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KaktoR 20-12-2018 15:24

The first. Xtool will (pre)compress all files.

Note that xtool is not a final compressor. It just unpack game archives for better compression afterwards (in very most cases), so you will see that xtool in some cases double the output size.

I don't have the game but if xtool does nothing, means output size (data.arc) is the same as input size (pack folder).

Chrushev 20-12-2018 15:29

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Originally Posted by KaktoR (Post 477990)
The first. Xtool will (pre)compress all files.

Note that xtool is not a final compressor. It just unpack game archives for better compression afterwards (in very most cases), so you will see that xtool in some cases double the output size.

I don't have the game but if xtool does nothing, means output size (data.arc) is the same as input size (pack folder).

I think something else is wrong. It literally finishesin less than 1 second. So it doesnt try to do anything. and there is no output after attempt, meaning it crashed.

I dont really want to spend a lot of time trying to squeeze out as much compression out of a game as I can, I just need something sensible. From what I saw UltraArc did an excellent job. It was very fast (maybe 10 min for the game, and it accomplished compression close to what fitgirl got on that game). That works for me.

Can you help me with making the setup.exe work with unpacking the .arc files created via UltraArc?

Or I am fine with using xtool if there is some automated easy way to use it (aka, not going through game folders trying to figure files out). Just point at the folder and click GO is the type of solution I am looking for.

pakrat2k2 20-12-2018 15:33

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Originally Posted by Chrushev (Post 477993)
I think something else is wrong. It literally finishesin less than 1 second. So it doesnt try to do anything. and there is no output after attempt, meaning it crashed.

I dont really want to spend a lot of time trying to squeeze out as much compression out of a game as I can, I just need something sensible. From what I saw UltraArc did an excellent job. It was very fast (maybe 10 min for the game, and it accomplished compression close to what fitgirl got on that game). That works for me.

Can you help me with making the setup.exe work with unpacking the .arc files created via UltraArc?

Or I am fine with using xtool if there is some automated easy way to use it.

you can use any of the conversions posted in main conversion forum, then just run ultraarc & choose method..

Now if you want to create your own installer, again get the ciuv2 from its topic open & extract archive, then look at the setup.ini all the information is provided there. Look at images & corresponding place in ini for the image itself, ( autorun, installer, smallinstaller, buttons etc ) a installer is already included in the package all you have to do is read.

KaktoR 20-12-2018 15:36

Yes it crash, for me too sometimes.

What I do: just spam pack.bat til it works. If it works you see when 0.0% in cmd window get progress (or in taskmanager xtool.exe is working).

Chrushev 20-12-2018 15:45

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Originally Posted by pakrat2k2 (Post 477995)
you can use any of the conversions posted in main conversion forum, then just run ultraarc & choose method..

Now if you want to create your own installer, again get the ciuv2 from its topic open & extract archive, then look at the setup.ini all the information is provided there. Look at images & corresponding place in ini for the image itself, ( autorun, installer, smallinstaller, buttons etc ) a installer is already included in the package all you have to do is read.

I already have a setup.exe that I made but it errors out when trying to unpack precomp and LZMA2 compressed game. I get this:

ERROR: archive data corrupted (decompression fails)

but if I use unpack.exe that UltraArc made then the game files unpack just fine. So they arent corrupt.

Chrushev 20-12-2018 17:25

To go back to xtool real quick. So it comes with a dummy file, and when I run pack it converts it from a ~200kb to a ~500kb file. It inflated it?

So what is supposed to be the order of doing things? Is it supposed to inflate (make files bigger), then some other tool should be used to compress them back? What tool should that be? or can xtool do it too?

KaktoR 21-12-2018 02:12

You got it. XTool inflates files.

after this, you should always use srep+final compressor (lzma(2), lolz, rz, ...)

Output will be smaller in 99% of cases then if you don't use xtool (which is a precompressor btw).

But it has all to do of which streams a file use. Some games didn't have a compression at all and in this cases without xtool should be the best.

Chrushev 21-12-2018 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaktoR (Post 478010)
You got it. XTool inflates files.

after this, you should always use srep+final compressor (lzma(2), lolz, rz, ...)

Output will be smaller in 99% of cases then if you don't use xtool (which is a precompressor btw).

But it has all to do of which streams a file use. Some games didn't have a compression at all and in this cases without xtool should be the best.

Is there an all in One tool that is up to date (I ve seen a few old ones that dont use new inflators or compressors) that will do all this for me?

UltraArc seems good, but you said precomp is not supported anymore? So does that make UltraArc not very useful? Or is there a newer UltraArc with Xtool somewhere?

yasitha 27-12-2018 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrushev (Post 478015)
Is there an all in One tool that is up to date (I ve seen a few old ones that dont use new inflators or compressors) that will do all this for me?

UltraArc seems good, but you said precomp is not supported anymore? So does that make UltraArc not very useful? Or is there a newer UltraArc with Xtool somewhere?

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