...yes i did...
 

I did... did you happen to see any sort of direct links to the topic(s) being disscussed in the mentioned posts?

@Doomer
Errr, I only asked? ;)

My bad... I'm sometimes a little... grumpy...

@Doomer
hehehe, its ok. ;)

You have my vote, no SF for me either.

New writing here (not reading). My vote for "No to StarForce"

No Fu**ing starforce for me either.............Can some one send a link to this thread to the guys who are responsible for making the starforce.

I am sure these guys which are making star force are the crackers them selves and instead of cracking these games for free (Which they have been doing for years) they are now making money off the big companies like UBISOFT as they kjnow each and every thing about cracking/hacking and they know how anyone would be able to over come the protection.

First, rest assured, they are reading this forum. Second, as the saying goes, "thieves become the best policemen" (see Catch Me If You Can with Tom Hanks and Leonardo DiCaprio for an example).

AHHHHH So true...Great film

As a rule I dont buy SF protected games and I warn every gamer I know about the danger the SF drivers pose.

As for taking it to court it wouldnt be much of a trial:

Lawyer: You work for <insert game publisher>?
Witness: Yes.
Lawyer: SF protection was intentionally included?
Witness: Yes.
Lawyer: Did you research it first?

At this point whether the guy says yes or no the game company is admitting to criminal negligence =P

If they researched it and failed to warn the consumer = guilty.
If they didnt they failed to ensure their product was safe = guilty.

Contractual limited liability clauses dont apply to criminal cases only civil torts brought by the consumer :cool:

But you're viewing the situation from the wrong point of view! Suing Starforce's ass off when the copy protection breaks your PC is relatively simple, especially, if a few unlucky gamers unite and act against Starforce as a group, not only as several individuals. ("Corporate lawsuit", is that what this is called? Yes, my law English sucks, too!)

The real problem is proving that it was Starforce - and nothing else! - that broke your PC. That's why they're so eager to find people that can potentially show this to them...!

i wont buy any starforce protected games from now on
the last was popt2t

they are russians and as far as i know russians are one of the most skilled hackers.
am i wright?

Damn right, sir, but I think the Chinese hackers are getting closer and closer! :D

A real STARFORCE DOOZIE!
 

I bought the 2005 Re-Release of "Lock-on" for my Sim loving son on Christmas. Originally released by Ubisoft. This "New release" is by "EVOLVE" games and is sold as "LOCK-ON GOLD" its supposed to be the same original game + the inclusion of "Flaming Cliffs" on a 2nd CD. Well we ran the install...clicked on the new icon and a "STARFORCE" window popped up stating that there was an error and could not find the CD (Naturally it was in the tray) I did have Dameon 3.44 running in the taskbar but with no Image loaded. So I disabled Daemon tools...then I rebooted just to be certain that memory was clear, clicked on the Icon..."Boom!" Same error! So I told him I'd mess with it later (I Know a few tricks...) then I told him "Look play the original Lock-on until later when I come back and fiddle with the new install...Clicked on the old install icon (Been running fine for over a year) and guess what? The original install was invaded by the Starforce error too!! So the Gold install rewrote EVERYTHING!! Now both versions wont run. And now there is a starforce option to generate a uploadable report! Complete with a E-mail adress that requests you send it in!!! So how is that for being taken over!


Ed