NFS:Most Wanted Problem!!!!HELP!!

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

Cannot install the game because when i install directX it shows me an error and installation cannot finish...The file tha has an error is DxDiag....HELP>>>

[markkram95.]

I have read this problem before elsewhere!
I think you need to skip the "install DirectX" part and it works.
I did that the first time and have not had any problems since!!:)

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

If i skip the install then i can't finish the setup of the game...

[DABhand]

Well either change the compatibility of the Setup file to windows 2000..


Or on the cd, you will see an autorun.inf file


If you copy the content of the cd to a folder, change the number on the directx line in the autorun.inf to 0

It should skip DirectX install.

[jhuk]

The info is in other threads for this problem, obv you didnt bother to look 1st, explore cd and set install.exe to win 2000 mode thats simplist, i had same problem with demo and full game.

[doomerdgr8]

For setup issues, make sure that AutoRun.exe is set to Win2000 compatibility!
Create a shortcut on your desktop to AutoRun.exe on CD1... set the compatibility on the shortcut... Game should install!

Use latest WHQL drivers on a non-over clocked hardware (GPU)! If over clocked, then be sure to provide proper cooling 'cause this game is going to push the limits...

Also, on Hyper Threaded systems, the game's performance actually goes down... (Sad for me too!). So, use Windows NT Image Configuration Utility v4.0.1381.1… Will only work on NT based OS (Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 2003, Vista/Longhorn)

NOTE: This program has nothing to do with the game's Image... Image here means an application or more precisely, .exe & .com file that is supporting multiple processors...

In our case, we are talking about speed.exe! We need to patch it so it won't use multiple CPUs and believe me, it helps! No more choppy Movies + sudden hiccups during action...

ImageCFG:
Info Page + Download (http://www.robpol86.com/Pages/imagecfg.php)
Google Search term: imagecfg or imagecfg.exe

imagecfg.exe -a 0x1 "C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Need for Speed Most Wanted\speed.exe"

Change the path accordingly...

No HT enabled Processor? No Multiprocessor? DON'T try it then!

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

The game i have is on a DVD and not on Cd's...

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

Well either change the compatibility of the Setup file to windows 2000..


Or on the cd, you will see an autorun.inf file


If you copy the content of the cd to a folder, change the number on the directx line in the autorun.inf to 0

It should skip DirectX install.
There isn't an autorun.inf file in the disk...oh yeah and i don't have the game on Cd's but on DVD...

[DABhand]

There has to be an autorun.inf or the CD or DVD wont auto start.


There is a safemode_inst.exe I think thats a safe mode installer, sorta like if you have problems use this instead.

[DABhand]

Have you looked in the Autorun folder?


There is an autorun.cfg also there, open it with notepad and look for


DirectXVersion=9.0c

Change the 9.0c to 0

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

I didn't found anything in the Autorun folder expect some icons....Oh yeah i have tried to set the autorun.exe for win2000 compability but it didn't work out...I think the game is okay because i tried installing direct9.0c from other games but it didn't work out...so the problem is with direct9.0c,,,,Help!!!

[DABhand]

You cant have a legit version then, mine has the autorun.inf and Autorun folder with the autorun.cfg in it.

It is NOT a problem with DirectX at all, its the installer for the game. Others have had problems with it, and if its so much of an issue why havent you contacted the publisher?

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

I'm telling you i tried installing directX 9.0c from other game's just like Bet On Soldier and i had the same problem...Please help!!!The problem is with directX 9.0c!!

[DABhand]

Then your DirectX must not be installed right. Which is unfortunate since it wont install onto itself.


Again if you read the games' forum it will show many people with the same problem installing the game with the directx installation.

[Grumpy]

@NITROUS SYSTEM
For DirectX problems try using the 'XPLite' program to fix it. Now I havent used it personally but I have heard good things about it! You can find a fully working trial version of XPLite here (http://www.litepc.com/xppreview.html). You can also read more about it at the same site. Remember I have not used it personally!! But if you have directX problems it may just help you!
Also you say you cannot see the 'Autorun.inf' file on your CD/DVD?
This could be caused by a couple of things!
Firstly try this:
In Windows Explorer, go to the 'Tools' menu, then 'Folder Options', then to the 'View' tab. Now check that the Green dot is in "Show Hidden Files and Folders".
Also whilst in the 'View' box, untick "Hide Extensions for Known File Types".
Then click the 'Apply' button.
Then near the top of the 'View' box, click the "Apply to all Folders" button.
Now you should be able to see the Autorun.inf file!

