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Hello,
I just tried the Vitality crack for this patch and is not working :( , the game crashes after you hit the play button in the launcher with no error message. It also doesn't work with DT 4.12.1 + yasu 1.4.7080 + mini-image in gcw, with "emulation detected" error.
But, as in the previous version (patch #2), works fine using DT 4.06 + yasu and with the image provided by Zulu.
Anyone else tried Vitality's crack yet ?
might work with dt pro using the vide drive.. anyone checked this?
guess your only option for the time being is to wait and see if ...
1. people confirm the crash reports with the cracks
2. people report if the game works with dt pro vide
3. another crack appears
i'd check myself but i dont have the game, as i really really really hate the whole sims* series... :)
FM-Staalker
05-03-2008, 08:34
I have a vIDE set-up under DT PRo 4.12, and even with YASU 1.4 and the mini-image you get the emulation error after 1.3 update.
The crack file by Viatlity doesn't work either.
I have the original disk, so no worries, but it would be nice to not have to start disk swapping again.
Cheers.
Blazkowicz
05-03-2008, 10:14
Could you scan exe with latest ProtectionID Public beta plz? If it's SecuROM 7.36, then both DT Lite and DT Pro are blacklisted.
EDIT: It's SecuROM 7.36.0007, try Daemon Tools 4.06, that version works with SecuROM 7.36.0007 at least for Frontlines - Fuel of War at my computer.
Do you guys have the multi2 version or the multi22 version?
It doesn't work on the multi22 version,I wish they made one for that version :/
It doesn't work on the multi22 version,I wish they made one for that version :/If you're talking about that (http://fileforums.com/showpost.php?p=353550&postcount=3) one: it is for MULTI22.
Don't know what it depends on, but for some DT 4.06+YASU does not start SCS after Patch#3.
I'm talking about the no cd cracks
Hitman-tlb
06-03-2008, 12:12
Well, it works fine, u just have to use the orig exe when updating and then replace with Vitality 1.3 exe when done, and u're guys are AOK to go ;)
Hello,
I just tried the Vitality crack for this patch and is not working :( , the game crashes after you hit the play button in the launcher with no error message. It also doesn't work with DT 4.12.1 + yasu 1.4.7080 + mini-image in gcw, with "emulation detected" error.
Anyone else tried Vitality's crack yet ?
Same here, the crack doesn't work, game crashes when you hit the play button without any further notice, gcw image doesn't work either, issue with emulation software stated.
FM-Staalker
06-03-2008, 22:37
Well, it works fine, u just have to use the orig exe when updating and then replace with Vitality 1.3 exe when done, and u're guys are AOK to go ;)
Wrong. I had the original exe, because with patch 2 you could use the mini-image in a vIDE drive through DTPro with YASU 1.4 and it would launch without the emulation conflict, so when I patched it was to the original exe.
After patch 3, the mini-image no longer works, in addition the Vitality crack also doesn't work. This has become a popular trend with Vitality laterly, releasing crackst that don't work.
I had to go with a Reloaded crack for Soulstorm because theirs crashed.
As I said, I have the original disk so it's not THAT big a deal, and I'm not going to install an older version of DT just too make it work. But people should know what to expect, and so far I haven't found anyone who can get the crack to work without rolling back to DT 4.6
Here it runs without Problems: Clean install, Patch 1.3 and no CD Crack!
OS: German Vista Ultimate.
Greetings, 007
After patch 3, the mini-image no longer works, in addition the Vitality crack also doesn't work. This has become a popular trend with Vitality laterly, releasing crackst that don't work.
I had to go with a Reloaded crack for Soulstorm because theirs crashed.
I don't understand why would someone go thru the trouble of making cracks that don't work. I see that vitality have a history with that.
Joe Forster/STA
07-03-2008, 08:09
All groups have a history of non-working cracks, due to the lack of testing that results from the constant race to release cracks as soon as possible. "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." ;)
Hitman-tlb
07-03-2008, 08:12
Wrong. I had the original exe, because with patch 2 you could use the mini-image in a vIDE drive through DTPro with YASU 1.4 and it would launch without the emulation conflict, so when I patched it was to the original exe.
