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GunBlade
21-11-2001, 04:29
I just tried some sort of a swap trick and suddenly my PS2 made some sort of buzzing noise and I smelled something burnning!!!
What the ####? Could it be something fried inside my PS2?
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell me what was that smell???????????
Can't smell it from here. But sorry to hear of your trouble. Presumably you were going to try Cheesy's suggestion with an import original.
You've had the PS2 chipped and I hope you have a good relationship with the fitter. But ifirst, take the cover off (he'll have to do this) and look for an obvious area or go to the place with the most burning smell. Also look for something that might have floated around, like a washer.
Keep us posted.
GunBlade
21-11-2001, 07:45
Charlie, Good intuition! I WAS trying Cheesy's thing, only not with the action reply, but with the DVD Region X (Thought it might work).
Anyway, I haven't opened the cover yet, But the smell faded out fast and the Console is working. Is there any chance it would work if something is wrong?
Thanks.
Pleased that PS2 works now. I'd still open up and have a look as I advised. If there's no obvious sign to alarm you (and a burn smell location would linger for a while), then it is possibly OK. But I can't give you definitive advice that the PS2 is OK.
As a guide, in my (don't rely on it) opinion, 5V circuits don't produce a burning smell; it would have to draw more current than the mains could supply. 50V and upwards can.
GunBlade
21-11-2001, 09:41
Could this smell be caused by a spinning CD when the tray opens up and the CD still spins fast on the tray?
GunBlade (21-11-2001 17:41):
Could this smell be caused by a spinning CD when the tray opens up and the CD still spins fast on the tray?
My son reminds me that a couple of months ago, we had a similar scare. When we investigated it appeared that the power supply unit (which is external on our Jap PS2) - the glue had melted that holds the box together. We left well alone as it was extewrnal to the PS2. It may well be that you play with your PAL PS2 horizontal and the glue in the internal PSU (it is internal isn't it?) has also melted. Do open up and have a look.
GunBlade
21-11-2001, 12:38
Open the PS2...
How many layers do I need to remove, and how do I check if something actually burned?
I think you need to expose the power supply unit and sniff around there. If you're cool that it works, then fine - let it go. If you need to know, open it up, have a sniff, note what you need to, screw it back together.
GunBlade
22-11-2001, 11:04
You're the man, Charlie, Thanks.
Hi,
Just to add on from what Charlies has said, be very carefull when taking your ps2 apart the reset and power button ribbon cables are verly delicate and can break easierly, and you can find yourself in deep sh*t.
Just take your time is my best advice and only take apart stuff you really need to.
Cheers
Dal
GunBlade
22-11-2001, 14:00
Thanks Dal, But I've decided not to open the PS2 at all. I haven't had any problems since the... Ahem... Incident, so I figured that I shouldn't try and deal with it.
I'd be happy to hear what you think, tell me if I'm doing right or should I open the PS2 anyway?
Hi,
If its not giving you any more problems then DONT open it. I had my PS2 on all day last week in the office and after a few hours there was a slight smell, nothing to worry about NEW electrical goods which are on for long periods of time do sometimes pong. Ive had a new pc monitor stink for the first few days of use before it was okay, at one point i thought Dell had given me a free dead cat in my monitor caseing LOL.........
Chill Matey.
Dal
GunBlade
23-11-2001, 16:56
Man, nothing compares to that eerie feeling a person has while realizing he or she has a dead cat in their monitor... lol
Anyway, can something be damaged but still work partially? like the sound component, or the graphic component?
GunBlade (24-11-2001 00:56):
Man, nothing compares to that eerie feeling a person has while realizing he or she has a dead cat in their monitor... lol
Anyway, can something be damaged but still work partially? like the sound component, or the graphic component?
.... or the feeling that the restaurant has just served the cat up in the curry. I saw an Indian Restaurant in Jaffa a few years ago - didn't see a single cat on the street. Are cats Kosher? Dal asked me to ask you this.
Anyway, open the PS2 and satisfy yourself. It's dead simple but ity's something like this based on my PS2:
1/
Turn PS2 upside down with the back away from you and the power to your right rear. Remove the rubber covers from th screw holes named below.
2/
Undo the middle rear and right hand rear screws
Undo the four screws on the lip below the underside
3/
Turn the PS2 right way up so that it faces you horizontally as if for play. Carefully lift the cover up from the left and hinging to the right (where the disk is). You'll see the ribbon cable that DAL mentioned but it won't be in any danger if you do everything slowly.
