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N0cturnus
03-11-2005, 08:08
Hi all, Please im using this forum as a last resort option!
I've read all the threads on all the forum's tried all the options i was given...
Daemon Tools, Anti Blaxx, CD Hide, SR7.Stop, Alcohol.. Well Everything, my problem is as follows.

i Have made an iso from my Original FM using alcohol, had the Securerom error, bypassed them iso went through allright.

tried the walktroughs found, but.. no good... :(

Mounted it on any of the progz, installed on all, but on load, when in Compatibility mode NT SP5 or any other... with or without compatibility mode on, when loading the exe, it creates a .Tmp file, and after a minute or so, it crashes back to desktop saying "Fm.exe encountered an error". Data editor.exe works like a charm, even loads up the database, but the Freaking Fm.exe, just hangs !! i can't find no cracked exe, or no-cd, no mini-image to bypass this damn S***, if anyone as the same problem, and if anyone found the cure, please inform me through this forum. This test was made in 2 diffrente machines, both Win XP Sp2, a) Intel Cel 2,67,1gbDDR400,nvidia 6600,asrock board. b) AMD Athlon 1,7. 512mbDDR400,Ati 9200.

please... HELP ME!!! :confused:

DABhand
03-11-2005, 08:25
.ISO files wont hold protections, they only contain files.

Try CloneCD or BlindWrite.

noscript
03-11-2005, 08:30
FM does not even have securom, it has safedisc, try Safedisc 4 Hider

N0cturnus
03-11-2005, 08:34
man when i said iso i meant image file, dosent alcohol (Mdf/Mds) if securerom present kopies the protection ? tried clonecd tried blindwrite tried THEM ALL!!!

the phreaking problem is with the EXE on load...

not no sotware usage, or any kind of thing, please help me with the problem, don't hit me with options on Burning..

Thanks!

N0cturnus
03-11-2005, 08:36
secureom, safedisk!! whatever... It copied the protection PERIOD! i do emulate it ok! install OK! play NO OK!, with anti blaxx, s4.stop, daemon,alcohol.. whatever.. ANY SOLUTION ? ?

TippeX
03-11-2005, 08:41
erm dude, read a little, the game is NOT securom protected, its safedisc

N0cturnus
03-11-2005, 08:51
DAMN ppl... securerom safe disk.. the prob is with the exe on load.. but HELL with This..
Sigames just released a New Patch Build, might it solve the problem, THANKS! for telling me waht kind of protection the game uses, it's really what i need th Ear!! Damn... GIVE ME A SOLUTION DOn'T hit me with your BLA BLA BLA wanna be iT !

noscript
03-11-2005, 09:04
does it work with your original dvd?

N0cturnus
03-11-2005, 09:08
it worked... if a dog breed pitbull didn´t enjoyed eating shiny silver discs

markl187ld
03-11-2005, 10:23
DAMN ppl... securerom safe disk.. the prob is with the exe on load.. but HELL with This..
Sigames just released a New Patch Build, might it solve the problem, THANKS! for telling me waht kind of protection the game uses, it's really what i need th Ear!! Damn... GIVE ME A SOLUTION DOn'T hit me with your BLA BLA BLA wanna be iT !
What makes you think people are going to help you when you're acting like a little faggot?

N0cturnus
03-11-2005, 10:33
What makes you think people are going to help you when you're acting like a little faggot?


humm i might have got overburned, but never used bad lingo on u guys, so if you did get it personaly, don't get jealous please, and keep on faggin :p

DABhand
03-11-2005, 10:39
Listen buddy, If you original worked but the image didnt, then the process of your image didnt work.

We are trying to find out things, to eliminate others..

We dont know your system, we dont know what you did, we do not know answers that you think magically appears.

And when you act like you did when people tried to help, then expect none.


And you did say ISO, so I assumed you were talking about a straight forward .iso file.

Perhaps if you gave more information, you would have got more help.


Again if your original is not giving you problems, but the image is then its the image. Not the executable file.

swoosh3k
03-11-2005, 12:10
lol frustrated foreigners are funny

caki
03-11-2005, 12:53
Safedisc exes have been known to crash sometimes if a wrong CD is inserted. But this is very rare, and to me it only happened with my Painkiller game.

