no point. You don't take it into the depth that this guy has taken it.

Nuff said.

nuff?

enough

Yeah yeah you can say im going over old ground but it seems you have a bee in your bonnet about something .

You either think the plex 24x can or cannot copy sd2.51 without the use of beta blocker . Make your mind up as you did say you would not believe it unless someone else posted with same results , well here you are and its not cougeruk (who is one of my alias's) , lol , yeah right .

So are you saying you believe this guy noyb1?

I'm not saying I believe his findings. But I'm not saying I don't believe them. We will take his findings on board and draw up our own conclusions based on the evidence that is there.

so could i ask you what your conclusion actually is , do you believe him or not .

enough off the enough said thing already!

who cares about your "enough said" i would like a reply from ghosthacker and nobody else .
Im curious as to what his conclusion .

Jeez you guys dont half stick together .

i was talking in general, when people say 'nuff said' i don;t like that!

ok dokay packer , my sincere apologies .

You want my conclusion?

Based on the total evidence I have got to date, I conclude that the Plex 24X cannot copy SD2.51 without modifcation by Betablocker etc. Until more conclusive evidence that it can copy it appears, that will be my conclusion.

Happy now??

I have my opinion, and you have yours.

Goodbye

goodbye , lol .

i say we hook laffin tattie up to a polygraph, and then beat him with a stick. then ask him the questions. see how it goes. maybe im being irrational,

how about i just beat you with a stick

that was a very grown up suggestion , did playgroup teach you that , bubba bubba .

19 posts... how many of them helped people, how many harrassed people for calling you a liar, and how many claimed you had the only plex in existence that can copy 2.51 ?

well 19 posts maybe but if anyone needs help cloning sd2,51 with a 24x plex im your man .

if your post count means so much and that gives you an instant superior status, well chew on this , i have - 1332 (2.91 posts per day) at another forum (veteran status) , registered 02-05-2001 , i provide a back up service , i have sold countless cloned copies of mohaa and sims on holiday , and all the other sd2.51 titles , all of which worked for the happy customer.
Please note the customer owned the original copy i was supplying a back up as they did not have the hardware to do it themselves .
All my posts were not just thru selling ,also helping others when i can and asking many technical questions i needed an answer for , and i usually got a friendly helpful response .
Almost everyone is friendly there and very helpful and it does not have 3 or 4 main posters who think they know all.

hey,let's all calm down here..it's not a fight forum..we help people here!!!!!!!!hey,can you please give me the adress of the forum you are a veteran member?i want to check it out and see some of your replies......if you are so good at copy protection then you would have registered at fileforums much earlier.......well,the thing you can is send a copy of yours at a main site admin(cd freaks....)and ask him very kindly to check this copy and what it was used for making this...then,if he finds that everything you said was real he will post this and noboby will have any doupts....i hope we can give a silution to this and not argue.....

@packer

let's try to find what is going on here not be so......oligarchic.....

i have to say that is the most civilized response i have had , i dont think its good policy to post links to other forums as i dont think its allowed .
I dont claim to be an expert on copy protection , but i have a lot of cloning experience , i dont go into the in and outs of it , i dont go to cd freaks website and i know damn all about "olli" and i dont really care what "olli" said about anything , but people continually quote "olli" and cd freaks , i just go on my own findings , if i have a problem i ask on the other forum i use and 9 times out of 10 i get the help i need .
i came over here to find out one or two things i was not getting a reply on in the other forum , spotted ghosthacker mention that the plextor 24x could not clone sd2.51 without beta blocker , well i had to correct him . But no way hosey would anyone accept my ability to clone sd2,51 . In fact id say a few certain people tried to make an arse out of me .

You cannot say my ability to clone copy protected games means i should have registered ages ago , i did find a lot of info on cdmediaworld and gamecopyworld but never joined the forum although i did read the posts often .

If i were to post a cd to cdfreaks they would have no proof of what hardware was used to copy it .

I dont understand why you want to check out my posts on another forum , my status there should not alter the way people treat me here , i did not come on here and state i was a veteran at so and so forum in order to get some recognition . I only mentioned this as a certain person tried to make an arse of my 19 posts .

and hey themis_t , im telling it like it is , please dont think im having a go at the things you said , it was a decent reply you gave but im just giving you an insight to some of the things you mentioned .

If i could prove in any way that the plex 24 can clone sd2.51 i would , but i dont think its possible unless you come round to my house , but i dont think thats possible , if someone sends me £100 i will post it to them in the uk and they can try it themselves , but i dont think anyone will , lol .

Warm Regards
Laughing Potato

ok...i trust you but not get on your side or anyones else..i want to have my own opinion!

i have contacted oc_freak from cdfreaks.com , i will try and find out what info they have on the plextors 24x that can do the discussed copy protection . will be back soon .
oc_freak is a member at the other forum i use so he will know by my posts there that im genuine (hopefully) , lol.

sorry about harrassing you, but usually we try and help here. i'll still wager 20 % of your posts here are 'i can copy 2.51 w/my plex' and 80 % are 'i dont care that you cant, because i can'. it seems every thread become a bitter argument between you and everyone else posting, until it falls off the 1st page, then it starts on a new thread.

the reason everyone quotes olli is because olli is on top of all things copy related. if he says it can't be done, i believe him. and as for cdfreaks, they do the most in-depth reviews of every writer that comes out. they test protected cd's, audio cd's, read times, and everything in between. they say the plex cant read/write 2.51 w/out betablocker. (or clonecd4.0.0.1)

the biggest thing that was/is working against you was that you said you used AWS. it just doesntt make sense. ill accept it, and keep using my philips, though. happy cloning.

Themist what does that suppose to mean?


the moral of the story....is

if someone syas they can backup somehing,perfectly and i mean no betablocker, aws, cracks, patches, iso fixes, daemon tools, playback or anything like that whatso ever, oh and they must work in all cd drives then you gotto believe him, but it may be a flpook.....just like the arugment i had at another forum.....

this means i will keep my opinion on the subject........hey,we are not talking about this kind perfect copies....if it was this way a perfect copy would be able to be made at any burner.....

Hi again

First thing is i want to apologise to you, laffin tattie. And everyone else i harassed in any way. I posted some s*it that was really no good.

Second thing is i think that podunkvillers right when he says that every thread of yours has become a bitter fight. Of course im to blame for that partly. But when i first entered the discussion i was friendly until you came up with that illegal stuff which was against the rules.

Third thing is im really glad that we can have a normal discussion now. Its much better this way. I can go along with themis when he says this is not a fight forum.

glad to see a more pleasant mood now .

i think a few people on here should learn a lesson from this , not all newbies are total novices and you dont need to get on someones back because you think that person is wrong .That is what got my back up . Being a little more friendly would help .

Legal or illegal stuff , were here to discuss backing up games etc , and come on none of us are law abiding citizens , i know you cant discuss illegal stuff here , but what i do with my back ups is not related to this forum and that does not make me a bad person nor does in mean i deserve unfriendly replies to my posts .

Anyway lets chill guys .

so where is my coke and cigar?

if you get a coke and cigar i want one to;)

i ll take the cike but no cigar....

Yeah, cokes great. I got some in the fridge still. But no smoking, its bad for your health.

okay cigar is bad m,aybe a splint...

Now its gone...