After patch 3, the mini-image no longer works, in addition the Vitality crack also doesn't work. This has become a popular trend with Vitality laterly, releasing crackst that don't work.
I had to go with a Reloaded crack for Soulstorm because theirs crashed.
As I said, I have the original disk so it's not THAT big a deal, and I'm not going to install an older version of DT just too make it work. But people should know what to expect, and so far I haven't found anyone who can get the crack to work without rolling back to DT 4.6
Well, only thing ican say that my method worked par excellence here, and almost everytime alll vitality's cracks works fine also.....btw os : Vista Home premium. ;)
Well, we have two persons with the Vitality crack working, both in Vista. I'm using XP SP2. Maybe the crack is not working in XP? :confused:
FM-Staalker
07-03-2008, 10:53
I am using XP2 as well, so perhaps that is the issue.
All groups have a history of non-working cracks, due to the lack of testing that results from the constant race to release cracks as soon as possible. "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." ;)
I'm not doing that, it doesn't work at all. This horse doesn't even have a mouth.
simdude, cracks come 'as is' without ANY guarantee they will work, the sooner people understand that the better, but unfortunately people will still bitch and complain if a crack won't work so you just can't win.
Joe Forster/STA
08-03-2008, 11:43
@simdude: There were times when some software didn't load its components at all on my C64. Then I realized that it expected the disk drive to have device number 8, while mine was set to 9. "Not at all" in this case was equivalent to "not with some configuration setting".
Crackers obviously don't release cracks that don't work at all. And, again, don't whine if something that you got for free doesn't work as expected; instead, be grateful when it does.
FM-Staalker
08-03-2008, 14:51
Okay, look. I may be unique in this aspect, but I wasn't whining or bitching about it not working. Hell, I have the original disk to use. I was trying to let others know, as well as the crackers, that the file wasn't working. Since I obviously am not alone in this, as so far I haven't found anyone using XP2 that can make it work, I would expect it to be something they would be interested in.
I hear Vitality talk shit all the time. Read the NFO files that come with their cracks and software hacks and see. They constantly put down other groups. Hey, I used to work with some of the other groups, so I know what the scene is like. However, in a period of 48 hours I saw them release three cracks that didn't work, but they still wanted to talk shit about others who put out cracks just like them.
I have no issue with that, in fact, I don't care who says what. But if they truly want to talk smack and get respect for what they do, they should be interested in correcting the mistakes they make. If they aren't, fine, but don't go talking your shit about others.
I give them props for correcting the Soulstorm crack, the new one works great...but truthfully, the Reloaded was working fine before they even released the broken one. And I also show my gratitude for their services.
Still, the issue with the SSC crack isn't a rare few, it's everyone I have talked to. Visit the various torrent sites and DL lists that have the Vitality crack for SSC, you'll find tons of comments about it not working.
Something is wrong with it. Letting them know is a good thing, no? Isn't that really what this place is for? Get off your high horse and quit trying to defend a mistake. They made one somewhere, and even if they won't fix it or care to try and fix it...the point is, it should be made known that a mistake was made. Not to insult them, but to warn others who will try to use the file.
Now, as for the crack. It isn't a "Configuration" issue. I have four PC's in my home, and three at my office. All different set-ups, but the one thing they have in common is they are all using XP2. The crack WILL NOT work on ANY of them, and yes I spent the time installing the game and the patch to see, hoping that I could find something in my "game" machine that was off.
Maybe XP isn't the issue, but I have yet to find anyone with XP who can make it work. You really want to call that a "configuration" issue?
In addition, many of the cracking crews these days don't have the games they crack for. They just open the executes and remove the protection code. You can do that without ever opening the game up. Problem is, when something goes wrong...like this case...you don't know it until you release it and hear about it.
I'm not saying that is what Vitality did, but you can't win with an argument that Crackers obviously don't release cracks that don't work at all.
Truth is, that is EXACTLY what they have done, and more than once this week in fact. However, they did correct the Soulstorm issue as well as another. This one they haven't fixed yet.
Peace.
Joe Forster/STA
08-03-2008, 15:02
Having a specific version of Windows on your PC really is a configuration issue. (Remember cracks that worked only on Windows XP but not on Windows 2000, while the original game officially supported both. The expression "configuration" might not be appropriate in this case but, you see, neither is "not at all".)