[jhuk]

That is your problem, some other game you have played has made you install dx9c not gave you option to skip as you already have it, i had same prob as you with both demo and full game, NFS-MW demo comes with june or july dx9c and mines was oct dx9c i think F.E.A.R installed it i cant be sure i have played lot of games recently.

I didnt know NFS-MW came on dvd, on the 4cd version you simply explore cd1 (dvd will be same) and set your " AutoRun.exe " to Win 2000 mode to install the game.

Others have told you to edit the dx9c part, have you even tried this yet ?.

[Joe Forster/STA]

I would suggest downloading the very latest DirectX 9.0c from Micro$oft and, if still no luck, contacting the game publisher. As you bought the game, it's their damn duty to help you with making it work on your computer!

[jhuk]

It wont work, i tried it at time i had probs, it will zoom through the dx install as it dont actually need to install as he already has it, it just flashes on screen and says done lol, he will need to do as he has been told in the 2 options, he can try 1 then the other if it fails, again i still dont see any dvd of thsi game in stores :confused:

[DABhand]

@NITROUS SYSTEM
For DirectX problems try using the 'XPLite' program to fix it. Now I havent used it personally but I have heard good things about it! You can find a fully working trial version of XPLite here (http://www.litepc.com/xppreview.html). You can also read more about it at the same site. Remember I have not used it personally!! But if you have directX problems it may just help you!
Also you say you cannot see the 'Autorun.inf' file on your CD/DVD?
This could be caused by a couple of things!
Firstly try this:
In Windows Explorer, go to the 'Tools' menu, then 'Folder Options', then to the 'View' tab. Now check that the Green dot is in "Show Hidden Files and Folders".
Also whilst in the 'View' box, untick "Hide Extensions for Known File Types".
Then click the 'Apply' button.
Then near the top of the 'View' box, click the "Apply to all Folders" button.
Now you should be able to see the Autorun.inf file!

Apparently there is no DVD version, so its homebrew and someone never put on the autorun stuff.

[HELP!]

Hello, I have a problem to with directX

When i am accepting the license agreement, i clik on next, Then i get a message: The setup will not contiue because you need to have DirectX9.0c or higher, you can download it at microsoft.com/directX.

But I have already direct X 9.0C, because i play fifa06, and San andereas.
Could i do something that it wont ask for this or that he dont try to check it, and i also reinstald directX9.0c several times.

Thanks,

[DABhand]

Copy the contents of CD1 to a folder.

Go into the folder then into the autorun folder, there you will find autorun.cfg

Look near the top you will see

RTPatch=0
RTPatchURL=http://patches.ea.com/nfs_mostwanted/home.html
RTPatchCDID=NA
DirectXVersion=9.0c


Change the 9.0c to 0


Burn the contents of the folder to a cd with the same label as the original, install using the burnt cd1 and use your original 2,3,4

It should install.

[Joe Forster/STA]

DirectX 9.0c exists in several subsubsubversions. Why they don't get a (slightly) different version number so that difference will be obvious? No idea, ask Micro$oft! :(

[DABhand]

The reason it wants to install 9.0c is because it adds another dll into the system.

Namely

d3dx9_26.dll which doesnt come with any other version of DirectX 9.0c

[HELP!]

Badhand, or some one els,

Can i remove that dll file ?? Or put it out of my system ??

Thanks,

[HELP!]

I understand that wat you said about > DirectX9.0c into Direct0, when i have change that you said that i have to burn a new one?

Is this nessercary or, can i install it from my hardisk ?

Thanks,

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

Okay i have found autorun.cfg now trying the thing you said...And as for the DVD version i don't know maybe an european version or smth....Hope the thing works...

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

It worked out guys Thanks to everone especially to DABhand for the help...

[DABhand]

meh :)

[HELP!]

Thanks, it worked out !!!

