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Alien Firefox
16-02-2007, 16:15
Copying safedisc and securom protected dvds with alcohol using RMPS emulation

With the release of v. 1.9.6.4629 of alcohol it is now possible to make RMPS emulation copies of safedisc protected dvds as well as securom protected dvds.

The method is the same (and new users should note that there are no datatypes to select when copying dvds with alcohol as they are unnecessary).

The method is simple. It is as follows:

Simply click on the image making wizard with the dvd to be copied in the drive. Check the options for "Skip read errors" and for "Data Position Measurement" and set Precision (for dpm) to "High" from the drop down box.

After you click next, a pop-up box will ask you for the dpm speed you want to use. Select "Max" and proceed from there.

Once the image is made, click on the image burning wizard and load the image you've just made from the .mds file. Click next and then select your burning speed and check the option for "Burn "RMPS" to recordable media. Then click Start to commence burning your image.

Note that the burnt dvd will require RMPS emulation to be enabled in alcohol (or Daemon Tools) emulation options for it to work.

Note also that it isn't presently possible to make a working back-up copy of a safedisc or securom protected dvd that will work without emulation because of the inability of dvd burners to write dvds in raw mode.
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danielchamp17
23-02-2007, 08:40
please why i cant loog in i have user but it tells cd-key incorect please help me please:( :mad:

please help me !! i cant play batt 2142 please help ! it seas me (incorect cd-key ) please help me hrere i find a good cd-key ?? thx a lot

Joe Forster/STA
23-02-2007, 10:24
@danielchamp17: Have you read the forum rules?!

Bebeoix
23-02-2007, 10:51
yes but the crack no cd for 1.20 bf2142 not working because we cant connect the account !

Joe Forster/STA
23-02-2007, 11:59
This is a crack for single player mode; it won't help you to play online (multiplayer mode) without the DVD...

-HeX-
23-02-2007, 20:36
Guys, forget about playing this game online without having an original copy. If you buy the game you can create ONE valid account to play online (One account per valid CD-KEY), is not the same thing as it was with Battlefield 2 anymore. After you have an account you can play anywhere, maybe with a non valid cd key too and a mini-image but im not sure. The only solution if you don't have an account is to use the crack from razor to play single player, lan or online via Hamachi. The crack from razor just avoid the game to get to the internet to check the account, so once the game thinks that there is no Internet available, it lets you play single or lan mode. Of course all this with the pre-created profile from the razor release of the game.

And sorry for my english :rolleyes:

Bebeoix
24-02-2007, 04:06
Battlefield 2142 v1.20 SP [MULTI15] Fixed EXE

its for multi ! but its not working in multi !

we cant connect the account... ea!

wolfsrain
24-02-2007, 05:25
Battlefield 2142 v1.20 SP [MULTI15] Fixed EXE

its for multi ! but its not working in multi !

we cant connect the account... ea!
Multi5 means the language supported(5). SO it can usually be: english, french, german, spanish and italian. Just an example. For online multiplayer, you actually need the original, non-altered copy. That's why everybody is asking for the mini-image.The mini-image it's not making changes in your folder(the cracks are modified files, so they will be detected by the server protection; mini-images can be mounted in daemon tools, getting the game started, without being detected). What you need for online gaming is one ORIGINAL serial number and one mini-image who won't alter the files on your HDD.

Alien Firefox
24-02-2007, 12:16
try my trick

use a backup dvd

it will work

guarenteed


copy it exactly as i said in my post

YourMomsCűnt
24-02-2007, 21:20
Just For You Joe a violation of Rule # 8 -=BUMP=-

kruemel
25-02-2007, 02:21
Hi to the forum!!

First thing i want to say,
IīAM THE OWNER of a ORIGINAL Battlefield 2142-DVD, bought it last month in a shop!
So iīve a valid key, a legimate account at EA-Battlefield, and play it all time online.

But it peeves me to put alltimes the DVD inside the drive when i want to play!
Let it inside the drive is not a good solution, because everytime you open the windows-explorer, the drive will beginn to run for a few seconds, totaly nerved

So i try to get a solution to avoid putting in the DVD into the drive everytime i want to play.

Iīve searched in the internet, and found a pach, Battlefield 2142 v1.10 SP [MULTI15] Fixed EXE at GCW, worked very well, and i was totaly satisfied!!!!