TippeX
03-11-2005, 14:07
yep bad image can pass the cd check but result in a bad decrypt key and the exe crashes in ~df394b somewhere usually, usually occours if u burn the image at too high a speed too

N0cturnus
04-11-2005, 06:08
yep bad image can pass the cd check but result in a bad decrypt key and the exe crashes in ~df394b somewhere usually, usually occours if u burn the image at too high a speed too

That's exactly the error, probably the image file was bad created, though i followed a walktrough on one of the forum's regarding the record of an image in alcohol, i put my guns to rest, if the error was on the image know i have to open my dog's belly and try to puzzle the cd back on.. god gave teeths to the wrong kind of animals...
Thanks for your opinion, and it's incredible, oh you guys don't get overburn by nothing, keep on having those good President's and one day your young bloody non historical country might disappear,You were still throwing arrwos in the air, we were discovering the world !! LONG LIVE PORTUGAL!
Puta que vos pariu a todos, cornos de merda pensam que sabem, e tem um pais de sangue, leiam eduquem-se!! deixem de ter papo cheio façam-se homens, piolhos do caralho.. e tal.. !

thank you anyway!

Joe Forster/STA
04-11-2005, 06:19
By the way, if you don't have the original CD/DVD (anymore), you should get a replacement from the publisher. Otherwise, according to forum rule #3, you are not allowed to request help about making your copy (of any origin) work. And, please, keep your "wise" and/or non-English comments for yourself; I don't think anyone would find them funny...

DABhand
04-11-2005, 06:29
throwing arrwos in the air


One day ill get that pesky wabbit

hehehehehe

WarezRule!
04-11-2005, 07:04
This post has become yet another example of something that has annoyed me since I discovered this site. While I can't say I share Noctunre's political\social assessment of America (I don't think there's any chance of it "disappear"ing), I do empathize with the confontational tone he used in his posts.
While this site is extremely informative and useful, the most frequent (albeit usually the most helpful) posters here usually come off as condescending at best and insulting at worst. Dabhand just scored a real zinger by mocking some Portugese guy's English. Whoah, almost cut myself on that wit of yours.:rolleyes: And why bother with the holier-than-thou reminders of the Holy Forum Rules? Nocturne OBVIOUSLY doesn't possess the game legally and neither does the vast majority of people who use Fileforums and the various copyworlds. If you folks that like to come down on illegal filesharers really had any convictions regarding this victimless crime you wouldn't share your hacking/programming info with anyone who comes up with a lame "my dog ate it" story. I don't see any real legal reason for this attitude either. The owners, moderators and the lawyers for the corporations who produce the files all know that this site is mostly used by pirates. You would have to be very naive to think that banning anybody is going to save them when they finally go to court. But whatever your reasoning for it, why not just ban them and delete the post? It might cut down on the animosity and frequency of these pointless strings of posts, like the one I just contributed to:D

N0cturnus
04-11-2005, 08:14
well to finish it, i would like to say to the guy that made an opinion about my english... well m8 i speak english since i was 6 years old, while i don't see you speaking Portuguese do i ?! or spanish do i? or french do i ? or german do i ? do you really know how to speak your native lingo ? hummmm, if you had a pin of neuron activity you would see that i might change the order of the letters 'cause of fast writing... and yes... i HATE the US, not the people, but the governament!! though the people do vote, and when you have so much CULTURE in your hands.. it's difficult to accept how you re run a President who's only interest is in Oil and Guns... but.. im just a portuguese in a tiny little country who in 500 hundread years discovered HALF A PLANET !!! HALF A PLANET M8!! and you guys destroyed HALF A PLANET!! nice going... and finally quot'in that last post, do belive me that i no longer have the cd, and i mailed Sigames of what happened and waiting for a response. And if i was indeed a warez user, tell me, do you agree with the prices of the games? if so... do you think the time spent playing some, or patching this and that or removing adding drivers, do it pays the bill ???
only the programmers so see the cash !! and if all were like Valve !! the games would decrese on prices
'Cause BIG BOYS like EA, EIDOS or other Eatmoneyfrom programmers wouldn't be soooo greedy, and if the houses that prog, could release the games without the logos of the Big ONES!! maybe just maybe Piracy would decrease!!