Thanks for the tips!!! God bleze you:D

[DABhand]

meh again :)

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

Apparently there is no DVD version, so its homebrew and someone never put on the autorun stuff.
I'm telling you there is a DvD version..Take a look at photo of the game!!!:D http://www.imagecabin.com/imageupload/uploadimages/no_user/2005/12/03/29113361176943918af92145c.jpg (http://www.imagecabin.com)

[DABhand]

I was only reporting on what others were saying, ive checked more and yes there is a dvd version.

I myself bought the CD version.

[NITROUS SYSTEM]

That cleared out some things!!!

[DUKE_NUKEM]

Hope this will help.
This is the problem I encountered with this game: after updating directx, rebooting, installing and playing for a while, I started having some unexpected and totally casual slowdown during the game. At first I thought that my gfx (Mobility Radeon 9600 128, yes I'm a laptop owner) was dying, but after a while the game returned at its "normal speed". Then I read in this topic about Dual-Core issues. As my Laptop procio is a 3.06 HT, i tried the imagecfg trick, without luck. So I decided to try with other games which never gave me problems (PES 5, Madagascar and Painkiller Black Edition). And, surprise surprise, also Mad and PK had continuous slowdowns, while PES hadn't. I decided to reinstall my OS and after that the first and only game I installed was NFS. Again, same problem, also with other games.
Today, I reinstalled Windows again; but then I tried with Madagascar and Painkiller. Guess what? No more slowdowns. I don't know if NFS modifies also System32 directory files, actually I can only think that directx dlls which come with the game aren't suitable for my gfx card.
If someone experienced the same probs, please post here his opinion, I would appreciate.
Oh, just the last thing: I tried setting the game at min res and min details, then at 1024x768 mid-high details and v-sync enabled: it was choppy anyway. How is it possible? -----> The game is crap, and programmers should be ashamed to consider "complete" a game like this, which is programmed with feet. Anyway, they will never see my money again, maybe next time they will concentrate more on beta-testing and less on copy-prot. :mad:

[Grumpy]

@DUKE_NUKEM
The game is crap, and programmers should be ashamed to consider "complete"
Hang on, the game may run like crap, on your system, but I personally thought the game was well done and a lot better than the NFS Underground games!
Without going into details about my system specs I managed to play the game with all settings on maximum and the game ran perfectly.
I think you are giving the game a bad review only because it doesnt run perfect on your machine?
Like any game I believe it all depends on the system you are trying to run it on. ;)

[DUKE_NUKEM]

As I already said, i tried different settings and the game never ran smoothly, I don't think that a p4 3.06 HT with 1Gb RAM and a 128 Video Card isn't enough to run a game smoothly at 640x480 and min quality, don't ya think?
But maybe you prefer to talk about the crappy IA, which makes rivals stop to wait for ya, or maybe about the fact that the weather doesn't really affect the driving model. And what about the strange fact that a Punto is able to beat a Toyota Supra?
You can say what you want about the 2 Underground, but they are honest games of illegal races, not a bad arcade with a heavy gfx engine and a lot of bugs; for me NFS ended with Hot Pursuit 2, a big game with beautiful cars and a lot of variety.
I can even tolerate a game which is too heavy for what it really shows on screen (i.e. FEAR), but if you sum a lot of bugs which also affect pc performances in other games, are you still sure this is a decent game?
An advice: go around and search the forums all over the world; you'll find a lot of people which are not completely happy of this game.
If it runs well on your pc, it doesn't mean it is a well-programmed game, maybe you're just lucky. And maybe you need to open your eyes.

[Grumpy]

