Info: X3 Terran Conflict 2.1 (tages update) [Archive]

Dopemaster

12-06-2009, 20:34

Beware .

If you like playing without disc in drive for the legitimate reason to protect
it from usage wear and for personal convenience, then dont update to 2.1
cause u will not be able to use image/mini image any longer.

Any useful information on new solutions concerning this are welcome.

No CRACK TALK please.

RecoNet

13-06-2009, 00:11

Can somebody try (i dont, have a time right now (for reinstall ;p)) backup the TC 2.0 exe file ... -> install patch -> (backup patched file;p) put 2.0 exe on 2.1??

Srry mooooornig ;p
And where is the magic ?? ;p

RecoNet

13-06-2009, 00:54

Oki...i have something like temporary solution...
Dwngrade Your game to 2.0a
Copy X3TC.exe and dvm.dll, install 2.1 and replace :)
I have changes like Crystal Fab. L, etc ;)
But i think that changes its not good for a game ;p
sorry. i speek a bit of english :(

Blazkowicz

13-06-2009, 01:08

Then you are mostly playing 2.0a RecoNet.
I guess they updated Tages to 5.5.7.2.

EDIT: Yes, they have.
EDIT2: Full image still working (created with latest DT Pro)

RecoNet

13-06-2009, 02:53

I have Win7 and SCSI doesn't work yet :/
But I've played for several minutes and i must have less Crystals for the HUB ;) but v. is corectly 2.0a.. sh ;P

Blazkowicz

13-06-2009, 04:13

I'm talking about vIDE and latest DT Pro and not about Win 7.

RecoNet

13-06-2009, 04:48

Pardome ;p vIDE ofc ;p
in 64bit OS cannot have? ;p install this :) DT Pro ofc but not vIDE...
32bit enjoy ;)

Dopemaster

13-06-2009, 07:10

Downgrading may screw up your traders eventually cause there are some changes and a downgrade will cause a mess.

I have invisible wares in my trader that fill up cargospace and cant be deleted.
Using remote best sells i can at least determine that they are there...eg . 37 units of unknown objects...but they are not sellable and not ejectable from ship either. Have to sell ship and move pilot to free up space again.

Recreating full image is confirmed working meanwhile but for that u have to have dt pro advanced latest version. Most probably your traders will remain buggy though since the saves are affected by the first installment of 2.1...then downgrading and upgrading again...

VIDE works in x64 for a long time already. I suggest you go and buy DT Pro advanced instead of using a old version ^^.

6The6Beast6

13-06-2009, 11:05

I found this on a russian site:

Ставим патч 2.1 Качаем отсюда
http://rapidshare.com/files/244079678/X3_Terran_Conflict.zip.html
Там 4 файла.

Seems to be the patch for 2.1??? Someone verify. I cant got to much work
the file contians
X3TC.exe
dvm.dll
1 image

Joe Forster/STA

13-06-2009, 12:39

Your link is now obsolete...

6The6Beast6

13-06-2009, 13:59

2.1 Solution
Im doing the upload it to megaupload right now. The say it is was made for a russian 2.1 and maybe should work for other games. (I hope the link lasts cause I have no account)
Megaupload:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1JRFRD9X

Dopemaster

13-06-2009, 19:34

file dates are from January/february 2009 i severely doubt that this is
thrustworthy.

DABhand

13-06-2009, 19:43

As far as I know the patch came out just recently, you say no crack talk then you are trying them O_o :P

So only thing you can do is wait for new DTpro or Lite to be released or wait for a crack.

RecoNet

14-06-2009, 05:51

I installed everything from scratch with the 2.1 update
I have no problem with 2.1 with X3TC.exe and dvm.dll from 2.0...
also in main menu i see 2.1 ;)
But i do not see treasure hunter missions for now... generally works :)

Sorry for the confusion
I play on Win7 x64 and i can not have vIDE in this time... I must wait for update :/

fluffy981

14-06-2009, 13:06

Download 2.1 patch and install it. Use Daemon Tools lite latest edition and YASU tools also latest version and works perfectly. I started treasure hunt mission today. Good luck playing ;).

Dopemaster

15-06-2009, 20:01

As far as I know the patch came out just recently, you say no crack talk then you are trying them O_o :P

So only thing you can do is wait for new DTpro or Lite to be released or wait for a crack.

I didnt post any crack numbnut.

wolfsrain

16-06-2009, 01:58

One: there are no cracks for X3: Terran Conflict. So I don't know if he can try a crack....
Two: any fan of the Egosoft games is aware of their policy - Egosoft always removes through a patch the protection from their released games. Sure it takes time, but as Egosoft mentioned, the protection is there just to keep the 0day piracy at bay and to protect the initial sales. After an year or two (depends on vary things), the protection is removed by a patch released by Egosoft. The 2.1 patch was made to mainly add some nice mods done by the gaming community (Egosoft always supported their mod community and always introduced some of the best mods through packs and patches) and to tweak further the game. As there were many complaints with the 1.5 game, many of the fans of the game considering that the patch destroyed any chance for a faster paced game, patches 2.0 and 2.1 were cranked out, both patches being based on the community feedback. Also the US version got out relatively recently (end of April and that version was already updated at 2.0). So updating the protection to protect their sales in US makes perfect sense. I expect that at the end of this year or in first half of 2010 to see Egosoft removing the protection. If you read the official game forums, you will see the statements of Egosoft staff mentioning the protection removal later on in quite a few statements.

