dunno the origanls still work ok and some of the backups still work dont have any trouble with cd-r's and i have nealy 20 of those I'm gunna try a couple of things today and i'll let u know how i go cd cleaning kit, laser cleaning, some nice knew media if i can find it and im gunna take my backups to a freinds house and see if any of that works thanks heaps 4 ya help buddy

If originals and cd-r work try new media.

what do u think of sony DVD+R media is it any good or not

Not sure but it should be ok.

Ive tried Ricoh with not much success on ar2
im waiting for Verbatim to arrive:)

Yeah i dont think there much good really do u Know any good sights to order vertibram from