@DUKE_NUKEM
talk about the crappy IA, which makes rivals stop to wait for ya, or maybe about the fact that the weather doesn't really affect the driving model. And what about the strange fact that a Punto is able to beat a Toyota Supra?
What you refer to here is 'realism'. It has nothing to do with being crappy! What do you honestly expect from a car game! Anyone can say those things about any game. Have you ever known anyone to do over 300kph through city streets then crash into a car and be able to keep driving!? All car games (all games in fact) are unrealistic! I know this as I actually play 'with my eyes open'!! And I have never noticed the AI stop to let me catch up? Maybe you should try staying in front of the AI instead of behind! :p
And I wasnt knocking the Underground games! They were good games but I feel 'Most Wanted' is better. But how can you say they were honest games? Again cars doing unrealistic speeds through crowded city streets and performing unrealistic jumps!? Yeh real honest!
I still feel it is because of your system that you have troubles with this game!
I only have, P4 3.2 HT, 2gig Ram, 256mb Graphic card and like I said ran the game on Max settings but at 1024x768. Your machine should be able to run it a lot better than 'Minimum settings at 640x480'? So you have a problem with your system somewhere! Again you are criticizing a game because of the machine it is running on!
If it runs well on your pc, it doesn't mean it is a well-programmed game,
I agree, but if it runs bad on your system it does not mean it is a bad programmed game either!! I think it is you who should open their eyes!! For every one person who complains about a game there will probably be between 100-1000 that really enjoy the game!? The problem with any forum is no-one really writes to say something good about a game, they only write in to complain!! Like yourself!! Again open your eyes!
I only tried to say that you should not criticize a game simply because it doesnt run well on your machine!
And 'Yes' I am still sure it is a decent game! You just have to know how to play!!
Now for my advice: Buy yourself a football (soccer ball) if the computer games are to hard for you! :p

[DABhand]

The world is full of negatives nowadays, not like when we were kids when you went outside and played and if you had a comp you played it for an hour or 2.

[DUKE_NUKEM]

Grumpy, I can see you avoided to touch some of the points (IE driving model and performance balance betwenn much different cars) I underlined, but it doesn't really matter.
As you have said, for 1 person who complains there are 1000 who have fun, but this seems just a good excuse.
Once upon a time, there weren't all these problems with games; I can remember the days spent with Quake II, when I was just a child and had no knowledge of the pc; I never had problems. (and there was windows 98 besides!!!!)
Yes, today there are son many hardware configs that it's not possible to test the game with every1, but it's not a good thing to think only o users who have the latest gfx card, the latest procio, 3kgs ram and the latest drivers for every damned piece of hardware they have.
The two undergrounds had the same probs of most wanted about playability, but, as I said, thy were honest, cause they tried to reproduce one specific kind of situation (----> illegal races) and they almost completely succeeded.
But then, what NFSMW pretends to be???
It has dream cars, which run just like a 15000 euros Fiat Punto; it has customization, but so restricted that Rock'n'Roll Racing is more permissive; it has circuits which seem always the same, and the weather conditions don't affect driving. Oh, and police IA remained the same of Hot Pursiut 2, if not worse.
One consideration about "realism", pleeze, don't make me laugh.
If you run like Michel Vaillant with a monstrous car, youl'll still see rivals biting the asphalt after you. If you run like a drunken monkey with a standard car, you'l be still able to beat a dark gray Supra with yellow & red flames and every type of tuning allowed by this (poor) game. This is the essence of modern games: no trial & error, just go ahead to the end, with rivals waiting for you to beat them 2 metres before the finish line. Easy gaming for no-brain gamers: that's what it is, nothin' more, nothin' less.
Grumpy, if you still feel I talk on the wings of envy cause I've not an high-end pc, that's just your prob. I solved mine bringing back the pc ver. to the store and renting the xbox one. It's still crap anyway, just 3-4 days of multiplayer and then back to the store, again and forever.
You know, I'm not old (20) but I started playing "seriously" when I was 7, I've never considered gfx a matter of interest and I prefer running a game at 640x480 fluently then at 1024x768 with some slowdowns. But when you can't have fun cause programmers & beta testers are just incompetent, and publishers pretend to condemn piracy while they get 50 euros a game and they don't get ensured about the quality of the game, then I sit down, stop playing and just look at the sunset.
Last point. NO. I repeat: NO, my laptop hasn't any sort of problem, except for bad coded NFSMW. After formatting 2 TIMES (I made the mistake of installing that CRAPPY game 2 times), it returned to its golden age, which started in july (last OS reinstalling before these days) and would have continued but it couldn't, thx again to NFSMW. End of the story.