But then EA-Battlefield released the new patch 1.20
Now it was necessary to get a new patch to avoid the problem again to take in the DVD to the drive.
I tried Battlefield 2142 v1.20 SP [MULTI15] Fixed EXE at GCW, but it doesnīt work so good as the Battlefield 2142 v1.10 SP [MULTI15] Fixed EXE did.
Now unfortunately itīs not possible to play the game online, because i canīt get a connection to the server! :-(


While searching for solution, iīm ended up here in the forum


Now Iīve read a lot, but i did not found the working solution to play Battlefield 2142 ONLINE without the DVD inside the DVD-Player. :-(
Perhaps there is a solution, and i did not understand it? (my english is not very good,īiīm over 40 years old and shool is a long time ago, sorry!)

I tried to make a immage with A120 and load it in Vdrive,but that didnīt work

Perhaps is there anybody who can teach me how to play without the DVD into the drive anytime??

Remember, iīm the legitimate owner, with registration and valid key, only want to avoid loading the game every time at the drive.


Thanks to everybody who answers

Joe Forster/STA
25-02-2007, 04:52
The 1.20 update was released only a few days ago and cracks don't grow on trees. I suggest you read forum rule #6.

kruemel
25-02-2007, 06:37
Thanks Joe!!

I read the forum rule #6,
but it seemed to me that the Battlefield 2142 v1.20 SP [MULTI15] Fixed EXE at GCW would be the patch for the new release of BF2142 patch 1.20.
Perhaps i didnīt understand the different, becuse Battlefield2142 is really the first game i play on computer!
So i never bevore was confronted with those "problems" and have no experience with them/it

But if i understood you right, it would be possible in the future to get a well working patch to play the game online again without loading the drive.
Till then iīll have to load the drive

Krümel

Bebeoix
25-02-2007, 10:43
kruemel , i have exactly the same problem !
ps: iam french

Alien Firefox
25-02-2007, 14:48
fixed exe wont work online

fixzed image not available

so you'll have to use my trick

use a backup disk

kruemel
25-02-2007, 21:09
fixed exe wont work online

fixzed image not available

so you'll have to use my trick

use a backup disk

Hi Alien Firefox!
I think you mean i should make a backup disk with A120?

But i donīt understand the trick! :-(
Isnīt it so, that then i also have to load the backup disk in my drive??? That wouldnīt be a different to me. I mean loading the original, or loading the backup, itīs the same to me. I wonīt load a drive!
I have no experience with those things, so perhaps iīm a littel bit stupid with it to understand, sorry.

But iīve tried to make an immage of the original with A120, version-1.9.5.3105. Then i load the immage in the virtual drive of A120, by using RMPS, but it doesnīt work!

@Berboix:
Perhaps the trick of alex works and we didīnt understand it right!
If not, we all have to wait for resolution, till that the only way is, to play with the dvd into the drive
Not a really problem, but much peeving

Have a nice day

Zulu
26-02-2007, 04:23
Check the options for "Skip read errors" and for "Data Position Measurement" and set Precision (for dpm) to "High" from the drop down box.Not needed for Safedisc DVD ;)

I think you mean i should make a backup disk with A120?
That's what he is talking about

But iīve tried to make an immage of the original with A120, version-1.9.5.3105.
Alien Firefox wrote: "With the release of v1.9.6.4629 of alcohol..."

Then i load the immage in the virtual drive of A120, by using RMPS, but it doesnīt work!
RMPS emulation is ONLY for burned media, not for images.

kruemel
26-02-2007, 08:41
Not needed for Safedisc DVD ;)

That's what he is talking about

Alien Firefox wrote: "With the release of v1.9.6.4629 of alcohol..."

RMPS emulation is ONLY for burned media, not for images.


Hey Zulu!!

I think i understand the trick now.
To do what Alien Firefox says, it would be possible to play with a backup-disk by emulating it in A120, i think that is what you mean?
But this was not my concern, because it makes no difference (to me) between loading the original or loading the backup.
Both options have to load a disk into the dvd-drive every time i want to play, right?
But exactly that i want to avoid!
I donīt need a backup, i only want to play without the dvd into the dvd-drive because it peeves me, not more.

Iīll try to make a immage with the newest A120-Version_ 1.9.6.4719 and loading it in the v-drive.
Perhaps it works, iīll tell you!