Also, if you think that professional crackers are visiting this forum and will listen to you complaints... well... :)
I managed to try it out on Win Vista 32 as well.
This is what I found:
>> on Win XP SP2 - it doesn't work no matter what I do. Kick it, curse it, throw the computer out the window, it just won't work. :mad:
>> on Win Vista 32 - it works. :eek:
The Vista however does pop up a window saying due to an issue with Vista and video memory you may need to install this update http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=940105 before it lets you play. :confused: You need to hit OK to dismiss the popup window and the game kicks in. But that might deppend on your hardware configuration, wether or not you get the notice.
Now, that doesn't help me since I use Win XP on my computer, but if others want to try it out, have Vista for this crack.
At least they should mention it's for Vista only :( when they put it out.
FM-Staalker
09-03-2008, 00:06
I wasn't complaining about the crack. I also know that the crackers don't read the board. However, as I said, others should know it doesn't work...also, word DOES get back to the crack team. Other cracks they have released and then fixed later proves it. It may not come from THIS site, but it does happen.
Do you have KB917422 installed? That caused some games to fail if I recall!
If SP2 is up to date though it may have been updated so that point is moot!
acal3000
09-03-2008, 07:38
Microsuucks put so many padlocks on Vista than locked it's own users. I have lots seen Linux Distros more easy to get access premission that on that user get root than pile of crap OS. In terms of gamming more games once that could get install andt he installer didn't those stupid problems installing for the need on an admin account when really was an admin account for me generally worked well. I didn't see so many compatibity problems with games like for example from 98 ot XP before the service packs. Of course there was some on my collection that didn' wokedon vista but other worked better than xp did for me. But in other terms the OS piece of scrap. Lots of BSOsds. Some games that didn't validate the original cd when I was really putting the original cd until I used no cd cracks when on Xp did it. Some other when try to validate the cd just did BSOD and restarted.until used no cd too One time some guy i know bring his computer to fix some things. He accidentally put in the startup some utilty from windows for people with disabilites he course didn't need and slowndowd the computer . The easy on XP was just renamming file (coz i couldn t find in msconfig.exe and services in administrative tool to quit from starttup) but this Vista thing has now some thing called ownership in of it's system files that didn't let me rename the nasty program even you are the admin of the system. I had to boot in safe mode use some ridiculus command in the dos mode just to the the ownwership of that file and rename it. Man when i saw that I felt like M$ though were the owner of our own machines: Man I just dumped that crap and moved to Linux. I can't play many play games as can do Windows of course. But lots more stable no BSODs no restarts installing any stupid program coz registry crap. The perfomance is better when watching videosl/listen music or opening a lot of programs like that crap of windows media player . I don't need to downlad a bunch of codecs just to get flvs video work or other formats. I can modify a bunch of things internally that bunch M$ idiots don't let coz it's closed source and customize more what I want.I guess one of downfalls of Vista was that slow development in all: Took ages get released (more than 5 years). IE7 took too to much, started other web standards in other browsers (like Firefox or Opera) that made look iE as thing of the past. Direct X10 it's time you can't yet lots games programmed for it. Those guys neeed to not the delay the service pack1 more If they don't want more people downgrade from Vista to XP coz I know several that have done that. i mean it seems going to be released on April. if not maybe they will give themselves with foot again if there is another delay. And even with the Service pack sure will a lot to fix. I read on some news that the new beta SP made things fast but made slow others. But well can't be atken as still a final result since it's still not finished
No luck in XP SP2 with all the windows updates installed here :(
Microsuucks put so many padlocks on Vista than locked it's own users. I have lots seen Linux Distros more easy to get access premission that on that user get root than pile of crap OS. In terms of gamming more games once that could get install andt he installer didn't those stupid problems installing for the need on an admin account when really was an admin account for me generally worked well. I didn't see so many compatibity problems with games like for example from 98 ot XP before the service packs. Of course there was some on my collection that didn' wokedon vista but other worked better than xp did for me. But in other terms the OS piece of scrap. Lots of BSOsds. Some games that didn't validate the original cd when I was really putting the original cd until I used no cd cracks when on Xp did it. Some other when try to validate the cd just did BSOD and restarted.until used no cd too One time some guy