[Grumpy]

@Duke
except for bad coded NFSMW
Hahahahaha! You poor misguided soul! Found your football yet? :p ;)

[DUKE_NUKEM]

I would be glad to send some donkey-style programmers and some other blind-gamers to play soccer instead; They would cause less damage to the essence of videogamez.
And, if I don't ask too much, could you please reply point after point to my preceiding post? I guess you can't cause sane criticism doesn't run well on your brain, damn unfornutately you can't get a new one. :D

[DUKE_NUKEM]

Sorry for the double post.
Grumpy, didn't want to be offensive, but the fact is that I hate to waste the hard-earned money of my parents (I'm a student), so don't take it like a personal attack cause all I would like to make you understand is that this is the 1.000th time that a game isn't worth his price.

[Grumpy]

@Duke
All I originally said to you was:
Hang on, the game may run like crap, on your system, but I personally thought the game was well done and a lot better than the NFS Underground games!
Without going into details about my system specs I managed to play the game with all settings on maximum and the game ran perfectly.
I think you are giving the game a bad review only because it doesnt run perfect on your machine?
Like any game I believe it all depends on the system you are trying to run it on.
Again, I only tried to suggest you should maybe not criticize a game just because it wont run on your machine! I did not originally start to have a go at you until you made the remark "And maybe you need to open your eyes."
My kids have a P4 2.8 HT 1gig Ram and a 128 Graphics card yet even they can run it on Medium settings at 1024x768!! So, you little dipstick again I say to you it is your goddam machine that is letting you down!!!
if you still feel I talk on the wings of envy
I never said anything about you being envious?? But obviously you are envious of something? Again my kids system runs the game better than your ****ty machine!! And my kids is a less spec machine than yours! Doesnt that tell you something?
As far as touching on your points, when you make a valid point I may consider touching on it! Besides why bother when your dimwit brain can only answer with "but this seems just a good excuse"!!
Every game will tell you "You must install the latest drivers"!!
It has dream cars
What do/did you seriously expect??
If you want a real car get a Driving License and get out on the road!! Pull yourself away from that crappy system of yours and buy a real car!! Of course they are Dream cars??
Sane criticism you say?? Where was the sane criticism? You dont even understand that playing games is playing in a dream world! Its not real!! Its not meant to be real!! Please tell me a PC game that was real?? Sane criticism, wow I am still laughing and shaking my head at that comment!!
Telling me to 'open my eyes' and trying to refer to me as another 'Blind Gamer' only proceeds to 'Piss me off' and believe me that in itself is not a smart thing to do!!
Now pull your head out of the clouds and go and buy a 'real' car!!

EDIT: What do you mean you didnt want to be offensive!? What telling me I cant take sane criticism wasnt meant to be offensive!!! Dream on mummys boy!! If you dont want to waste mummies money then go rent the game, you know try before you buy!! :rolleyes:

[copy2012]

LOL@Grumpy

[DUKE_NUKEM]

In fact I rented it, as I told ya before, but what I wanted to underline is that even a Pc game should be compatible with 99% pc which are over the min requirements. What's the meaning of NFSMW req? Nothing, cause even on a much better pc it is choppy.
Before you talked about "realism", now you say "It's a game, it's not real", I guess you should take a clear decision before talking, otherwise I'll think you turn the things in the way that is suitable to support your opinion.
And yes, you are another blind-gamer, who considers every game he buys a must-buy, while all the consideartions I made demonstrate that this game isn't really perfect. You can disagree if you want, but it will not help in convincing me that NFS is a good game.
I'd like to remember you that I said that "every other game runs fine", but NFS doesn't, so what? There's something that is not with my systems, but with game coding which is full of lacks.
Maybe you're right, I should go out and play football, or would you be so kind to send me your kids so they can teach me how to use a pc???
I'll stop it right here, I still have not heard a possible solution for my prob. and I'm not interested in arguing with a bunch of noisy guys. And yes, I'm still referring to you.

