FM 2006 Mini image

[john.216]

ONCE for all, i hope: :eek: :eek:

FOR WINDOWS XP follows this

Just follow the steps a couple steps above and you don't need a image, patch or even a program like antiblaxx. Just set the compibility of FM.EXE to WINDOWS NT.
and thanks ArsenalFc.

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FOR WINDOWS 2000 follows this


Download S4h here

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZIYQ0U73

Open Daemon, Mount the image, leave Daemon open
Run S4H
Click Hide
Run the game.
and thanks ArsenalFc again !

There's no need for antiblaxx or mini image or other, just Daemon and S4h and the image...

[Joe Forster/STA]

Guys, if any CD emulator hider messes up your Alcohol 120% and/or Daemon Tools then remember that both are installed with Windows Installer which is a quite smart one. If you start uninstalling the application or you start the installation package with the application already installed, you will probably see a "Repair" function. That should copy the proper files and registry entries back where they belong. You may have to reboot but then the emulator should back in working order...! Good luck!

[Sergio_V]

What do you mean??

FOR WINDOWS XP follows this



Originally Posted by lesliedinho
Just follow the steps a couple steps above and you don't need a image, patch or even a program like antiblaxx. Just set the compibility of FM.EXE to WINDOWS NT.


I changed compibility of FM.exe (v 6.0.1) to WINDOWS NT, but it doesn't work. When i start the game, it say "Please insert of correct CD-ROM" . I don't use any program, such as Alcohol, Deamon, Anti-blaxx. I have only direstory with installed game and i haven't any image of the game.
So how i can run the game?
ArsenalFc You made mini-image, for yourself. Can you put it at the forum, or send me by mail? I haven't full image, so i can't make it.

[IMALiam]

me too@arsenal.. i dont have the Image! I'm so ****in stupid,and have deleted :mad: ... We speak about FM 2006 from Sigames/Sega or?

[scaramonga]

I don't use any program, such as Alcohol, Deamon, Anti-blaxx.

Then it wont work!

You need Daemon Tools installed with the your .mdf image loaded (after install)......then your FM.exe executable set to run in 'compatibility mode' (Win NT)......... :)

Right click Daemon in taskbar while running and select 'Emulation'...then 'All Options On'.........

Forget about BLAXX and Virtual-Hide/SR-Stop etc etc..........you dont need em!

Works great! :D

[john.216]

What do you mean??

I changed compibility of FM.exe (v 6.0.1) to WINDOWS NT, but it doesn't work. When i start the game, it say "Please insert of correct CD-ROM" . I don't use any program, such as Alcohol, Deamon, Anti-blaxx. I have only direstory with installed game and i haven't any image of the game.
So how i can run the game?
ArsenalFc You made mini-image, for yourself. Can you put it at the forum, or send me by mail? I haven't full image, so i can't make it.

scaramonga answer for me.

He says the truth ! :D

Why seems so difficult understand what is the difference between an image and a MINI image ?? :p
Use that f**kin' image to install the game !!!!

[Sergio_V]

IMALiam You are stupid! Not me!
I download from _www.cmukraine.org.ua_ a LITE version of Sigames Football Manager 2006. I download it, because it size = 50Mb. Only 50Mb, not 700Mb!!!
Now, IMALiam, you understood, why i haven't full image of FM2006? So i asked, who can send me by e-mail mini-image of SIGAMES FOOTBALL MANAGER 2006.

[scaramonga]

I feel a ban coming on here.......... :rolleyes:

[john.216]

....I have only direstory with installed game and i haven't any image of the game.....

A) If you have the original CD, you can easily make an image of your CD using alcohol or whatever you want.....then use this image (with alcohol or daemon to install).

B) If you don't have the original cd ( :mad: :eek: :mad: ) how did you setup the game ?? (...probably you used an image.....)

[Joe Forster/STA]

For your information, the archive that Sergio_V downloaded, a so-called "Chocolate Edition", is a fully functional but still copy protected rip of the FM2006; I just checked it out, out of curiosity. (Damn, my Russian is rusty... :( Anyone can gimme a full-sized picture of that yummy girl, full in chocolate?! :D)

[Sergio_V]

If you don't have the original cd ( ) how did you setup the game ?? (...probably you used an image.....)
I downloaded archive a so-called "Chocolate Edition". Its fully functional, but it size only 50 MB. It is FM2006 (Sigames), but without sound, foto, languages (only English) and skins.
So i haven't full image, but have a game.
Mini-umage - it's image with size 1-10 MB, not a 700MB. In FM 2005 mini-image have size around 3 MB.