Thanks!
Krümel

Zulu
26-02-2007, 10:07
Iīll try to make a immage with the newest A120-Version_ 1.9.6.4719 and loading it in the v-drive.
Perhaps it works, iīll tell you!
That won't make a difference in vDrive; i was only refering to a burned copy :(

If Y.A.S.U. 1.07 and Pr0t.St0p 1.1 don't work for you with a mounted image try deactivating optical drives in device manager instead (better deactivate the whole IDE port if HDD with boot partition doesn't share same port)

Alien Firefox
26-02-2007, 12:11
using a backup disk atleast then your not using the original.

@zulu rtms is needed mate

without it it wont emulate

Zulu
26-02-2007, 13:15
@zulu rtms is needed mate

without it it wont emulateRMPS is needed, agreed. But DPM isn't :p

When burning a Safedisc image (and only then) you can burn RMPS to media (not greyed out) without having performed a Data Position Measurement before - in contrast to Securom or other CPs for which a DPM is essential

omgwtfbbq
02-03-2007, 07:43
so, theres still no mini-image or whatsoever? Ive got the original Game ..

Cant someone send a request to RELOADED ? :P Theyre really good hackers ..

Muji-FightR
02-03-2007, 12:28
Why don't you send them a letter ? You can find their email in the NFO so go ahead and try ;) lol
Do you think they actually care ?

btw It's not hackers but crackers

omgwtfbbq
02-03-2007, 14:13
crackers are more like, yeah u know, doing with drugs ..

Joe Forster/STA
02-03-2007, 15:11
If you don't know the difference between hackers and crackers then, as usual, Wikipedia is there for you to read...!

Grumpy
02-03-2007, 19:43
Wikipedia is there for you to read...
lol, its probably where he got the idea that:
crackers are more like, yeah u know, doing with drugs ..

Wikipedia is a good source of info but it cant always be 100% trusted. ;)

After all I could say, 'A cracker is a dry (savoury) biscuit which you eat with cheese or dip', and a 'hacker is someone who does not do a very good job with anything they attempt to do, like a non professional tradesperson etc'.

If people are prepared to believe my two examples above then Wikepedia could pick them up as being fact.

Alien Firefox
04-03-2007, 06:08
a hacker pentrates into systems adds or removes data

a cracker cracks passwords and protections and all that kind of stuff

Bebeoix
04-03-2007, 06:22
lol ok, but i have the same problem, the last no-cd for bf2142 1.20 not work in the multi...

have you a tut for make mini image of bf2142 DVD for it work with 1.20 ?

Alien Firefox
04-03-2007, 06:33
jesus i told you

at the moment a mini image cant be created

everyone has tried


the only why is to make a backup dvd

with alcohol

i've already stated how to do it

its still a disk but beats using the original

blackmitch04
04-03-2007, 07:38
So Only what you can do is making a backup dvd.

I Have installed Alcohol 120 but in which format do i need to burn it???

Alien Firefox
04-03-2007, 10:52
it doesnt matter

+ or - means jack shit

just follow the instructions i wrote in here and you'll have a working backup

blackmitch04
05-03-2007, 07:58
Copying safedisc and securom protected dvds with alcohol using RMPS emulation

With the release of v. 1.9.6.4629 of alcohol it is now possible to make RMPS emulation copies of safedisc protected dvds as well as securom protected dvds.

The method is the same (and new users should note that there are no datatypes to select when copying dvds with alcohol as they are unnecessary).

The method is simple. It is as follows:

Simply click on the image making wizard with the dvd to be copied in the drive. Check the options for "Skip read errors" and for "Data Position Measurement" and set Precision (for dpm) to "High" from the drop down box.

After you click next, a pop-up box will ask you for the dpm speed you want to use. Select "Max" and proceed from there.

Once the image is made, click on the image burning wizard and load the image you've just made from the .mds file. Click next and then select your burning speed and check the option for "Burn "RMPS" to recordable media. Then click Start to commence burning your image.

Note that the burnt dvd will require RMPS emulation to be enabled in alcohol (or Daemon Tools) emulation options for it to work.

Note also that it isn't presently possible to make a working back-up copy of a safedisc or securom protected dvd that will work without emulation because of the inability of dvd burners to write dvds in raw mode.
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So you mean this one?