[Grumpy]

@Duke
Before you talked about "realism", now you say "It's a game, it's not real", I guess you should take a clear decision before talking, otherwise I'll think you turn the things in the way that is suitable to support your opinion.
Yes I did mention realism! Open those eyes of yours! I said:
All car games (all games in fact) are unrealistic!
Dont try and change my words! It was you who expected to see realism!
it will not help in convincing me that NFS is a good game.
I am not trying to convince you that NFS is a good game! Just because I think it is a good game doesnt mean everyone has to agree, I was merely trying to inform you that just because it doesnt work on 'your' machine doesnt mean the game has been badly coded!
I'm not interested in arguing with a bunch of noisy guys. And yes, I'm still referring to you
lol, ahh kids! I think you may find that you are the one who is making all the noise! Trying to change my words, telling me to open my eyes! Go back over our posts and you will find that I innocently tried to inform you about you system. You fired the first shot by telling me to open my eyes, when mine have been clearly open from the start! You have made the blind accusations and once you leave the comfort of mummys and daddys lap you may even grow up yourself! I dont take to kindly to 'kids' telling me to open my eyes when theirs havent begun to open!! :rolleyes:

[DABhand]

See now you shot yourself in the foot (DUKE)


Like ive said before, not all games work on every single machine, its impossible, there is that many combinations of different hardware in a machine that it would be difficult to test one game on all.


Laptops are usually not gaming machines, unless you bought a gaming machine.


Whats your laptop specs, and graphic card? If its one of those onboard intel extremes you can forget playing the game.


EDIT: Grumpy got his post out before mine :P

[Muji-FightR]

i run the game on a P4 3Ghz with a 9800XT 128MB and 1024 Mb RAM which is not really Hi-End nowadays ...
It runs lets say okay, a not-that-smooth 20 fps at max settings and 1024x768 is okay, but sometimes there is something really strange i encountered. it runs for a certain time with 5fps or less, just stops after lets say 2 min.
but the most strange thing, it happens in special areas, often with plenty of wood :confused:
and, wow, i just defragmentated my systen with Perfect Disk and it does not appear anymore. cool . ;)

[copy2012]

I run it on a 2.5 Barton for christ sakes:p

1gig ram
120 gig sata
Radeon 9600XT
Stock coolong lol (no Overclock)

Highest detail
No chop;)

OK res 800X600:rolleyes:

[Joe Forster/STA]

Guys, if you want serious simulation, try Live for Speed or any game from the SimBin Team, in the hardest difficulty mode. The Need for Speed series stopped being simulation, after the first one.

As for compatibility, a PC not only need to meet the hardware requirements but its software also needs to be maintained continuously, otherwise weird things will happen - crashes, compatibility problems, etc. -, and not only with games! So, from this point of view, DABhand is right, it is not always the publisher's fault that their software doesn't run - properly or at all - on a given PC. (The real question is the difference between the percentage of problems caused by the user and the publisher. :))

[FREEMAN100]

not really on the subject but i have a self hacked prog that allows you to un-install DIRECTX aslong as its above 8.1(tried & tested on my pc only)

If its of any use to anyone let me no even if you just want to try it out

[DUKE_NUKEM]

@ Mujifighter

That's the SAME problem I've encountered, and now I've the same with NFSU2. Even when I have reinstalled the OS (2 times) I've kept the D:\ partition (which is about 50 GB, 40 of them full & defragmented). Maybe I'll try to free some disk space and just defragment again with that proggy. Thx for the advice.


However my config is:
P4 3.06 Ghz HT FSB533 (I've tried the imagecfg trick, but nothing)
1024 Mb DDR 333
80 Gb Hard Disk @ 4800 RPM
ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 128 Mb (NOT shared)

When I bought it, just 2 years and a half ago, it was really a gaming machine.
Maybe it would be still good if there where some good and up-to-date gfx drivers. I've already tried official ATI catalyst, DNA and Omega Drivers, Unyan Catalyst and DHModtool, but with latest drivers I'm unable to reproduce videos.

Anyway, I'm sure that the problem isn't caused by:
USB joypad
Firewall
Antivirus
Updating features running in background
Internet Connection
Paging File Fragmentation
Dual CPU issues (it could happen while programmin' with feet :D :rolleyes: ;) )
GFX card (it works perfectly with other heavy games such as COD2)

Hope this will help in finding a solution.

[DABhand]

But you wont get help after admiting you rented the game and you dont actually own it.

In fact I rented it, as I told ya before, but what I wanted to underline is that even a Pc game should be compatible with 99% pc which are over the min requirements. What's the meaning of NFSMW req? Nothing, cause even on a much better pc it is choppy.



EDIT: All PC's are different, motherboards are different, graphic cards from whatever manufacturer (even same 6800 chipset) are different, all processors arent twins or identical, soundcards, memory, drives, etc etc All are different.