LONG LIVE COMMODORE!! LONG LIVE the OLdSchOoL!!!

Burn iT to The Ground... and if a ban is what i will get.. Ohh How happy i am today :]

And .. no comments on portuguese.. ;) but it would do you guys no harm to learn one or two other languages beside English.

So Live well !

And keep on drilling oil in others countries and killing inocent people by the way!

Joe Forster/STA
04-11-2005, 08:51
I agree with you about the pointlessness of telling someone's English knowledge off; that game publishers rip you and the developers off; that Commodore rulez forever; that learning languages is fun and useful; that the USA is digging its own grave (or perhaps that of the whole world?). However, this doesn't change the fact that you're trying to discuss warez on this forum, which is the worst you can do against the forum rules! (Yes, you need to be banned and this thread closed as soon as possible.)

@WarezRule!: You're the Nth person who hasn't been around enough to understand what this forum is (and isn't) about. Banning warez-user idiots is exactly THE way to save this forum from getting closed down! Also, if you don't like the rules/attitude/feeling of this forum, well, you don't need to stay; see if other forums are better...

DABhand
04-11-2005, 09:25
This post has become yet another example of something that has annoyed me since I discovered this site. While I can't say I share Noctunre's political\social assessment of America (I don't think there's any chance of it "disappear"ing), I do empathize with the confontational tone he used in his posts.
While this site is extremely informative and useful, the most frequent (albeit usually the most helpful) posters here usually come off as condescending at best and insulting at worst. Dabhand just scored a real zinger by mocking some Portugese guy's English. Whoah, almost cut myself on that wit of yours.:rolleyes: And why bother with the holier-than-thou reminders of the Holy Forum Rules? Nocturne OBVIOUSLY doesn't possess the game legally and neither does the vast majority of people who use Fileforums and the various copyworlds. If you folks that like to come down on illegal filesharers really had any convictions regarding this victimless crime you wouldn't share your hacking/programming info with anyone who comes up with a lame "my dog ate it" story. I don't see any real legal reason for this attitude either. The owners, moderators and the lawyers for the corporations who produce the files all know that this site is mostly used by pirates. You would have to be very naive to think that banning anybody is going to save them when they finally go to court. But whatever your reasoning for it, why not just ban them and delete the post? It might cut down on the animosity and frequency of these pointless strings of posts, like the one I just contributed to:D


Pirates = People who sell warez for money..

Nobody ever seems to get that right.

N0cturnus
04-11-2005, 09:43
I agree with you about the pointlessness of telling someone's English knowledge off; that game publishers rip you and the developers off; that Commodore rulez forever; that learning languages is fun and useful; that the USA is digging its own grave (or perhaps that of the whole world?). However, this doesn't change the fact that you're trying to discuss warez on this forum, which is the worst you can do against the forum rules! (Yes, you need to be banned and this thread closed as soon as possible.)

@WarezRule!: You're the Nth person who hasn't been around enough to understand what this forum is (and isn't) about. Banning warez-user idiots is exactly THE way to save this forum from getting closed down! Also, if you don't like the rules/attitude/feeling of this forum, well, you don't need to stay; see if other forums are better...

joe, i had the original, made a bad Image, needed help... if a pirate or warez trader i will be consider.. dosen't change my daily day life... before the ban, i'll unregister myself.
Keep on ! and keep up the work!

DABhand
04-11-2005, 09:45
Dude as I said, if you didnt act the way you did you would have gotten help.


How would you like me to walk into your house, say its filthy and crap, then ask for a cup of coffee. Would you give me the coffee?

N0cturnus
04-11-2005, 09:55
:cool: Dude as I said, if you didnt act the way you did you would have gotten help.