Zulu
05-03-2007, 09:41
the only way is to make a backup dvd with alcohol... or to mount a full image (+deactivating optical IDE drives) ... or to read/burn with Blindwrite 6 (Be aware that Blindwrite's emulation driver EZ-Play is blacklisted by Securom since version 7.27, so before starting new Securom titles deactivate EZ-Play)

Alien Firefox
06-03-2007, 02:30
disabiling anything on my computer is forbidden

thats percisely why my computer in in prime condition

when u start disabling things you start encountering problems

Alien Firefox
11-03-2007, 18:57
yes

that one

StreetSlick
15-03-2007, 14:47
Hey Guys can somebody upload the
EA Downloader 2142 exe cuz the one
that was posted is no longer
working

THANKS guys:D

btw I have an original CD key and everything
completely legit

bazookatooth
28-03-2007, 01:00
is it possible to install nothern strike that you purcahse through ealink and then not have to use the cd anymore?

greyhavens49420
10-04-2007, 14:44
Does anyone know if you can use GameDrive or VirtualDrive to make a working image of Battlefield 2142? I am so sick of having to put in the disc over and over again. I dont need to be able to burn it just have it on a virtual drive.

grey out

Zulu
11-04-2007, 02:06
@greyhavens49420
As mentioned before in this thread you have to deactivate your real optical IDE drives in device manager before being able to start the game in any virtual drive. If deactivation in device manager doesn't work, one could try SFNightmare 1.12 for that (DON'T play around with that tool):

- Mount image
- in SFN: Disable CD (Processing may take a couple of seconds)
- Play
- after playing, in SFN: Enable CD !! (never forget that before reboot/switching off)

BTW. i had BF2142 over the last weekend, and surprise, surprise :rolleyes: : IMHO a Maxi Image can't be done for that title, and if it's however possible, it would be veeery big.

tdbone1
28-04-2007, 08:25
im all in for the request for an image also.

cant figure out why bf2 has one and bf2142 dont...

buy yea put my vote down for a yes to an image if its possible

Dr_Spielmann
29-04-2007, 22:22
The "disable DVD drive - reboot - mount in Daemon" technique works for me too, just as genes|s said, and exactly the same way. Bit of a nuisance, but at least I can play without my DVD on the drive. I made the image myself with Blindwrite from the original DVD, and I am no expert, so I guess pretty much any image will work, providing that you have an original cd-key to play online with.

Don't mess around with No-CD cracks as it will be impossible for you to play MP with a cracked EXE. It's been said millions of times, but some people don't seem to realize yet. Punkbuster will check, and will know your EXE is not 100% correct.

Hope someone comes up with a mini-image that works, but i've also read that it's impossible so far. Sigh!

oratio
09-05-2007, 01:05
here is a working no_DVD-fix. enjoy. Thank god for the russians.

http://file007.mylivepage.com/chunk7/88721/73/BF2142_noDVD_v.1.25.rar

Megaschwanz
11-05-2007, 01:47
Use Virtual CD v8. I play with full Image and it works (Virtual CD, no iso)

Alien Firefox
12-05-2007, 11:38
theres a 1.25 multiplayer fixed exe on gamecopyworld

i suggest you check it out

works good

Talus
28-05-2007, 17:50
I upgraded my motherboard, CPU, RAM and hard drive today and now my mounted image won't work for BF2142. So now I'm 'one of those people' who simply can't get the image to work without disabling something.

This fixed exe on gamecopyworld...there is NO way that this thing steals keys or gets picked up by punkbuster or anything?

I tried using the EXE from my EA Link copy, but no luck...

Alien Firefox
29-05-2007, 06:42
if you use the mp 1.25 exe file off gcw it'll work wonders

i use it and had no issues

its only the ea link and a modified dll file to make the server think its the same.

or something like that anyways

anyways hell download it and check it out

Talus
29-05-2007, 14:16
Ok thanks!!! I will certainly use it! I just wish I could use my own EA link version's files :(

Alien Firefox
30-05-2007, 11:42
if you have ea link then why would you need the fixed exe

ea link connects to the ea website and scans for a code and varifiees it if valid the game launches and f it aint the game shuts down

why do u need a exe file then

Talus
05-06-2007, 05:10
I have both versions. I have the DVD version on my main machine, and I bought the EA Link version for LAN play on my secondary machine.

