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yasitha 30-12-2018 22:52

Question Update
 
Precompressor is really necessary?. why can't i use
SREP+LZMA or LOLZ or LZMA2?

Why do we have to use Precompressor.
It's slowing down extremely,
That's why i ask to get better answer
From tou guys.

I have done more testing...

With oodle compression it took 16h to complete.
Without oodle, it only took 5 hours to complete.
both are use the same srep +lzma options.
Oodle is extremely slow.

Different BTW just one DVD.
With srep+lzma 9xDVD5 final disk 3.98GB
with oodle 8xDVD5 final disk 750mb

For installing oodle take to much time like 1h 35m
And use cpu 100% all the time.

With srep+lzma only use 30% under,
and install around 35m / 45m

so my question is Precompressor is really necessary?
If i don't use that, i can save lot of time.

is there any other trick available,
That i can use with srep+lzma
To get better ratio?


I Have learn lot of thing from you guys and i really appreciate it and im glade you guys are to help

KaktoR 31-12-2018 01:58

You should see it from the point of repack competition :)

yasitha 31-12-2018 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaktoR (Post 478320)
You should see it from the point of repack competition :)

What do you mean by that? your suggestion is go with precomp if it still take too much time?


Oky, tell me bro,
Do you know How To Create Disk list? If you know,
Please post here. I have open new Thread for it.

https://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=102511

yasitha 08-01-2019 02:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simorq (Post 478182)
Code:

6C 12T;)

192 Best results.

#4x4
192m(Dictionary)x12Tx12= 28 Gb Ram Used for Compression

#4x4:t8:b128m:lzma:a1:mfbt4:256m:fb273:mc1024:lc8
256m(Dictionary) x 12T x t8 = 24 Gb Ram Used for Compression

#lolz
~ mt threads(-mt[1..16])
192m(Dictionary) x 12T x mt* =...


Hi can you explain this with LOLZ?
with CPU Core 4 Thread 8

IF I Use b192m with mt4 how much C and D ram requires pls explain like LZMA... for LOLZ

Simorq 08-01-2019 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by yasitha (Post 478538)
Hi can you explain this with LOLZ?
with CPU Core 4 Thread 8

IF I Use b192m with mt4 how much C and D ram requires pls explain like LZMA... for LOLZ

lolz
192m(Dictionary) x 8T x mt4 =6.5 GB Rame

for Decode: (Depending on the file type.)
mtt1:
64m = decode mem usage per thread = 136mb
192m= decode mem usage per thread = 384mb

yasitha 08-01-2019 02:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simorq (Post 478540)
lolz
192m(Dictionary) x 8T x mt4 =6.5 GB Rame

for Decode: (Depending on the file type.)
mtt1:
64m = decode mem usage per thread = 136mb
192m= decode mem usage per thread = 384mb

Thanks, that's is very helpful.

yasitha 08-01-2019 02:50

Do you know how to speed up decompressing any magic trick? :) using LOLZ or LZMA with XTOOL or oodle or srep... any magic available for speed up? For decompressing?

Simorq 08-01-2019 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by yasitha (Post 478544)
Do you know how to speed up decompressing any magic trick? :) using LOLZ or LZMA with XTOOL or oodle or srep... any magic available for speed up? For decompressing?

srep+XTOOL+srep faster but...

yasitha 08-01-2019 04:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simorq (Post 478551)
srep+XTOOL+srep faster but...

There's but coming... ;) why

shazzla 08-01-2019 06:49

decreased compression ratio.

yasitha 08-01-2019 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazzla (Post 478559)
decreased compression ratio.

seems like yoi know about compression stuffs :)

can you tell me a1/2/3/4...16 and d1g and - s25gb
those method what they do.

If i compress big games like 100GB do i have to chage 25GB to 100gb in srep setting?
Is that necessary?

Gupta 08-01-2019 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simorq (Post 478551)
srep+XTOOL+srep faster but...

For first srep use greater -l value like -l1024 or even -l 4048, smaller values may eat the headers xtool looks for, it's not guaranteed this will work even, it will surely wirk for games haing a lot of same data f.e gta 4 + EFLC,

You can use xtool+rep+srep...

Gupta 08-01-2019 07:42

This increases compression,decompression speed and memory��, well tested...

yasitha 08-01-2019 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gupta (Post 478569)
This increases compression,decompression speed and memory��, well tested...

Oky

yasitha 08-01-2019 20:14

LOLZ Decode Memory
Calculate Problem :(

I've Used d192:mtt1:mt4, for Compression,
and when it finished, it showed
Decode mem use 392mb for per thread.

and i have 4c/8 thread cpu.

While decompressing lolz
Use 2.330MB RAM

It should be 1568mb
for decompressing
(392mb x mt4 = 1568mb)

Ram memory using!
Oodle for 300 MB
Srep for 550MB
LOLZ for 2.330MB

what I'm i missing here?
Why lolz use 2.3Gb instead 1.5GB?

shazzla 08-01-2019 22:58

Download 'process explorer'. I dont know the url. Its a tiny program ,correctly shows detailed memory usage/process infos, etc. Give it a shot.

yasitha 08-01-2019 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazzla (Post 478595)
Download 'process explorer'. I dont know the url. Its a tiny program ,correctly shows detailed memory usage/process infos, etc. Give it a shot.

I use Windows 10 Task Manager,
it show me most infos...

Simorq 11-01-2019 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by yasitha (Post 478589)
LOLZ Decode Memory
Calculate Problem :(

I've Used d192:mtt1:mt4, for Compression,
and when it finished, it showed
Decode mem use 392mb for per thread.

and i have 4c/8 thread cpu.

While decompressing lolz
Use 2.330MB RAM

It should be 1568mb
for decompressing
(392mb x mt4 = 1568mb)

Ram memory using!
Oodle for 300 MB
Srep for 550MB
LOLZ for 2.330MB

what I'm i missing here?
Why lolz use 2.3Gb instead 1.5GB?

8 thread x 392mb for per thread = 3.136 gb:rolleyes:

if CLS.ini
[Lolz]
Bufsize=512k
transfer_ReadBufSize=512k
transfer_WriteBufSize=512k
MaxThreadsUsage=100% Change to 4
MaxMemoryUsage=75%

4 thread x 392mb for per thread = 1.568 gb

yasitha 11-01-2019 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simorq (Post 478689)
8 thread x 392mb for per thread = 3.136 gb:rolleyes:

if CLS.ini
[Lolz]
Bufsize=512k
transfer_ReadBufSize=512k
transfer_WriteBufSize=512k
MaxThreadsUsage=100% Change to 4
MaxMemoryUsage=75%

4 thread x 392mb for per thread = 1.568 gb

thanks!!!
i thought thread means" mt4 threads,

so if i install this on 4 thread PC"
it will only use 1.568 gb ram Right ?

its possible to install this on 4 Thread right ?
i don't have 4 thread pc to check :(


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