i know bring his computer to fix some things. He accidentally put in the startup some utilty from windows for people with disabilites he course didn't need and slowndowd the computer . The easy on XP was just renamming file (coz i couldn t find in msconfig.exe and services in administrative tool to quit from starttup) but this Vista thing has now some thing called ownership in of it's system files that didn't let me rename the nasty program even you are the admin of the system. I had to boot in safe mode use some ridiculus command in the dos mode just to the the ownwership of that file and rename it. Man when i saw that I felt like M$ though were the owner of our own machines: Man I just dumped that crap and moved to Linux. I can't play many play games as can do Windows of course. But lots more stable no BSODs no restarts installing any stupid program coz registry crap. The perfomance is better when watching videosl/listen music or opening a lot of programs like that crap of windows media player . I don't need to downlad a bunch of codecs just to get flvs video work or other formats. I can modify a bunch of things internally that bunch M$ idiots don't let coz it's closed source and customize more what I want.I guess one of downfalls of Vista was that slow development in all: Took ages get released (more than 5 years). IE7 took too to much, started other web standards in other browsers (like Firefox or Opera) that made look iE as thing of the past. Direct X10 it's time you can't yet lots games programmed for it. Those guys neeed to not the delay the service pack1 more If they don't want more people downgrade from Vista to XP coz I know several that have done that. i mean it seems going to be released on April. if not maybe they will give themselves with foot again if there is another delay. And even with the Service pack sure will a lot to fix. I read on some news that the new beta SP made things fast but made slow others. But well can't be atken as still a final result since it's still not finished
argghhhhhhhh my eyes! they burn at the large paragraph!
hehehe :P
In addition, many of the cracking crews these days don't have the games they crack for. They just open the executes and remove the protection code. You can do that without ever opening the game up. Problem is, when something goes wrong...like this case...you don't know it until you release it and hear about it.
Impossible.
It would be like looking for the preverbial needle in the large haystack.
I installed the game on my Desktop - with both Systems just for testing.
On XP Pro SP2 = no go
On Vista 32 Bit Ultimate = runs without any problems! :D
By the way, the Microsoft Patch 94105 is a important patch for Vista with nVidia GPUs, so you should install it.
Greetings, 007
Impossible.
It would be like looking for the preverbial needle in the large haystack.
have to agree there, to crack anything you usually need the entire package, with earlier protections all you might have needed was the exe+dll's, nowadays its still probably possible, but would require a lot of skill, which doesn't seem to be there in the scene recently...
back in the days, there were even cases where you have to play the game the whole way through to make sure you got 'everything', i doubt things changed that much...
to 'remove' the protection as stated you usually need a mini/maxi image to even get the executable to the original entrypoint (unless you had another method, and there were very few people who worked in that 'area'... )..
so, really @FM-Staalker - you dont know what you're on about :)...
FM-Staalker
09-03-2008, 11:48
I did say I used to be in the scene, and it has been quite a while....so, having outdated knowledge doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about. It just means that it isn't useful anymore.
But to play on your point, I have seen games out the day of retail release with the crack already on the iso. You really think they are playing through these games the whole way through in a day or so? Most of the crackers I know have full time jobs, but I guess these days it could be done by people who don't.
Still, it isn't impossible to remove protections schemes from games without ever installing it. It just takes the proper software. Sure, it doesn't work as often as the other way around, but then again many of the cracks I have seen lately would make you think this is the way they are doing it.
It depends on which protection module the game has, but that should be a given.
Either way, I don't want to argue about who does what. In fact, I am not even the OP. I just added that it wasn't working on XP2. Hopefully someone else will find a fix for xp, if not--oh well.
acal3000
09-03-2008, 23:52
argghhhhhhhh my eyes! they burn at the large paragraph!
hehehe :P
Sorry I was bit tired the other night to make the correct punctuations
I did say I used to be in the scene, and it has been quite a while....so, having outdated knowledge doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about. It just means that it isn't useful anymore.
But to play on your point, I have seen games out the day of retail release with the crack already on the iso. You really think they are playing through these games the whole way through in a day or so? Most of the crackers I know have full time jobs, but I guess these days it could be done by people who don't.