P.S. Sorry for my bad English

[john.216]

Anyone can gimme a full-sized picture of that yummy girl, full in chocolate?! :D)

ME TOO !!

[IMALiam]

IMALiam You are stupid! Not me!
I download from _www.cmukraine.org.ua_ a LITE version of Sigames Football Manager 2006. I download it, because it size = 50Mb. Only 50Mb, not 700Mb!!!
Now, IMALiam, you understood, why i haven't full image of FM2006? So i asked, who can send me by e-mail mini-image of SIGAMES FOOTBALL MANAGER 2006.

where is your problem sergio? I have say..I'm stupid,not you! And i dont understand ukrain?! Have you a mini-image? Can you send me? :confused:

[john.216]

I downloaded archive a so-called "Chocolate Edition". Its fully functional, but it size only 50 MB. It is FM2006 (Sigames), but without sound, foto, languages (only English) and skins.
So i haven't full image, but have a game.
Mini-umage - it's image with size 1-10 MB, not a 700MB. In FM 2005 mini-image have size around 3 MB.

I think that up-to-date there is NO mini image to use with FM2006.

There are only workarounds to use a full image (from CD) for playing without having the CD into the drive.

Those w/a work great on both Windows (Xp & 2k).

I'm sorry, Sergio, but that's all. ;)

[IMALiam]

I think that up-to-date there is NO mini image to use with FM2006.

There are only workarounds to use a full image (from CD) for playing without having the CD into the drive.

Those w/a work great on both Windows (Xp & 2k).

I'm sorry, Sergio, but that's all. ;)

ok ok..but have you installed the Offical Patch? Run the game with the same preferences?!

[Sergio_V]

where is your problem sergio? I have say..I'm stupid,not you! And i dont understand ukrain?! Have you a mini-image? Can you send me?
No. I haven't mini image. I haven't full image. I haven't any image.
I have Sigames Football Manager 2006 LITE (so-called Chokolate Edition). It is small, but fully functional. But, it want a original CD with FM2006.
Arsenal F.C. made a mini-image: he began made in Alcohol a new image from downloaded full image (or from original CD), but stop a process after few seconds. And game with this mini-image (made by Alcohol, it size a few Mb) work (he said). I can't make mini-image as Arsenal F.C. because I haven't original CD or full image.
So, i ask - who can send me a mini-image, that will work, but it size will be no more than 10-15 MB. I need only mini-image, i don't need full (700Mb) image.

[Rdl.]

I am having problems playing the game. I have did that Windows NT thing but after a while playing a message pops up: FM 2006 is running low on memory please quit. It can't be my computer. I have 1024 DDR Ram and 3.2 ghz but that happens every time..

[john.216]

ok ok..but have you installed the Offical Patch? Run the game with the same preferences?!
If you mean 6.0.1, the answer is YES.

[scaramonga]

I am having problems playing the game. I have did that Windows NT thing but after a while playing a message pops up: FM 2006 is running low on memory please quit. It can't be my computer. I have 1024 DDR Ram and 3.2 ghz but that happens every time..

And it will!

This is a problem with running in NT Compatibility Mode!

Check out this thread on Sigames (you will have to register to view it)

http://community.sigames.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9522026261/m/8092070861/p/1

;)

[john.216]

I am having problems playing the game. I have did that Windows NT thing but after a while playing a message pops up: FM 2006 is running low on memory please quit. It can't be my computer. I have 1024 DDR Ram and 3.2 ghz but that happens every time..

Did you try to use the win2K w/a on WinXp ?
I'm not sure it works 'cause i didn't test it, but there's no reason to not work...

[ArsenalFc]

WHOAH, Calm down people!!!!

Firstly, Sergio_V I didn't make the mini image, I just discovered it doesn't work, and I wasn't the first, so don't credit me with that, it wasn't my work! The image I made was a FULL image of MY ORIGINAL CD. Like hundreds of others have.

Secondly, If you are on Windows XP, YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE COMPATIBILITY. With D-Tools running, and the image mounted, use the s4h program, click hide, give it 20 seconds or so to make sure it's finished then run the game. That's all. Changing compatibility will cause the memory low errors

Antonk, or whoever it was whose game keeps failing on them - I had this too.I think it's anti-blaxx's doing. Uninstall the game from ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS. do NOT do it from the FM2006 setup on the cd/image. Reinstall it and you should be fine to go. That worked for me! (I'm on XP Pro)

Whoever got the 50mb "flavoured" copies, well done you downloaded either a bogus (possibly viral) file, or the demo.