All I did to solve my problem was to copy all of the files from the root of my EA Link version over to my main machine, then renamed BF2142Pace.exe to BF2142.exe and VOILA! No more DVD :) (and EA Link doesn't even load :D)

There must have been a couple of files I needed other than the exe and swiffplayer.dll

qualitycontroller
22-08-2007, 08:10
can someone find me a new no dvd patch for version 1.40 the new update they released as it has none yet i believe. or explain how i could revert my version back to 1.25/ maybe by unpacking an old image somehow? and using those files with a 1.25 no cd<---would this work

Joe Forster/STA
22-08-2007, 11:20
1.40 is a beta patch; wait for a non-beta release.

fIVENINE
23-08-2007, 16:17
yesterday i bought a cdkey for bf2142 from hongkong on an ebay store - it obviously came with nothing else. questions:

1- is it illegal to DL the game and install using my cdkey?
2- what patch do i take it to?
3- should i use the GCW 1.25 no-exe

4- in other words how do i run the game (LOL) - I thought it would be the same for BF2 - its what i did for that game too.

Joe Forster/STA
23-08-2007, 17:13
Interesting, as you should've received the game in a downloadable form as well. Your "purchase" seems to be, at least, suspicious if not downright illegal. Contact the publisher instead; this forum is not for such pruposes.

fIVENINE
25-08-2007, 04:46
what if they say sorry illegal sale - sucked in? whant to try something else first. any answers to q's 1 and 4? Had no idea it was illegal since i did pay for a unique cd key - that worked - tried that v1.25exe for about 2 mins b4 punkbuster.

Joe Forster/STA
25-08-2007, 05:48
Yes, I can also go to the flea market and buy original looking CD's/DVD's for cca. 1/10th the price of the original. (They might even came with unique CD keys... created by a key generator, available somewhere on the Net.) Sorry, your purchase doesn't prove anything. Again, contact the publisher; such fishy operations are not well tolerated on this forum. Thank you!

fIVENINE
27-08-2007, 02:15
you said - (They might even came with unique CD keys... created by a key generator, available somewhere on the Net.)

didnt know that a keygen can create working online keys!

i did pay for a unique cd key - that worked (online).
Just for ur info.- i bought keygen - installed with friends disks - ran game - went online played for a bit - all working good - friend took discs back home with him and now i cant start the game - thats why i wrote the post - If the cdkey was keygen'ed it even bypassed EA account !!

So back to my post question 1 is now over answered!! thanks for your help but let it go! If its illegal let me deal with that with EA -

Im NOT trying to get a cracked BF2142 to run- I just need that game to start ok? - I could just use a nocd if that was the case

I doubt everyone here bought the game for the same price - some more expensive when it first came out, or the ppl that bought it for alot less when the game became old - presumably it would be cheaper if all the 'package' contained a online Genuine unique cdkey, instead of discs,box manuals packaging etc... Ur concerned that i may have paid less than what u did?

Grumpy
28-08-2007, 01:29
@fIVENINE
Just for ur info.- i bought keygen

Have you read our Forum Rules? (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=54193)

Rule #1 states:
Warez means not having the original CD/DVD

As you do not own an original Disc for this game you are violating our number 1 Rule!!

let me deal with that with EA

Yes contacting EA is what you now need to do!
Explain to them you do not own an original purchased version of the discs! Explain to them how you got your CD Key.
See what they have to say about the legalities of your purchase! ;)

fIVENINE
31-08-2007, 02:10
1 "bought keygen" - most ppl would understand that it was a typo, meaning cdkey.. duh (whos ever paid for a keygen (ever! really!)
2 warez is not defined by the lack of the CD (oh no! i lost the discs - now my software has become warez!! ) - whats the difference between me owning the dics and loosing them and my situation now?


my questions again...

1- is it illegal to DL the game and install using my cdkey?
2- what patch do i take it to?
3- should i use the GCW 1.25 no-exe

4- in other words how do i run the game (LOL) - I thought it would be the same for BF2 - its what i did for that game too.

ok - in your opinon its illegal to dl the game if i have original key... i get it. thanks for your help on that one, luckily you repeated it so many times for me - almost missed it. Ill take it up with Ebay and EA - thanks again.

SOOOOOO moving on..........

i can presume that you have no idea how to get the game working if all i have is the key?
k thx all you had to say was NO
....

Joe Forster/STA
31-08-2007, 04:14
@fIVENINE: Enough of this! You broke several forum rules and are unable to drop the topic, even after several warnings. You got two months of holiday; this should surely be enough for you to settle things with the publisher. If and when you come back, make sure to read the forum rules many times carefully...!

DABhand
31-08-2007, 05:28
1 "bought keygen" - most ppl would understand that it was a typo, meaning cdkey.. duh (whos ever paid for a keygen (ever! really!)
2 warez is not defined by the lack of the CD (oh no! i lost the discs - now my software has become warez!! ) - whats the difference between me owning the dics and loosing them and my situation now?


my questions again...

