how much wud it set me back? a lot?

Go to the website I posted... They have the prices for the chips there....
Just a note: I paid $413.00 (US) for my pre-modded PS2... That was a brand new V5 PAL PS2 with the Messiah already installed plus shipping to my front door.....:cool:

is it the m-pal addon?
and does it require soldering?

Yes.... Its the M-PAL addon...
And yes it requires 23 wires to be soldered..... Unless you are a pro at soldering I would HIGHLY suggest getting someone to do it for you...

ah, doh! dnt no any pros :( and itll cost quite a bit to send it to someone

Either pay more NOW and get the Messiah or you will be back on this forum all the time asking questions like "Why will this game not play?"....
The Messiah is worth EVERY PENNY it will cost you..... The choice is yours BUT remember...... You were warned......:cool:

how easy would it be to copy ps2 games? i dont wanna spend all this money and have no use for the chip

That's depends on the hardware in your computer...
Do you have a "Good CD Burner"? A 100% Clone CD compatible burner is the best to have.... Go to this website to see if your burner is compatible...Compatible Writers!
Do you have a DVD burner? (Pioneer A03 or A04 are the proven ones)

In my opinion, it is very easy to copy them....

yes mines on that list :)
its a philips DVDrw208

Nem2k, It really doesnt cost THAT much more for messiah. If you buy a crap neo chip or any other version mod that requires swaping you must also purchase a GS2 or AR2 along with a original copy of DMC to boot the larger dvd games. IMO $413.00 for a new console pre modded with a messiah or magic2 chip is well worth it.

ive already got a ps2 tho, and i really dnt have the money to buy another one

Get someone to install it for you, All i am saying is that by the time you buy a cheap $20.00 modchip, a $50.00 GS2 as well as a $50.00 original dvd game you have spent $120.00.

so anyone with any soldering experience can solder a messiah as long as they know where to put it?

I would suggest you contact Charlie_ps2 or Dust2Dust. Both are located in the UK and are very trustworthy. You can email them through this forum

Well where r u in u.k
If u stay around Manchester than give me a call,or Charlie-ps2 or Dust to Dust depand where u stay.