For whoever asked, I'm not Italian, London born n bred. Me ol' china.


So. Install the game. If you have it installed and it's being troublesome, uninstall it and reinstall it
Uninstall antiblaxx
start D-Tools
mount the image
Open s4h
Click hide
Give it a few seconds (I found if you immediately open FM2006 you're not giving it enough time and it asks for the disc. If this happens, click Restore in s4h, wait 10 seconds, click hide, wait ten seconds)
Run the game.

For Windows 2000 I don't know if you need a different method, I only have XP Pro, but let me know if the s4h method works as well as it does on XP.

To save confusoin here, feel free to PM me FOR ADVICE.

I will NOT send any images. I will NOT send any mini images. The only thing I WILL send is a link to s4h and I WILL report anyone who requests image files.

[Elky24]

Hi

I have gone to create an image of my CD but one hour has gone and I'm at 1% - should it really take this long? Does it speed up at all? I'm using Alcohol 120% to do this but all I get are read errors (which I understand are normal for the first 3%) but is it really going to take days to create this image?

Cheers for your help

Elky

[leezer3]

Its because your CD drive doesn't support the fast error skip function. Go away & leave it for a couple of hours and you will be fine.

-Leezer-

[scaramonga]

Its been said MANY times!!

DO NOT use ANTI-BLAXX!

DO NOT use SR-STOP!

DO NOT use Virtual-Hide!

USE a PROPER .mdf image created from your ORIGINAL copy!

USE Daemon Tools!

:)

[loq]

So. Install the game. If you have it installed and it's being troublesome, uninstall it and reinstall it
Uninstall antiblaxx
start D-Tools
mount the image
Open s4h
Click hide
Give it a few seconds (I found if you immediately open FM2006 you're not giving it enough time and it asks for the disc. If this happens, click Restore in s4h, wait 10 seconds, click hide, wait ten seconds)
Run the game.


This doesn't work for me mate...

[Crouch]

Omfg!!!!!

Okay Listen Up! Load The Cd Image In Deamon Tools!

Install The Game!!!

After Installing Get Virtual Cd Hide Hide The Frekin Emulator And Play!!!!

No Problems Tested On A Lot Of Different Configurations Works All Over!!!!!

There!!!!

No Need To Make A 20 Page Thread Fuss About It!!!!

[loq]

Omfg!!!!!

Okay Listen Up! Load The Cd Image In Deamon Tools!

Install The Game!!!

After Installing Get Virtual Cd Hide Hide The Frekin Emulator And Play!!!!

No Problems Tested On A Lot Of Different Configurations Works All Over!!!!!

There!!!!

No Need To Make A 20 Page Thread Fuss About It!!!!

That doesn't work either.

[jasson]

Have you tried the method I posted earlier? If not heres a quick summary:

Make sure your image is .mdf format, from Alcohol 120%
Install Daemon Tools, mount the .mds image and EXIT DAEMON TOOLS. This means it should NOT be running in your taskbar at all!
Install and run AntiBlaxx. Right click on the icon in your taskbar and click on Settings.
Click the button next to Deamon Tools in the popup window and browse to the .exe file.
In the "Protection" box select "SecuROM 5"
Click the button next to the "Game" field and browse to the fm.exe file wherever you installed the game.
Tick the box that says "Mount Image", make sure that the circular box next to Daemon Tools to the right of this is selected, then click the button next to the Image box and browse to the mds file. Finally make sure device is set to Device 0 (assuming you didn't ceate additional virtual drives in Daemon Tools)

When all this is done, make sure Daemon Tools IS NOT RUNNING and right click the anti-blaxx icon, go up to Run Game and select the only one in there (default name is simply Gamename).

Now it will seem like nothing is happening. Double click the FM2006 shortcut on your desktop and an error box apppears saying the game is already running. Click the button to close that error message and wait a moment, the game will load. After that you should be able to run it from antiblaxx everytime you want to play.

AntiBlaxx show me this msg
1) [An error occured during loading the settings!All settings are restored.]
2) [Anti-Black generates a backup automatically. Pleased ..............]
3) [Run-time error '5': Invalid procedure call or arguement.]

what exactly happen?