1- is it illegal to DL the game and install using my cdkey?
2- what patch do i take it to?
3- should i use the GCW 1.25 no-exe

4- in other words how do i run the game (LOL) - I thought it would be the same for BF2 - its what i did for that game too.

ok - in your opinon its illegal to dl the game if i have original key... i get it. thanks for your help on that one, luckily you repeated it so many times for me - almost missed it. Ill take it up with Ebay and EA - thanks again.

SOOOOOO moving on..........

i can presume that you have no idea how to get the game working if all i have is the key?
k thx all you had to say was NO
....

He knows he broke the rules Joe but looks like he needs clarifying since he is living with Alice in Wonderland.


1. If you steal a game and use a crack = warez
If you own a game and use a crack = not warez.

2. Your CD-Key? I highly doubt it, now where would Mr Hong Kong guy get the keys from? Shops and copy the keys from the games there to sell later (so whoever buys that copy is screwed - yes you are giving money to thieves)

3. Of course people know how to get the game working, but unfortunately we seemed to developed a mind block when you asked, for the life of me I dont understand why.... Oh yeah you dont own the game and its against the rules.

4. And have some cheese with your whine.


Obviously you cant reply to this post, but because you got caught and you didnt even bother once to read the rules, dont try to turn it around as if it is everyone here's fault when it isnt and its your own stupid fault.

Joe Forster/STA
31-08-2007, 08:24
To further explain it:
- To download a game FOR ANY REASON from any illegal site (i.e. NOT a site meant to give you game demos and sell you full games for download) is considered warez on this forum.
- Any game for which you don't have the physical media (i.e. a "digital download" game) is or isn't considered warez... well, this actually doesn't matter at all as you're not allowed to ask for help concerning it on this forum.
- Yes, we jump on the word "keygen", no matter why utterred.
- It is very unwise to push a topic when already two mods told you to stop (and one of them even gave you an infraction).
Of course, everyone should know all these by either applying common sense or simply reading the forum rules (carefully enough), though...

MartY3
14-10-2007, 03:59
can anyone please clarify for me:

is there yet a working mini image for bf2142, im so tired of using my dvd disk everytime i want to play..

thnx in advance

Talus
14-10-2007, 04:21
Nope.

Alien Firefox
17-10-2007, 16:17
geez

the fame

my thread is still going

it all started with a simple request and now this thread has had every discussion and context of the game mentioned.

Bl1nd
18-11-2007, 19:06
I want to clarify something to the mods that banned that guy since he could not explain himself pretty well

Okay first there are some countries like Thailand, China, Vietnam, etc etc where publishers sell LEGIT GAMES MOVIES ETC for a MUCH cheaper price than in richer countries like USA, they do this to try to force piracy out of the market since they offer a legit product for just a little more...

The thing is there is some ppl on ebay that live in those mentioned countries and they sell games on ebay to anybody in the world, some of them even can send u just the CD KEY if u ask them to do it and then they destroy the box, u can even get a PICTURE of the cd key in the box if u want it...

If u think this is still warez ur SERIOUSLY wrong... What is warez? not paying a developer for his hard work when u do all this u ARE paying for the game ur just requesting the vendor to throw the box and just give u the code

The same way u could tell a vender to just send u the discs and throw the box...

Some of us dont live in rich countries like u guys where shops sell all the games, at least in my country is impossible to find games... i gotta buy them all on internet so sometimes i just want to play FAST and i do this too

and ALL MY GAMES are LEGIT

I think some ppl in this forum get a little IRRATIONAL about the whole subject

Joe Forster/STA
19-11-2007, 02:25
We cannot be cautious enough; just to be on the safe side, we consider warez anything that you don't have the original physical media for. Whether or not that is also considered warez in "the real world" doesn't matter because these are the rules on this forum. Period.

Grumpy
19-11-2007, 04:39
@Bl1nd
Okay first there are some countries like Thailand, China, Vietnam, etc etc where publishers sell LEGIT GAMES MOVIES ETC for a MUCH cheaper price than in richer countries
LOL, I once bought the movie Terminator 3 online from a 'shop' in China. Guess what was delivered? A 'Cam' version of the movie!! The Cover of the DVD and the pic on the DVD disc looked real enough but it was a cam version of the movie! A guy even walked past the camera (his shadow was on the movie screen).
I think some ppl in this forum get a little IRRATIONAL about the whole subject
I think some ppl visiting this forum have no idea what they are on about! ;)

Like Joe said, 'we' at fileforums class warez as not having the original disc!