4/
The power supply is at the rear to the left. Sniff around there or look for melted glue. Look anywhere else that could get hot (it won't be the DVD drive so I shan't excplain which screws to take out there).
5/
Satisfy yourself, wash your hands, put the thing back together again.
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GunBlade
24-11-2001, 04:22
Charlie, can you answer the second question please? I really don't wanna open the PS2.
I do'nt definitively know. I can only advise on the basis of probability. The 5V/12V compontns would only be electrically damaged as per burning smell if there was a surge from the main power supply. So I doubt that there are any low voltage components that are damaged. That's why you shuld either ignore it (as per Dal's words) or satisfy yourself that it was just glue settling near/at the power supply.
Without liability, I doubt that there's anything further wrong now. If in doubt take the PS2 back to your #####r.
Gunblade,
Did Cheesy's suggestion work?
GunBlade
24-11-2001, 18:44
Well, I haven't tried it again since the... ahem, incident...
GunBlade
25-11-2001, 07:27
Well, I opend the PS2... I can't believe I did that.
I mean, I'm opening computers all the time, but opening the PS2...
Anyway, I haven't found any problems, no smell, no melted glue, no nothing.
The thing is, as comferting as this might be, I have a real problem.
I first noticed it a couple of days ago playing "Shadows of Memories", but now I played Time Crisis 2 (Both games original) and I noticed this problem again.
When some sounds are played, there's a distortion sound, really strong one, but only for specific sounds.
It happens for loud sounds mostly, but never happens with music, which makes it really strange.
I tried connecting the PS2 to another TV - Same problem.
The distortion is really annoying (Happens on every volume level) and prevents a clear sound for the specific sounds I'm talking about.
Could this be an PS2 internal sound component problem?
I'm panicing here, so please answer fast...
If you have an identified irregularity, tae the PS2 back to your #####r with the game concerned. Let him prove it out on his PS2 and then if the sound is OK on his PS2 he can fix yours.
There's no more I can do than advice this.
Are you going to try Cheesy's trick?
GunBlade
25-11-2001, 08:47
That's a small problem I have with the retailer...
I installed a chip! which means - Warrenty Expired!!!
Do you have a practical suggestion of how to check this myself?
Thanks.
P.S - I'm NOT going to try Cheesy's suggestion because of the following reasons:
1>I don't have Action Replay.
2>I don't have any DVD-R's yet.
3>After what happend, I don't think I'll ever try that again.
Sorry - no. I have no idea of the internal circuitry of the PS2 board from that point of view.
My son is a treasure. Rather than just walk away from your problem I consulted his experience about sound problems. Not discounting that something's gone wrong in your PS2, he says that he can reproduce the same problem in several games and this is associated with hearing concurrent disk activity - like the next sound is on the next disk sector. Is there an associated disk sound?
M8,
Could it be a faulty scart lead. plug the 2 audio phono leads into stereo that has can output these, and see if you get the same problem, if so maybe try one of my fantastic finds a BLAZE lead which might solve your problem, i have many games now and i have never come across this problem, noisey cd rom YES but not bad sound effects from a video game it must be the lead or the ps2 NOT the game your trying to play.
Cheers
Dal
Dal
GunBlade
25-11-2001, 15:32
Charlie, I don't understand, what do you mean "disk sector"??
Dal,
Well, I tried without the SCART lead, but it still does it.
You say you have many games. Do you have Time Crisis 2? If you do, try loading stage 2, and watch the Stage 2 intro. Right after the big guy smashes his cell phone, the heroes come by car. When the car arrives, I hear the distortion sound. Also, when they get back in the car, the car drives down the mountain and that's when I can hear that distortion really bad.
Can you check out how you hear that?
GunBlade
25-11-2001, 15:35
Another example is when Playing Devil may Cry, in the underwater stage, if you shoot the needle gun a few times in a row then it distorts.
Gunblade, a disk sector is a small piece of information. A lot of disk sectors make up the rest of the information and the sector is the unit of access on the DVD drive of the PS2.
Now you say there's a lot of drive noise. If that's at the same time as your sound distortion, then that occurs because of a sort of data under-run; the next piece of sound doesn't arrive at the right time to maintain continuity.
You might yet have had a problem in your drive (although I doubt it) when you smelt burning. That circuit might be a higher voltage. That's four screws to remove and you could have a look and a smell there.
