on the thread i posted above it says to binhack to 11700 or 11702 and that bin2boot will not work with lemec loader!
all i need to know is how to find the lba after i burnt the 4 second audio track without using cdrecord
i just burnt another disk with the 4 second audio track and cdrwin tells me the lba is 299 but it must be telling me the sector size and not the lba!

bin2boot does work with the lemec loader as i burned a cd using that method and it worked just fine.

then how do i make the iso to run through bin2boot because i havent got the lba numbers to enter into mkisofs

Use CDRWin

the lba you should enter is 0, because before making the image you should binhack the bins to 0 (zero).

e.g.

mkisofs -C 0,0 -V Segagen -l -o Segagen.iso Segagen_Files
bin2boot Segagen.iso


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If you want to use CdrWin, binhack everything to 11700. Thats usually the lba everyone gets after they've burned the first audio session with CdrWin.

Nop :
_ binhack everything to 0
_ use CDRWin to build a 9660 Iso image
_ use Bin2bin on this image

You MUSN'T binhack to 11700 if you use Bin2Boot. In fact, Bin2boot hacks ONLY 1st read file to 0 (it can't guess which other files it needs to hack). If some other files need to be hacked, you have to do it manually, using a LBA = 0.
So, if there's only 1 file to hack, don't even bother to binhack it before using Bin2Boot.

i binhacked everything to 0,made the iso with mkisofs,used bin2boot on the iso,burnt the image and this time it does not even tell me there is no memory card all i get is the obsidian screen and then a black screen!
on my other attempts i got the screen telling me i dont have a memory card in then black!
i'm beginning to think i cant do this and that is really annoying

I know he shouldn't binhack to 11700 if he decides to use bin2boot... Was I that unclear.
When i said binhack to 11700 i wasn't referring to bin2boot method.

What's your email djgarf, i'll see if i can send you the one i've made.

cheers mate check your private messages!