Bl1nd
19-11-2007, 14:47
@Bl1nd

LOL, I once bought the movie Terminator 3 online from a 'shop' in China. Guess what was delivered? A 'Cam' version of the movie!! The Cover of the DVD and the pic on the DVD disc looked real enough but it was a cam version of the movie! A guy even walked past the camera (his shadow was on the movie screen).

I think some ppl visiting this forum have no idea what they are on about! ;)

Like Joe said, 'we' at fileforums class warez as not having the original disc!

I love ignorance... dont u?

Simply put man there is no KEY GENERATOR that could generate a valid key for games like Battlefield, STEAM games, MMORPGs that need subscription etc

THATS A FACT

When u BUY THE GAME ur buying the license it doesnt matter what u tell the vendor to do with the box UR PAYING FOR THE GAME TO A LEGIT SOURCE

IN FACT THE ONLY WAY TO PROBE THE AUTHENCITY OF YOUR GAME IS THE CD KEY

When u talk about online games the only thing that really matters is the cd key, u can have the cds but if u lost the manual with the cd key sticker ur screwed

Simple...

And in the case of battlefield 2142 is even worst because in order to play U GOTTA HAVE AN EA ACCOUNT registered with a VALID CD KEY so if the guy HAS THAT it means HE PAID FOR THE GAME so yes instead of being irrations get your facts straight

And another thing for your information i have bought like this from American shops AND FROM AUSTRALIAN SHOPS yep i used to buy the prepaid codes for world of warcraft from an australian shop...

@Joe Forster Thats being irrational, is like saying yeah the truth is this and the reality is this but we will keep doing it the wrong way and calling EVERYTHING warez...

@Moderators dont lose your time banning me or whatever i wont be back i hate the ridiculous witch hunting in this forum and the exagerated moderation u guys gotta take a relax pill really

Bl1nd
19-11-2007, 15:02
Ahhhh and just to inform u a little about battle against piracy

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/02/27/70359.aspx
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1709267.stm

Lower prices

Analysts in South East Asia feel that manufacturers themselves must also take action to help stop piracy by introducing more sensible pricing policies.

This is something the makers and distributors of computer games in Thailand have realised.

In the past few months, as a result in the growth in the sales of pirated versions, they have begun to reduce their retail prices.

Many computer games are now selling at half the original price, making them now only marginally more expensive than the pirated versions.

The sales of genuine copies of computer games, which come complete with operating manuals, after-sales support and attractive packaging, have begun to rise substantially.

Crysis for example costs 21$ in Thailand... GENUINE

Even Microsoft released a cheaper version of XP for those countries...

BarryB
19-11-2007, 15:58
If you don't have the genuine game media AND a genuine CD Key for a game (if it needs one) then you DO NOT have a legal game by our rules!

Joe Forster/STA
19-11-2007, 16:15
@Bl1nd:

1. Many games can have their keys generated by software that usually comes with the warez release. Perfectly genuine and distinct (nowhere else to be found) keys may turn out to be illegal.

2. If you don't have the original physical media for the game, for a test, how would you install it and run it to see if it works at all with your PC? Or, horribile dictu, take it back to the shop where you bought it if the game turns out to be buggy and/or is incompatible with your PC? On the hand, if that was a "digital download" game, there's no pysical media to get broken so you don't need our help anyway.

So you made no point, after all.

SlayerOfKings
20-11-2007, 01:53
As the above posted has already said, 100% legal copies of games are sold at heavily discounted prices in markets that are saturated by pirated copies.

Shops based in those countries then resell the cd keys online to us westerners, who get a legitimate key at a bargain price.

For example 100% legit versions of Battlefield 2142 (the game this thread is all about!) can be purchased here: http://www.**********.com/product_info.php/products_id/293
For USD$26, about 1/3 of the retail price of the game here in New Zealand. It's basically just parallel importing which has gone on for years, but instead of exporting the physical game they are sending you a scan of the cd-key then destroying it.

And yes many games can have Keygens, but pretty much none of those games can be played online. Can you keygen Everquest? World of Warcraft etc for online play? No, you cannot. Same with 2142, because to play online you have to authenticate to EA if the CD-Key is dodgy they will reject it, or ban the account.