The official announcements from Egosoft about the copy protection:

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=216279

TippeX

16-06-2009, 04:25

I didnt post any crack numbnut.

think its time u watch your manners and read the rules...

DABhand

16-06-2009, 05:16

I didnt post any crack numbnut.

Like TippeX said read first.

I didnt say you posted any crack, numbnut. I said you were trying them after saying no crack talk yourself. numbnut.

:P

djsolidsnake86

22-06-2009, 23:18

fluffy981

26-06-2009, 09:32

don't work for me with this solution!

Well could you explain what did you do? Do you use YASU correctly, did you copy it in DaemonTools folder and started it?

djsolidsnake86

02-07-2009, 09:43

yes

siegdubhy

02-07-2009, 12:00

Download 2.1 patch and install it. Use Daemon Tools lite latest edition and YASU tools also latest version and works perfectly. I started treasure hunt mission today. Good luck playing ;).

So ya, doesn't work for me either. Tried it with DT Lite 4.304 and YASU 1.6... tried also with DT Pro 4.304... (sooooo, is YASU 1.6 the newest version? Couldn't find a newer one...)
I understand Egosoft's policy with stopping piracy at the start but... come on, all that could be pirated has already been pirated :P

Joe Forster/STA

02-07-2009, 14:14

Here's the YASU support forum: http://forum.daemon-tools.cc/f40/ But hasn't YASU been integrated into Daemon Tools lately?!

siegdubhy

03-07-2009, 04:41

Actually my mistake, the DT Pro version I used was 4.305, and from what I'm reading about YASU if it isn't integrated into DT yet then it might be incompatible with the newest DT version yet... and since stuff changed with DT I can't use older versions -_-

fluffy981

03-07-2009, 08:49

Ok here is what i got and it works: YASU v1.6.9040 + DAEMONT Tools Lite v 4.30.3.0 + Windows xp proffesional service pack 2

Try with this versions and tell me does it work pls.

siegdubhy

04-07-2009, 03:14

Nope :/ Didn't work either... BUT, the problem might be the game image I've made... I have it in MDS MDF... I could try converting it to ISO or something... What image are you using?

smunisto

04-07-2009, 04:17

Hey, I've been reading the topic for a while and I registered to give you some tips on how to run the game.
So - the proposition for YASU + DT was great. It works for me aswell, but it took me some time to figure out the order in which you need to do the things.
So here's what works for me:

1.Software versions: YASU v1.6.9040 + DAEMONT Tools Lite v 4.30.3.0
2.Mount your original image into Daemon(mine is *.mds). The mini images do not work.
3.Now run YASU. It's important to run it AFTER you've mounted the image.
4.Click the "Cloak" button.
5.Start X3:TC.

siegdubhy

04-07-2009, 08:38

Ya, tried it this way... still no luck :/ I'm guessing I don't have to enable any options (like SecuRom and stuff) in Daemon Tools?

[Psych]

04-07-2009, 08:52

Is YASU even necessary. It isn't for tages stuff on mine... just works.

siegdubhy

04-07-2009, 09:00

Just making sure, we are still talking about the 2.1 patch, right?

bakerM

04-07-2009, 09:12

smunisto : I followered your intructions to the letter and it does NOT work for me .
I AM talking about the 2.1 patched version. ( maybe my image is no good? )
but it does work fine even without YASU on X3TC v2.0 .
just NOT working for 2.1

Blazkowicz

04-07-2009, 13:06

There is no need for YASU or any other tool, just recreate your image with latest DT Pro.

smunisto

05-07-2009, 04:23

Actually after last night I realised the way of running the game that I described doesn't work...always.
It seems that it runs randomly, but around the 20th try. I tried restarting and cloaking with YASU, and sometimes the game starts, but not very often. So I am giving up on the Terran Conflict until a proper...lets say "tool" is released, or until the next patch, where hopefully TAGES will be removed.

EDIT: Update 06.07. - I got nerves of steel, so I'm playing the game. The way I start it - I spam the X3TC shortcut icon with the original img in the DT virtual drive and YASU running(dunno whether it's needed at all) until 10 or 20 instances of the .exe run simultaneously. Then I just start clicking "Ok" when the "Insert the original CD" error pops up and eventually - after 10-15 errors the game launcher starts. It can piss you off big time, but If you're so desperate to play X3TC that's the way to run it :P

siegdubhy

06-07-2009, 18:19

I got nerves of steel, so I'm playing the game. The way I start it - I spam the X3TC shortcut icon with the original img in the DT virtual drive and YASU running(dunno whether it's needed at all) until 10 or 20 instances of the .exe run simultaneously. Then I just start clicking "Ok" when the "Insert the original CD" error pops up and eventually - after 10-15 errors the game launcher starts. It can piss you off big time, but If you're so desperate to play X3TC that's the way to run it :P

!!!!!!! O_O... You my sir are totally insane... and it's scaring me... but I believe you have succesfully cracked the new TAGES :D I thank you!
So basically you just need to use the old method "try to click it untill it works", trully it might get quite annoying in the long run, especially if the game feels like crashing often, but then again it IS working so all is good.

