Need some help with ASM 'n stuff...

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Hella!

Well, I gotta admit I wasn't even sure if I start this, but here am I, doing it so... DUH! The thing is, I need some help with ASM n coding. Yeah, I can hear the screams "Go read sticky, tutorials, try, never give up..." yeah yeah, been there, done that. Please hear me out. I started this whole business just because a few years ago I couldn't get a crack for my Red Alert II game, and as it was expected, one day I accidentally dropped the CD and scratched it badly. I was still able to play the game, but the install files got corrupted so I was never able to install the game again. Westwood tech support told me that they'll gladly send me a clean one, if I send them my damaged copy, but I couldn't afford the postal fee to the US, so I skipped that part. I got mad and I swore an oath to myself that I will not need to find any crack ever again... I will make my own. So I went to my friends place, fired up Google(At that time I didn't had internet) and gathered as many tutorials and guides on crackig as I could get. I read them and poked around with SoftIce and WDASM, but it was terrible. The bodycount was three messed up operating systems and countless game files. I made 4 trainers though, if only with TMK, and with a weeks work I managed to crack a 20KB program's childsplay serial protection :rolleyes: (though the tutorial said it takes only 2 mins :( ). I can only find tutorials with things I already know(there is a language called ASM) or with things I haven't heard before, unexplained(go find X adress, track into the process, inject code and then program it in VB or ASM that blahblahblah....).

I got so confused, I fed up. The thing is, I need somebody to explain a few things to me. I've been on other boards, but they just laughed at me(n00b lol, you don't know *that*?) I figured you guys here are more helpful than other trolling idiots out there, so I turn to you. Please, someone could help me out here? I know I noob, loser...etc, but still I want to learn the reverse engineering know-how.

If anyone feels like helping me, please do so. Even in PM...

Thans :(

[caki]

http://forum.accessroot.com/ :)

[DABhand]

Well unfortunately, it is read read and read again and try to understand it.


Things grow in complicity, you can start with something easy like a simple cd-check and work your way up.


But knowing ASM in its entirety or close to it is a great start, since you will be debugging alot, it will help to know what the hell is going on.


If you check here, look at all thread from the start, I did 3 tuts to give you the main basics of ASM and what they are etc. And a few tutorials on trainers and how to inject code etc. Worth the read.


Again read read read again until it sinks in. It wont happen over night but it will eventually happen.

[Muji-FightR]

This was pretty much the same here...
To be honest, I always hated people that told you things like 'Read, read and read, and after a few months everything will be clear'... but in the very end this proved to be the best thing you can do...
There is a series of tutorials about reversing, especially made for beginners, even helped me clarify a few things about the PE file format...
It's a movie tutorial collection intended for real beginners, made by Lena151 of SnD...
Dunno if it's legal, here's a link: Click (http://************/pbb27)

Another great site to learn some stuff:
Click 2 (http://cracking.accessroot.com/)
MODS: Please remove if illegal ;)

Hey, good luck, it will take some time, but you'll do it ! Just dont give up too soon...you can even take a break or so, 2 months doing nothing if you cant go on... it's just important you dont give up...

[princcce]

He wants to know how reverse engineering works and he is full of interest but I think after his 6th own crack he willl be disappointed. Cause it´s complicated, costs much time and doesn´t make u rich.:) .

[caki]

Cause it´s complicated, costs much time and doesn´t make u rich.


thats what all hobbies are ;)

[Muji-FightR]

Well, what you eventually receive is ...erm... worth the effort learning it and spending lots of your freetime with it :)
Hey, you actually control programs, decide what they do, dont rely on other crackers and have a good knowledge about Pe file format, how Windows works, what a program looks like IN THE INTERIOR and so on LOL

A GREAT feeling, indeed..
otherwise you would have spent these hours with taking pictures of animals or blooms o.O

BTW, @ caki, I registered at Accesroot board and it just shows me the forum frontend without any subforums, posts, etc...
Same problem occurs at the SND board ?!
"Sorry, but you do not have permission to use this feature. If you are not logged in, you may do so using the form below if available."
And i AM logged in...

[caki]

Weird, just send a mod an email. PM me if you can't find an email address.

[Joe Forster/STA]

By the way, guys, you can never know when knowledge, that you acquired during your hobby, comes handy!

E.g. back at the university, I managed to hack the custom login system at our PC lab so that I can use the individual PC's even if there's some problem with the Novell server that you had to log in to. Once, when a programming competition took place, the Novell server was down, and the only way to make the competition happen as planned was to use my hack. Thus I became a VIP at the administrators... :D

(Okay, that's not much compared to cracking Starforce, though... :))