Still, it isn't impossible to remove protections schemes from games without ever installing it. It just takes the proper software. Sure, it doesn't work as often as the other way around, but then again many of the cracks I have seen lately would make you think this is the way they are doing it.
It depends on which protection module the game has, but that should be a given.
Either way, I don't want to argue about who does what. In fact, I am not even the OP. I just added that it wasn't working on XP2. Hopefully someone else will find a fix for xp, if not--oh well.
I'd say it only works with less than 1% of them.
You need the full game and protection available to unwrap the executable, dump it, find the oep, fix the import table etc
You cant do that with just a protected exe on its own. Sure there was unwrappers floating about but even that isnt enough. They need the media to find where the checks are etc.
Im guessing you used to be a curry and only heard stories.
Sorry I was bit tired the other night to make the correct punctuations
No need to apologise acal, I was having a laugh with you :)
FM-Staalker
10-03-2008, 11:38
Ah, I see the problem. You misunderstand me.
I didn't mean to suggest they didn't have the full game, only that they didn't have it installed on their machines. Some actually do that, but most that I ever worked with just dumped the disk to the HD and worked on it.
I know of two people currently who never test their cracks, they just "know" they work. Sometimes they don't, though.
Anyway, it doesn't even matter. This crack is vista only, and perhaps it should be listed as such on the site?
heh this is reminissent of the old cracks that only worked on xp due to that SetLastError or something import... any cracker worth his/her salt should test their cracks... they should also check new versions of the protection and see what might be possibly different... of course there are 'race conditions' ...
FM-Staalker
13-03-2008, 02:26
As an update, the mini-image YASU combo was suggested to work with DT 4.06. I couldn't get it to work.
SSC uses Securom 7.35.0008, and that is rumored to not be blacklisted by DT 4.06. I was told it does work with a full image, however, and so I will believe that.
I didn't test it because I have the original disk, and I didn't want to waste drive space with a full image.
But for those who have no choice, you might give 4.06 a try if you have it available.
Cheers.
download this "mini image" -> http://www.sendspace.com/file/4s0wb0
(( source -> http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=83068 ))
1- Apply the 3 patch of SCS
2- no need to replace the .exe (leave the original)
3- mount "mini image" (1.66Go) with dt 4.06, and use YASU
4- launch the game.
works fine on wxpsp2
apparently it doesnt work for everyone...
Hitman-tlb
14-03-2008, 10:21
Well, for all u guys, Vitality has released fix for this now, all systems should be AOK now ;)
gta3freak_2001
14-03-2008, 17:13
download this "mini image" -> http://www.sendspace.com/file/4s0wb0
(( source -> http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=83068 ))
1- Apply the 3 patch of SCS
2- no need to replace the .exe (leave the original)
3- mount "mini image" (1.66Go) with dt 4.06, and use YASU
4- launch the game.
works fine on wxpsp2
Thank you I can confirm this does work with Patch 3 although pretty redundant now that the vitality crack has been updated.
FM-Staalker
14-03-2008, 19:08
Thanks to Vitality for the fix!
Can we close this thread now then ;)
hope so, or we can move it to the 'we have no life' thread ;p (i 100% hate the sims, my views are not reflective of the forums or the other mods.. they're purely personal... so sorry to any of the women / kids / sims players offended by my comment... which is 100% true ;p)
Joe Forster/STA
15-03-2008, 13:37
Agreed, killing each other in a multi-player FPS or winning in a racing simulator results in a much higher moral and mental satisfaction than replaying life in a simulator... :p
Is that you saying that or your other "human" controller who is playing you in a game of life on his computer.
Ooooh the conundrum of it all.
Better hope hes not one of those who gets bored easily and decides to Leeroy you into a baying mob of angry girls and mothers who love the sims :P
The Vitality fix released on the 14th still doesn't work on XP SP2, in my case at least.
Just some feedback, not complaining, heh.
With the new updated version of the 1.3 crack, the game does start in XP-SP2 but then the computer locks/freezes/crashes every 10-15 minutes or so. :mad:
Behaviour wich is not justified by anything else :confused:, so I suspect it's still something wacky with the crack. On Vista it works flawlessly, as far as I can tell, so it has to be something with the XP compatibility again.
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