u might want to check out www.ps2ownz.net theres alot of reviews on it there and the swap dics cant hurt a ps2 its just if u use a slide card with the disc it could tear up a system or flip tops i used it for a few days it worked fine and i dont belive it will kill ur ps2 unless u leave the lid open all the time lol and with no solder chips with swap disc i never seen a problem with them unless u get a bad chip which is unlikely and it would kill a ps2 right off i had this happen b4 :( but that was like 1 chip out of 50 lol but what ever rout u go the slide card will be most likely to kill a ps2 unit right off but which ever way u go u will need one of the 3 to boot the games with swap disk

A. a slide card = crap
B. a flip top lid = decent lids can break ez though
C. a no solder mod = best of the 3 works pretty good in my eyes the best u can get for a mod besides a solder chip there the best

If would use a no-solder mod before i used the lid.BTW the owner of PS2OWNZ.com, Z or whatever he calls himself, invented the flip lid and is VERY biased. He bans any negative feedback on it as well as the person that posted it.Newbie's come here for advise yet rarely take it. If you want hassle free booting buy a no-swap chip and stay away from this crap. It really doesnt cost that much more.

Ive been thinkin of outlawing the posts of fliptop lids and swap magics here. What do you think Warlock. I wont ban anyone, just lock the thread and post a rule about it in the forum rules.:D




Tyler!

Absolutely :D :D

Cool, Ill talk it over with Biggie and see what we come up with.



Tyler!

GEEZ! I feel so left out! :D :D

LOL, get on MSN Messenger or AIM sometime bud and Ill fill you in. My new AIM name is FileForumsDevil.


Tyler!

yeah they r made very cheap it dont take much and the lid will break maybe if some one else makes it and puts more time into it could last awhile i bought some for a relly cheap price to resell :D and the lid was busted on one that was never used only payed 25$ each for them with swap magic shiped which is relly a decent price cause swap disk r 20$ each

Maybe?? Maybe Not??
 

Hey tyler if you guys would have outlawed posts on filp tops and swap magics here a week ago, I wouldn't have read all these negative replies about it, therefor making me (a newbie) possibly buying the piece of crap. I think instead of outlawing swap magic etc. posts.. you guys should make a thread on why it sucks so much and warning all the newbies to avoid this product. I think the negative reviews about it might damage sales then again I'm a newbie I could be wrong and my opinion might be useless.

i dont think it would even dent the sales check out ownz 90% of the people there use no solder mods and such and there site has been number 1 for awhile so that means alot of peps vist it i like going there to the b/s/t section and also cheaking out the newz like on playing copy games online there getting close to solveing this problem :) but i vist here ownz and newz i check them all out :)

i have non solders i got my self a duo chip fitted :):D

I dont think there the #1 site EVO, maybe #1 in the #2 business :D

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Very good point. Me and Bighap discussed this issue for a few hours yesterday and found it may be a more complicated subject than normal. Your idea sure does help quite a bit though.


Tyler!

thats just what peps at newz said even though they h8 ownz they said there was one stite better then them they told me in a bad way lol and i read some were they was like number 1 3 yo's in a row but thats just what i read it dont make no difrance to me i vist them all :)

I used to use these forums a lot but to be honest they seem to have gone down hill.

Big up to Bighap/BG/Charlie/Tyler & Warlock and I hope non of this offends any of you.

I had a spare no solder lying around so after selling my V5 messiah a year ago decided to put the no solder into a brand new V7.

I had a couple of spare swap magic discs so decided to make it a temp job until I could be bothered installing a messiah 2.

1 year down the line and I've still got the no solder and swap magic setup cause it works fine and doesn't freeze games such as GTA vice city/kingdom hearts etc (like on Magic 3)

I did a lot of testing for the forum when 'problem' games occured with the swap magic 2 and compiled a list which may still be around on this forum but with the CDloader (Or swap magic 3) EVERY SINGLE GAME BOOTS(Including HighTOC Rips)


In my opinion yes it's a lot of messing around but it is a valid set up for people who don't want to install a solder chip.

Deciding to ban talk of swap magic is pathetic and even more childish than the goings on over at ps2ownz. I remember the days when this forum was to give people ways of playing their backups, with honest opinions and experiences. Not just crap such as " Swap magic is an easy way to kill your ps2" cause swap magic doesn't do *hit all damage at all.