How would you like me to walk into your house, say its filthy and crap, then ask for a cup of coffee. Would you give me the coffee?


yeah probably yes... have you been in ma house ? 'cause it's filthy and crappy, cause i don't have mom and dad to clean it, and i work 12 hours per day to have food on the table in the end of the day, yes i would give ya coffee, no prob... and asked a bit of help in the cleanin'

Joe Forster/STA
04-11-2005, 11:26
On this forum, the definition of "warez" is "not having the original CD/DVD". The reason doesn't matter, that's what forum rule #3 is about. Sorry, you may have fallen into this category unfairly; still, these are the forum rules...

WarezRule!
04-11-2005, 13:13
@Joe Forster- That is exactly what I'm talking about! All warez users are idiots? Is it because they don't agree with the unfair profit-making of these uber-greedy corporations? Because they use the services of this fine website to get free stuff? By participating in an operation that has become primarily a tool for illegal file sharing (not by pirates ;) ), regardless of what it was originally intended for, I think you lose any right to make sweeping denunciations of the perpetrators of a VICTIMLESS "crime".

@Nocturnus- That last post was a little ridiculous. I agree that the policies of our current administration are detrimental to our own security as well global stability. I would like to point out, however, that the period of Portugese history that you are glorifying bears a striking resemblance to the current affairs of the US. Yes, you were imperialists first, but is that really something to be proud of? In fact, a great deal of the problems facing America and the world today are a legacy of the earlier colonial powers' missteps during their years at the top of the heap.

glenbo
04-11-2005, 13:41
ok i didnt understand any of that,those words were far to bog for my little brain :P

im on the fence with it all,i dont disagree with anything anybody does illegally(with obvious exeptions ie rape n kiddie ****) hell if someone is sat in the canteen at work smoking a joint...i aint gonna go running to the boss's and grass him up.

the point is,wether you are illegally downloading or not,keep it to yourself man.

registering with a name like warezrulez is done only to wind up users who follow the rules,there would be no other point man.

so,where some of your points may be valid,you have to understand consiquence.

this site could be under threat if they supported warez users,or caterd to there needs by answering there questions.

you yourself could be under threat boasting yourself as a warez user,with your i.p just a click away.

YOU as a warez user get all your heats desires from no cd cracks and images from this site,why bite the hand that feeds you?

your only here to annoy the mods,plain and simple man.

WarezRule!
04-11-2005, 14:00
Quick clarification...I have never said that I use warez. I merely think that the existence of warez and file-sharing are very good things. I fervently hope that eventually the file-sharing movement will bring the corparations to see that their current methods of business are unfair and wrong.
I don't mean to bite the hand of a site that I find interesting. I really just wanted to suggest to the moderators that banning and deleting the posts of open warez users,rather than flaming them and making moral judgements, might lead to a lighter, friendlier atmosphere on the forums. And then Nocturnus got me talking about politics. Sorry about that :)

DABhand
04-11-2005, 14:39
How long have you been buying software dude, I remember when I could buy it for £1.99 - £5.99 way back for commodore 64's and Spectrum 48k's.


Then the dual tape recorder systems came out, and it was easy for people to hire games out and copy them from tape to tape at high speed.


So prices went to £2.99 - £7.99 and over the years with the introduction of the Atari ST and Amiga, the prices continued to increase as more and more people started to buy from the street pirates (local markets etc).


So how wrong are they? They should keep it at a low price? Make no profits at all, also you forget, way back publishers like codemasters was just the brothers who founded it, unlike today where its a huge workforce.

Who pays the wages?


And again as ive said before in a different thread, it doesnt matter if a game is £35 or £5, people are greedy a-holes and will steal it even if it was a £1 for it. That is the truth, people are thiefs and they can never own up to it.


Yet they would never ever allow anyone to steal from them, quite a contradiction right there huh.

DABhand
04-11-2005, 14:41
I really just wanted to suggest to the moderators that banning and deleting the posts of open warez users,rather than flaming them and making moral judgements, might lead to a lighter, friendlier atmosphere on the forums.


No it would result in, huge pressure from several anti-piracy groups to force the site down.