So you cant have a game running 99% perfect on all machines, its impossible to test on all multiples of hardware.

[DUKE_NUKEM]

;) DabHand, I've always been a console-gamer, but I've never pretended to play on pc as easily as on Sega MegaDrive. Anyway it's certainly not my opinion that lots of people are having problem with (not only) this game; it seems that having a game without any kind of issue is just exception, while it would be the normality.
If Silent Hill 4 fails in recognizin' my gfx and so prevents me from changing the screen res, what I should do? Remaining calm and thinkin' that I'm one of those unlucky people who have this problem, or better return the game to the store?
If NFSMW have some strange behaviour cause I have 50 GB full on the 75 of my Hard-Disk, even if this is the prob (I've still not tried, and maybe I'll never try cause I've not the game anymore), what I should think about the programmers? Nobody said me I would have had 30+ GB free on my Hard Disk!!!! (I defragment it every single day, just to be precise).
And what about path of neo, so horrible that they released a huge patch in less then one week? And F.E.A.R. and Starship Troopers, which look like crap at med\low res? Don't ya think that there isn't too much attention for med-low-end systems?
Back to NFSMW, a 7800 GTX owner, seeing the game choppy cause in some situations it is choppy, no matter the hardware and the detail level you choose, what should he do?
Well, I'm still waitin' for an answer, cause games which play fine on the 99,99999% systems are still many, as a confirm that is still possible to make a game suitable for (almost) every config.
My little noobie idea is, since pc has become a gaming machine (I think approx. since 1998), too many people have thought to be able to enter this market; the result is, too many games, much of them similar and of low quality, and only few must-buy, few as they where before this "Boom".
So, even if this ought-to-be great titles (I think also to POP3, damned SF3!!!)
are not free from the shadow of issues, mmmmmm, better come back to consoles. But not me, the programmers.

[DABhand]

Thats all fine and well, but your dont own NFSMW, you rented it.

If you read the rules, no help to people who dont have the original disc.

[Joe Forster/STA]

@DABhand: I think DUKE_NUKEM wasn't requesting anything for his copy of NFS:MW that he doesn't actually own, he was only discussing it. And, according to his bad opinion about it, I don't think he'll keep it anyway... ;)

@DUKE_NUKEM: While I agree with you on most parts, this thread is getting a bit off-topic for this forum...

[DABhand]

Fair do's my apologies to DUKE, but he is wrong about systems and how games run, my NFSMW works flawlessly.

[DUKE_NUKEM]

I said I'm still having the prob, but now with NFS Underground 2.
Got my eval. ver. of Xfect Disk and Defragmented.
Now I have 23 on 29 GB free on the primary partition and 25 on 45 on the second partition, but still having problems.

To Mujifighter: did you set any particular option in Xfect disk?
To Dabhand: Don't worry we're just talkin' ;)
To Joe: OT? Not realy, I got a prob with NFS!!! :eek: :rolleyes: ;) :D

[Muji-FightR]

to DUKE NUKEM:
I enabled 'Smart Replacement Defrag' and also did the so called 'Offline Defrag' which claims to defrag your Windows files and folders, dunno if it really works.
After doing it, this 'particular slowdown' did not occur anymore ;)

[DUKE_NUKEM]

Tried again and nothing.
Ok, I give up and go playin PES 5 Superpatch, THX to all for the help, it was a vain effort :(

[temp]

Mine runs so fast on my AMD mobile @2.8gig with 250/500 FSB and 2gig ram and 6800U AGP overclocked to 475/1250 (running tighter ram timmings) and its so real looking i get travel sickness esp in the ****pit view, man i though i had grown out that now i need take them horrid tasting pills again everytime i fire up NFS-MW :p

Lol, specs are true but i aint really been playing any game in past 3weeks never mind this, i do odd quick race now and then.

[Joe Forster/STA]

For Cheese and Rice's sake, can we switch off the censorship on this board? Being unable to spell out "car c-o-c-k-pit" or "Chronicles of Rid-d-i-c-k" or "Star-f-u-c-k-er" is getting ridiculous... ;)

[DABhand]

Blasphemy!


Repent you sinner!


:P

[Grumpy]

Jesus Christ
Errr its 'Cheese and Rice' :p