Finally, are these rented games? If so have a look for scratches and other blemishes. You said that the CDCheck program reported no errors - that's just a guide because it's a different laser etc.
If Dal has the time to play through to the point you suggested (!!!)
GunBlade
25-11-2001, 16:07
Charlie!
Wow, that was a fast answer :)
Anyway, No. There is no sound (not nothing unusual anyway) from the CD drive. Only from the game.
The CD's are not rented, so I think that's not the case, because there are no scratch marks.
Oh man, what could that be? It's killing me to think I'll have to exchange my PS2.. It could take a freakin' month!!!
GunBlade (26-11-2001 00:07):
Charlie!
Wow, that was a fast answer :)
Anyway, No. There is no sound (not nothing unusual anyway) from the CD drive. Only from the game.
The CD's are not rented, so I think that's not the case, because there are no scratch marks.
Oh man, what could that be? It's killing me to think I'll have to exchange my PS2.. It could take a freakin' month!!!
I sit here in the UK just waiting for your next post! We'll wait to see if the very kind DAL is able to come back with anything. I think his Time Crisis 2 may be a rip (it is DVD isn't it?).
And you could look into the DVD drive - but we do seem to be moving towards taking the thing back to your #####r and getting his advice (unless he is useless and doesn't have a qualified geek that does modchips etc).
Did you put a capcitor in anywhere when you fitted your modchip?
GunBlade
25-11-2001, 17:10
Well, I'm not the one who put my chip.
What's a capacitor?
Going back to the retailer is really out of the question. Now that I have a chip, who would agree to even consider helping me?
GunBlade
26-11-2001, 06:02
Did you guys forget me?
We're awfully sorry - but we had to get some sleep after tirelessly considering your problem and trying to help you out (LOL). Please forgive us just this once.
I think we've pretty much exhausted the possibilities of remote diagnosis. Just like you were under a misconception about playing import backups, you're probably under a similar misconception about your PS2 #####r. They live in the real world, they fix things and might um and ah about it (to gain a few more dollars out of you), but they usually have standard calibration tests they can perform to get to the bottom of the problem. The wealth of experience at the Forum hasn't been able to help you beyond advice given by myself and DAL.
So, back to you and let us know how you get on.
My Lord,
DAL has communicated with me praying that I should crave your indulgence to read his words of support and endeavour in your time of great need.
"p.s. if u can let gunblade know ill have a look on time crisis 2 and devil
may cry tonight for those dodgey sounds etc etc. I can't post
on the fourm at work which is a shame i can only view"
Be assured, my Lord, that DAL is as dedicated as I to your cause as our existence would otherwise be worthless.
Your obedient servant
GunBlade
26-11-2001, 07:21
Man, Charlie, You're a very kind person. People like you are rare on the net. I appriciate you answering me.
I'll wait for Dal's result. I'm really curious now.
Lads,
AND THE RESULTS ARE IN
JAP - Time Crisis 2 - Plays fine no sound problem
PAL - Time Crisis 2 - Plays fine no sound problem
NTSC Devil May Cry - Plays fine no sound problem
Please note these are DVD RIPS and play on my PAL version 4 ps2 with the NEO2.2 mod. I also use a BLAZE scart lead which goes through my Dolby Pro-logic sound system, onto my widescreen Tv
I cant find any sound faults with these games, like i say i have quite a few games so post me some more to try.
Sorry Gunblade, i think your ps2 needs to be sent back and replaced, is this an option??
Cheers
Dal
p.s. Charlie thanks for putting that bit from my email to Gunblade talk to ya soon
GunBlade
26-11-2001, 18:04
I don't think I can replace the console.
I already chipped it, so I guess I'm screwed.
Unless you have a solution for that?
Anyway, I appriciate you checking this for me, Dal. Thank you very much.
But I guess I was destined to have a screwed up console after it took me so long to manage and buy one.. Argh!!
One of the things that often need doing when a modchip is fitted is recalibration of the laser. In another reply I've pointed to a site that will help you do this. It will do no harm. My laser was recalibrated when the OrigaChip was fitted.
Hi,
That could sort your problem out, does the ps2 play music and DVD movies okay???
if it has problems playing a DVD movie then the lazer needs sorting.
Dal
GunBlade
27-11-2001, 15:03
Well, DVD's and Music CD's are working perfectly.
Even game music and several voices works perfectly, but there are certain sounds this happens to me with.
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