Joe Forster/STA
05-11-2005, 02:40
@WarezRule!: Excuse me, I also have my own opinion about society, economy, politics and, in particular, the greed of game publishers. BUT NOT EVEN THAT changes the fact that the forum rules prohibit the discussion of warez! Actually, argumentations over the usefulness of warez are off-topic, too...

As for warez users, the current extremely high - and constantly raising! - noise/signal and ban ratio on this forum is a good proof for the vast majority of warez users being idiots. Here you could define "idiot" as something like "not familar enough with the tools/sites/forums to be able to solve warez-related problems on his (or her?) own, but unfortunately not only that, also expecting other people's help - often in an aggressive tone - free of charge (as in without paying anything or doing a favor in change)". These people are the same idiots whom once you help with solving an absolutely minor problem with their cars and, from then on, like a leech, they will expect you to change the tyres or replace the engine - still for free! -, even if there are car repair service all over the neighborhood. Unfortunately, I know quite a few people like that around me... :(

You think that I think that idiotism is not warez-related? Damn, you got that right!

WarezRule!
05-11-2005, 04:41
No it would result in, huge pressure from several anti-piracy groups to force the site down.

Does the flaming and such really appease the anti-piracy groups? As Joe Forster pointed out there is a large and growing number of people who are unable or unwilling to disguise their warez use on this forum. It seems to me that a ban-and-delete-post policy would help keep this site from the legal radar as well as improving the general tone of posts. Violaters could just be sent an e-mail informing them of the ban and a brief explanation of why the post was removed.

Here you could define "idiot" as something like "not familar enough with the tools/sites/forums to be able to solve warez-related problems on his (or her?) own, but unfortunately not only that, also expecting other people's help - often in an aggressive tone - free of charge (as in without paying anything or doing a favor in change)".

I don't think it's unreasonable for people to "expect" help on a file help forum. Since this forum is linked to websites mostly used by warez users it shouldn't be a surprise to find people with warez problems wandering into this forum. You're right that most of these people have pretty simple questions that they should be able to figure out on their own, but there are idiots out there. :) I just don't see the need to rub it in their faces the way some people on this forum seem to.

I think the aggressive tone people have is due to the flames and snide comments they read in older posts before asking their question. After the first percieved shot is fired, the venom starts spewing in both directions, ruining what could have been a constructive post.

I'm not arguing that warez users should be allowed to openly discuss their crime on this forum. No one who has ever had a problem solved by this forum should want to intentionally put it in some lawyer's sights. I just think there should be a new policy towards people who can't follow the rules.

And Dabhand is right on the money. People are thieves. And liars. And cheaters. ALL people. All but the most clueless optimists realize at some point in their lives that their fellow man sucks. The CEOs of these corporations are doing everything they can think of to "rip off" the consumer. I like to see consumers getting a few licks in as well. This conflict won't end until capitalism does. Like Old Man Dabhand recalls, this has been going on since the dawn of gaming history. Prices will keep going up to pay for more expensive copy protection (not that the lowly worker bees will see any of that cash in their high-tech sweatshops) and the thieves will keep finding ways around it.

Could we hear a mod's opinion on the ban and delete idea?

glenbo
05-11-2005, 05:23
dude,warez talk just isent wanted here..i mean this is a good conversation,but it is the wish of the site owner that we dont discuss it,so lets just respect that and get back to football manager. :P

your a intellegent guy with alot of valid points,but i dont think this is the place,and if it upsets you then maybe a pm conversation would be more appropriate with the site owner.

Warlock
05-11-2005, 05:58
I think i've read about enough, The forum rules are simple, You are not allowed to help with or discuss warez on this forum. They dont say that you are not allowed to have or use warez. Each of you agreed to obey these rules before registering so dont sit here and complain when a mod closes a post or bans someone for breaking them. These forum rules are not for you to sit here and debate as well. The rules are set by our administrator and will be enforced by the moderators.
If ANY of you have a problem with this i suggest you find another forum to hang out at because here we are not going to sugarcoat it for you. If someone asks for help with warez the thread will be closed and the abuser will be banned. This also applies to Flamers!

Thread closed!