As for trying games before you buy a CD Key, there are many possible options.. Try at a friends, try at a cybercafe, or just plain pirate the game (obviously doesnt work for online games like 2142, you could only play single player vs bots.. very very boring lol)

It may be against your rules, and I can understand with the hordes of noobs I'm sure flood these forums, but the OP's point, and mine are very much that you can have a 100% legal version of a game without having the physical media.

Man that was a huge post for a first post lol.

Edit: Domain for that link is **********, I belive posting this is informative under section 12 of your rules, I dont own, work for, have anything to do with or have ever brought form that site, etc it was just a good example of what I was talking about.

Bl1nd
20-11-2007, 02:56
If you don't have the genuine game media AND a genuine CD Key for a game (if it needs one) then you DO NOT have a legal game by our rules!

Mmm so rules are like stone written? or are they made according the situation and the evolution of situations?

Ill try not to laught at the last sentence hhahahahahahahahaha

U read the stuff u write before u hit submit post?

Your forum rules dont define if somebody has a legal game or not.. there is some pretty clear guidelines on whats legal or not... and there is not a law on any COUNTRY in the WORLD that prohibits telling a seller to throw out the game box and manuals and just send u a code

I know u guys dont allow all the warez talking because u want to avoid legal problems with any of the publishers but not for that reason u gotta be all irrational calling everything OMG OMG WAREZ WAREZ !!!

U guys are moderators not robots that act without any reasoning...

PD: U may wonder whats the reason of my ranting is because ur calling this warez and it isnt, the thing is u guys live in countries where u can easily buy games in retail stores some of us live in countries where u cant find games in retail stores so u gotta buy games online and we do this to save some money on shipping fees (A lot of money if u buy from a guy in Asia)

TippeX
20-11-2007, 03:23
bl1nd - you're going seriously off topic, the rules are rules, simple as that, if you dont agree with them, simply dont come back....

pushing your luck only goes so far, i suggest you calm down, take off your blindfold / blinkers and open your eyes...

Joe Forster/STA
20-11-2007, 05:25
@Bl1nd: Excuse me for my ignorance if I say I don't give a shit about the opinion of a person who has had less than a dozen posts on this forum. You might be a lurker, though... but I assume not because you obviously know very little about how this forum works.

The forum rules evolved for several years, upon suggestions from several (senior!) forum members. (See the history at the bottom of the forum rules post.) As for you not agreeing with them, well, we can live with that. As Asian resellers are doing fishy business - most are downright illegal and only a few are legal (if they are legal at all, selling games and/or CD-keys/serials at a fraction of the original price; does the publisher know about that?!) - we cannot and will not waste time on finding out whether a particular person's particular copy is legal or not. (Remember that you can buy very legal-looking copies of software on flea markets, too! These are the "commercial" pirates that the industry should really be looking after, not "casual" pirates, people who borrow/lend games from/to the neighbor.)

As cracks are still a grey area from the law's point of view, GameCopyWorld and this forum is dancing on the edge of the razor. Therefore, the the forum rules have to not only protect forum users from abuse of other forum users but also the site and the forum itself from abuse of gaming companies. This is the ultimate reason for the very strict forum rules.

If you have reasonable suggestions for changes, contact me; otherwise obey the current set of rules. This discussion is not only off-topic in this thread but also very close to discussing actual warez; if it continues, the thread will be closed.

(Anyone noted that neither I nor the forum rules say that you're not allowed to USE warez, only not allowed to DISCUSS warez?)

Grumpy
20-11-2007, 05:37
@Moderators dont lose your time banning me or whatever i wont be back i hate the ridiculous witch hunting in this forum and the exagerated moderation u guys gotta take a relax pill really
He came back! Twice!! He must love us after all. :D

BarryB
20-11-2007, 17:03
I would think selling just a CD KEY is against the EULA of the game anyway!

SlayerOfKings
20-11-2007, 22:31
Just to get the topic back on track, someone post a working mini image:eek:

Zulu
21-11-2007, 02:23
someone post a working mini image:eek:Hope dies last, but don't you think we would have seen a MI by Poseden & Co if it would be doable ? BF2142 uses similar ISO check sheme as e.g. Call of Duty 4 or Gears of War for which we won't see MIs, too. So this thread can be closed anyway.

Grumpy
21-11-2007, 05:43
So this thread can be closed anyway.
Yep I agree. ;)

Just to refrain...........There is NOT and NEVER will be a Mini Image for Battlefield 2142.

And the NoCD Crack you had been previously using NO LONGER WORKS with the newest update. ;)