............another case of the magical writer. i wish you could tell which ones were magic before you bought them.

and i asked him if they were 1:1 copies too, i dont think he's telling the whole story

woooah ive been busy and testing a few things , like i said i had been copying these games which are cloned mohaa serious sam 2 sims on holiday and combat mission and renegade , i done them all on my plex 24x and tested them all in my liteon dvd and they all worked , but i then tried them in my plex cdrom and had problems , so i lowered read speed and burn speed and they work fine in my cdrom now , i read at 4x to image using fes and 3 retries and none for error correction , i burned to cd at 4x and using aws , the copy worked fine in my dvd drive and my cdrom , i started the game 6 times in each drive just to be sure , i done a copy at 12x and aws and it worked in my dvd but not cdrom , so i could not try 8x as my media only supports 1x 4x 12x 16x and so on . So i burned to a 10x cdrw at 10x and this worked fine in both drives so if i could get the right media i could burn at 8-10x sucessfully . This was done using clone cd v3,2,3.1 , i never used betablocker as i dont have it on my hd anyway , so i will try the other games and let you know if they are the same . If you have a 24x plex try it , if it works for me it should work for anyone else , im not doing anything special here merely reducing read and write speeds to get the right result .
Oh and im not using a cracvk , dooh , just because im a newbie it does not mean im new to cloning , if im asking a few questions its only because im unsure so feel free do help and stop doubting the plex .

I have a Plex 24X TLA# 0101 firmware 1.03 (haven't upgraded to the fresh 1.04 yet) and I have tried every possible combination of thing. Read/write spee, with and without AWS, Read retries 0, 3 etc.

The only way I've duplicated (although I shouldn't use that word as it isn't perfect) is by using Betablocker 2.51 with a low read/write.
The Plex can copy the game without modification but runs only in the burner.

There were a lot of rumours spread a few months ago when 2.51 came out, that simply lowering read/write cured it - 99% of people who tried this failed (only worked in burner).

I'm not doubting the validilty of your account - I just don't believe you. :p

Wow, a real technical discussion here.

I dont think you can copy 1:1 with a plex 24x because changing the speed should not make a difference. Technology has advanced and reading is very exact now (Meaby not at 72x or something, but 8x, 10x, 16x).