oh yes....

Hi @ all!

It seems, SafeDisc is an easy protection.
In the past I read much about such of these protections.
Now ... and in the future ;) i'm interessted, how to bite SafeDisc.

The problem: How to start?

In the past I tryed to "crack" some little nag screens and key-prompts. With the result of blue screens and in some cases: missing nag screens! :rolleyes: There was more luck than understanding!

But CD protection is not the same as nag screens or key-prompt, isn't it?

And an other question: Why is Safe-Disc from version to version different? Other routines?

Thnx ...

PowerTiger

I think you're trying to run before you can walk. You need a good understanding (or at least an idea) of ASM, Windows API's and the PE file structure first :) Softice is probably a must as well!

There are some good tut's on Safedisc as well, so you may be lucky and be able to understand them.

THEN you can think about Safedisc ;) Or you could just 'reverse' bOOl's cleaner and cheat :eek:

The reason there are differing versions is simply to stay one step ahead of the crackers. A new version will theoretically need more time to 'crack', but we all know that's a load of s**t as they usually get cracked the same day :)

DrA.

*smile* I know, I'm a newbe about that.

I have already some knowlege about Windows API and assembler-language (the basic).

I installed SoftIce last year just for fun (Try-And-Error-Technique :D ). I notice, that SoftIce is a powerfull tool - not only for cleaning Apps and Games from any nag screen and so on. ;)

But SoftIce was "to big" for learning. I hadn't a reason to use it. I always need a reason for learning. It is the same in school. Like Math: For what I need this f***** equation? :rolleyes:

OK ... SoftIce is needed for professional cracking. But I need a goal - like SafeDisc! :)

But back to topic! If you have some "Start-Here"-Informations, let me know it, please.

Thnx, ...

PowerTiger

Try Krobar's tutorial collection:

h**p://zor.org/krobar/

there's quite a few Safedisc tut's.

And I know what ya mean about equations, why the f*ck do I need to know: 2x + 1b = 0? Transpose my ar*e :)

DrA.

you can also study the source code of r!sc's sd 2.40.10 unwrapper. that's where i started :)

Hmm... overlooked that option, 'The Bleedin Obvious' is not my speciality it seems :D

Well pointed out bOOl's :)

DrA.

They might actually get a good protection if they did that for a while...

Uuuuu ... the first impression of your link: Much informations!
Thnx Dr. Apocalypse and b00ls eYe! :)

And thnx for your sympathy with me about Math! :D

About open source: Did they "steel" source-code from free programmers? First made open for bug-fixing and upgrading and then close when it is "perfect" and make money with it!

Boolseye do you need files from a SafeDisc v2.80.010 game? If so let me know what I have to send aswell as which compressions program to use and the parameters for the size of each archive....I have Sims Unleashed and it sports the above SafeDisc, which I cannot backup with my LiteOn 40125s and CloneCD or BlindWrite.

yeah, the sd 2.80 cd-check became better... seems they can detect the difference between an original cd and a clone.

i don't need any 2.80 files. i have 5 exe's protected with that version, that's enough for now.
thanks anyway.

Any details on this? What about two-sheep burners - are they beaten?

I think so I've got a Liteon 40125s and cannot create a working backup with CloneCD or BlindWrite. And I've always have been able to create a working backup with CloneCD

I've read that most people using Clone CD weren't able to make a copy, but by using other software such as Blindwrite or Disk Jugglar many had success. :(

I also tried DiscJuggler 3.5 and Blindwrite (check sig) and then a moderator from CDFreaks suggested I try DiscDump and it's front end and that worked!

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=54912

That's the link to the thread and if you are too lazy I'll quote the success.....

"Philamber by following your directions, using DiscDump and it's FrontEnd I read Sims Unleashed with the LiteOn Writer (setting a max speed of 8x read) also selecting the SafeDisc option in the frontend and burned it at 8x aswell using Nero 5.5.9.9. I clicked on the File menu, then selecting Burn Image and selecting the Cue Sheet generated by Disc Dump, then selecting DAO/96.

So where 2 Pay Programs failed, a FREE program succeeded. VERY impressive I must say.....I hope Disc Dump gets revised if and when it needs to.


Also BlindWrite didn't create totally create a coaster, it just didn't create a correct backup just like CloneCD, the files are there and the backup will install....it just won't RUN off the backup, which is what should happen. "


Also this thread on CDFreaks contains more info on using Disc Dump and other programs to read and write your image

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=50778