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Muyfa666 08-01-2006 05:17

Yea, is he asking something or trying to explain something?

GLH 08-01-2006 05:18

@newgoodman: Bye, Bye!

Anti669 08-01-2006 06:12

Man, I've got a headache now from trying to read that post...

Muyfa666 08-01-2006 07:01

I re-read newgoodman's post to see if I could understand anything at all of it, but I swear, he talks like Yoda - in Gibberish...

qrpiech 08-01-2006 07:05

pop3 censorship
 
hi all. i was browsing my pop3 folder today and discovered 2 quite interesting things (my version of pop is eu dvd):

1. file "POPData.bf" - there is a section "region" in it (default emea), maybe messing withit could help with uncensoring the game?
2. (which is more interesting) in file "Hardware.ini" there is section "UseBoneSplitting" which is "0" by default. maybe changin it to "1" would help with decapitation?

im not able to check if anything happens after messin with this 2 files because i cannot restart my comp and disable ide drives right now. could someone try it and write if it works? please... :P

nINJAkECIL 08-01-2006 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkwpk
Yeah thats the point the NF3 owner dont even need to disable the ide channel, Also is your hard drive PATA or SATA?

Does PATA or SATA hard drive got any involvement in StarFucker things?? I got a SATA hard drive and I don't have to unplug my DVD drive, but my friends who has a PATA hard drive has to unplug his DVD drive to play the game. and why is it that NF3 owner doesn't have to unplug the drive??? could you explain it please???

nINJAkECIL 08-01-2006 07:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkwpk
Now guys, I have seen every one who have a NF3 chipset based mother board, doesnt require to unplug the optical drives if he or she wants to play through DT. Can anybody confirm this. I have got NF4 and it doesnt work with me either.

try this: make an image of the game using alcohol 120% and then mount the image (if you got CD, make 3 virtual drive using alcohol, and mount all 3 images), install the game, dont type the serial yet. shut down your PC, remove your DVD/CD drive, turn on your PC, disable all alcohol virtual drive and start using daemon tools 4, make 1 DT4 drive, mount the CD play image (CD3), and type the serial but dont play the game yet. after you type the serial, shut down your PC, plug your DVD drive back to your system and start your PC, if the CD3 image is stil mounted using DT4, now you will be able to play PoP:T2T without removing your DVD drive, like I did.
hope all OK!:)

neptun 08-01-2006 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by nINJAkECIL
Does PATA or SATA hard drive got any involvement in StarFucker things?? I got a SATA hard drive and I don't have to unplug my DVD drive, but my friends who has a PATA hard drive has to unplug his DVD drive to play the game. and why is it that NF3 owner doesn't have to unplug the drive??? could you explain it please???

The newer versions of starforce ( 3.5 and 3.6 ) are trying to communicate directly with IDE controller and reenable the disabled optical drives and this is the reason software disable ( through device manager or SFNightmare ) donīt work for most people anymore for this new versions.It looks like the IDE controller used in nvidia chipsets is strange enough for starforce so the protection can not reenable the disabled drives and for many people having nforce motherboards software disable still works.The best situation is for nforce3 chipset where sometimes is not even necessary to disable drives.The type of your harddrive does matter but i donīt know how exactly this is involved.

Anti669 08-01-2006 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by qrpiech
1. file "POPData.bf" - there is a section "region" in it (default emea), maybe messing withit could help with uncensoring the game?

I think PoPData.bf relates only to menu text - in any case, changing the region here makes no difference. There's also a region setting in the registry, which makes no difference either.

I'm fairly positive the difference is in the PoP3.exe. This file cannot be modified because of the Starforce protection. Replacing it (along with the Starforce files amir.exe and amir.dll, and the game disc) with the US version seems to be the only way to uncensor it without cracking the Starforce protection.

Of course, you don't have a US disc... and neither do I...

So I'm just waiting on a (working) US mini-image.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rage2k
I have my selfmade USB DVD-DL-Burner and its perfect!

You built your own DVD burner? I'm impressed...

nINJAkECIL 08-01-2006 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by neptun
The newer versions of starforce ( 3.5 and 3.6 ) are trying to communicate directly with IDE controller and reenable the disabled optical drives and this is the reason software disable ( through device manager or SFNightmare ) donīt work for most people anymore for this new versions.It looks like the IDE controller used in nvidia chipsets is strange enough for starforce so the protection can not reenable the disabled drives and for many people having nforce motherboards software disable still works.The best situation is for nforce3 chipset where sometimes is not even necessary to disable drives.The type of your harddrive does matter but i donīt know how exactly this is involved.

But I don't disable my DVD drive via any software or sfnightmare, I just use DT4 to mount the image. I think it has to do with what you said that the IDE controller in nforce3 is strange enough to confuse the starfoce...
anyway thanks for the info...;)

Anti669 09-01-2006 07:46

Alright... Having well and truly waited the "reasonable" length of time outlined in the forum rules (two weeks), I am officially requesting a mini-image of the US version of PoP:TTT.

As I've mentioned several times, I need it for my EU gore patch... I really, really want to slice some heads off :D.

Is it Starforce causing a lot of problems, or is it just that no one's gotten around to doing it yet? 'Cause King Kong also uses SF 3.6.10.06, and there seems to be a mini-image for that now (dunno if it actually works though...).

EDIT: Downloaded the King Kong mini-image and... it's not a mini-image, just an exe which patches the full image to make it work.

There's a No CD for UFO:Aftershock, which also uses SF 3.6.10.06, but it's for version 1.2, so it's possible copy protection was eased off in a patch due to numerous complaints (wouldn't be the first time...). Does anyone know if any games running this version of Starforce have been mini-imaged?

Muyfa666 09-01-2006 07:54

Censorship is one of the worst thing I know. We REALLY need a uncensor-patch for this game. Hope you'll find a way, Anti669.

Joe Forster/STA 09-01-2006 08:07

@Anti669: I'm also officially informing you that noone from the professional cracker groups visits this forum so your request is just yet another shout into the wind... ;)

qrpiech 09-01-2006 09:01

pop censorship... again :)
 
hi. i've checked my previous advices and i cen tell this:
as for number 1 - messin with "POPData.bf" file (changin region) does the same effect as switching the european exe (5,44mb) with us exe (5,13mb) - starforce checking succeeds but the game wont launch anyway (after starforce window nothing happens at all), so i think that u dont even have to switch european exe at all, just the starforce files.
as for number 2 - bone splitting setting makes no difference for me at all :)

and i've been thinking that maybe switchin "amir" files with starforce other versions (or same versions from games already cra... cooked) would be a good idea?

and finally - censorship in pop really sucks and im really dissapointed with ubisoft's policy (not even a single word from them in this subject). Also that's not the first time they've made their game unplayable for some gamers due to "security reasons". i still remember copyprotection problems with XIII and that they did not respond at all (i had to use a non-official patch (not a crack, a patch to 1.3version) just to run an original game on my computer. hell, 'xcuse me for this offtop :P

LoedD 09-01-2006 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti669
Alright... Having well and truly waited the "reasonable" length of time outlined in the forum rules (two weeks), I am officially requesting a mini-image of the US version of PoP:TTT.

It's impossible to create mini-images for Starforce3, SecuROM7, and Safedisc4.6 games


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