PS: How the hell did you come up with that solution? :D (really, I'm very curious :P)

Dytexx

07-07-2009, 02:20

after 10-15 errors the game launcher starts

So instead of just inserting the Original game disc, which you surely own, you prefer to click 15 times on an icon. Inserting the Original game disc, which you surely own, must be a real chore to you. When you bought the Original game, which I am sure you did, haven't you thought about the fact that inserting the disc is such a chore?

smunisto

07-07-2009, 02:38

PS: How the hell did you come up with that solution? :D (really, I'm very curious :P)

A day off work + girlfriend busy at work + boredom + thunderstorm outside.
You'd be surprised by the amount of usually-annoying-things that seem so interesting in such a day.

@Dytexx Actually yes, I do own the original game, the game DVD is inserted into my laptop. Sadly, my cousin borrowed the laptop(and with it the game DVD) while on a 2 month visit in Germany:(

nando2002

07-07-2009, 03:07

LOL... those 15 clicks on the executable increase the processing making the TAGES drivers when checking the virtual drive think it's a real DVD drive and accept the image.

There are freeware programs out there called "RightMark CPU Clock Utility". It let's you adjust the CPU & Throrttle speed - this is similar to the 15 simultaneously clicks.
Google for more help about X3 & this utility.

siegdubhy

07-07-2009, 03:26

So instead of just inserting the Original game disc, which you surely own, you prefer to click 15 times on an icon. Inserting the Original game disc, which you surely own, must be a real chore to you. When you bought the Original game, which I am sure you did, haven't you thought about the fact that inserting the disc is such a chore?

You see, if people felt like inserting the disc this thread would never have existed. Some can't insert it coz they lost it, some just never had it and some have other random problems, so ya, I'm thankful for that solution, and I'll try that CPU Clock Utility later today ^^ Also, it takes me exactly 19 instances to launch it and I'm doing it on a X2 3.1GHz, I wonder how people with faster quad cores fare with that :D

Joe Forster/STA

07-07-2009, 03:55

You see, if people felt like inserting the disc this thread would never have existed.

Wrong. Not even GCW or this forum would exist. :p

GrizzLyCRO

07-07-2009, 06:15

I found way to do it.
Start multiple instances of x3 tc, when you get first error, dont click ok.
Go to task manager, and check if there is x3 tc exe with 45.616 memory allocated, close all others, that one with 45616 will run.
I just run it 3 times this way.
other two memory numbers were 45592 and 45588 and neither of this wouldnt run. :D
enjoy
works with 45624 too.

Update its easier to run it with loaded cpus, i usually do blender render.
deal is to load cpu then run exe.

DevilLuv

18-07-2009, 15:13

Hey guys, i've just registered to help you guys.

What I did was searched everywhere for new image but couldn't find it. Then i discovered that you can still use the

X3_Terran_Conflict_(NORMAL_tages_MINI_image_by_xKV tor).mds

Just make sure you keep a backup of
X3TC.exe
dvm.dll

before the 2.1 patch.

After the patch copy the files back use the 2.0 files

It works for me without any problem or clicking the exe 15 times lol.

Cheers

Joe Forster/STA

18-07-2009, 15:17

Using files of different versions together may cause strange, unexpected behavior so, no, your solution is not good.

RecoNet

22-07-2009, 07:17

Good ;p I play with no problem ;p

kostiakot

22-07-2009, 08:52

Erasme

04-08-2009, 09:31

DABhand

04-08-2009, 11:00

siegdubhy

04-08-2009, 13:29

Hi! I think I found a solution, it's strange but it works for me.
As usual, after having installed the game and the 2.1 patch, mount the image of the game in the virtual DVD player with daemon tools, then open it and go to: Data folder and double click on X3TC.exe. It may work.

Well, sounds like a nice idea, it even works....... but the game runs from the image, which has the basic version (1.01)... soooooo that plan doesn't really work. :P
Was a nice try tho... and sounded a lot less insane than the working way (20 instances) :P.

wolfsrain

03-10-2009, 23:10

hxxp://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=258911

Read the changelog. No ETA given for the patch yet, but most likely it will be out until December. Egosoft respects again its promise to remove the copy protection after one - two years. They will also re-release the game without a copy protection as they already did in the past with other titles in the X series.

With this being on the way, i think this topic reached its end.

P.S.: patch 2.5 is out. No more CD-checks. Protection removed, bugs fixed and new stuff added to the game.