[ily]

hey [new to the forum!!]

i recently got fm 2006, what a great game and have been reading what u guys do to run the game without the cd. its great , so i did it, got the image in mds and mdf files and then loaded it on to daemon and ran the game after changing compatability to windows nt service pack 5.

so all was going great.....but then...

come Jan 2006 (in the game - specifically 6th jan if anyone else gets the same error) - the game shuts down after an error . its a windows error that creates a dmp file in the program files folder for the game.

now everytime i load my save up again, the error appears, exactly the same day. its really annoying because i cant get past the 6th.

does anyone else have the same problem and could anyone advise on what to do?

thanks
ilyas

hey guys - ok so same problem. i've reinstalled fm 2006 and made a new image, the patch is in , everything, but when i'm running n get to jan it just crashes and puts a file into the program files folder, dmp file, and says that there was an error in the application.

does anyone get the same thing as me?

please help :(

ilyas

[Duff11]

WHOAH, Calm down people!!!!

Firstly, Sergio_V I didn't make the mini image, I just discovered it doesn't work, and I wasn't the first, so don't credit me with that, it wasn't my work! The image I made was a FULL image of MY ORIGINAL CD. Like hundreds of others have.

Secondly, If you are on Windows XP, YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE COMPATIBILITY. With D-Tools running, and the image mounted, use the s4h program, click hide, give it 20 seconds or so to make sure it's finished then run the game. That's all. Changing compatibility will cause the memory low errors

Antonk, or whoever it was whose game keeps failing on them - I had this too.I think it's anti-blaxx's doing. Uninstall the game from ADD/REMOVE PROGRAMS. do NOT do it from the FM2006 setup on the cd/image. Reinstall it and you should be fine to go. That worked for me! (I'm on XP Pro)

Whoever got the 50mb "flavoured" copies, well done you downloaded either a bogus (possibly viral) file, or the demo.

For whoever asked, I'm not Italian, London born n bred. Me ol' china.


So. Install the game. If you have it installed and it's being troublesome, uninstall it and reinstall it
Uninstall antiblaxx
start D-Tools
mount the image
Open s4h
Click hide
Give it a few seconds (I found if you immediately open FM2006 you're not giving it enough time and it asks for the disc. If this happens, click Restore in s4h, wait 10 seconds, click hide, wait ten seconds)
Run the game.

For Windows 2000 I don't know if you need a different method, I only have XP Pro, but let me know if the s4h method works as well as it does on XP.

To save confusoin here, feel free to PM me FOR ADVICE.

I will NOT send any images. I will NOT send any mini images. The only thing I WILL send is a link to s4h and I WILL report anyone who requests image files.


does this method work with the new patch released by sigames?

[leezer3]

Yes, it works. Anyway, S4H in itself is not totally necessary, any of the Safedisc or Securom hiders will do- All it does it to deny read permission to the DT/ Alcohol virtual drive reg keys, a trick that has been around for ages.

-Leezer-

[chewy21]

what is S4H?

[irishkid]

well i used ANTI-BLAXX! and it worked fine for me, using the image file i created from my original disk! i did use other programmes and they didnt work! like deamon tools, which has worked for other games for me in the past!

[typnhp]

i used antiblaxx in my office (XPSP1) and all worked fine but not worked at home (XPSP2), what's wrong?

[Gwan]

swoosh3k your a legend! i registered just to say that! cheers mate :)

OMG! it works! just like him, i registered just to say thanks! thanks man!! really appreciate it! :D :D :D

[Joe Forster/STA]

@typnhp: There are lots of other programs like Anti-Blaxx: SR7.Stop, Virtual CD Hide. See the "CD/DVD Hide Utilities" section at http://cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_utils_8.shtml .

[Karlo22]

Hi, I'm looking for a crack for the 6.0.1 patch for FM2006. Is it out yet?

Many, many, many thanks for the one that makes it :D

[seecow]

nothing seems to work for me .
isn't there nobody who has a no-cd/dvd crack or something :confused: :confused:
where can i find a download link for s4h ??
PM ME pls

[xavier2k3]

I am having problems playing the game. I have did that Windows NT thing but after a while playing a message pops up: FM 2006 is running low on memory please quit. It can't be my computer. I have 1024 DDR Ram and 3.2 ghz but that happens every time..

this is a known issue. people who actually own the game on cd have the error as well. it's to do with safedisc protection. There is a huge topic on the official si games forums here: Si games Memory Crash Bug (http://community.sigames.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9522026261/m/8092070861/p/4)

SI games are fixing it...:

Fill out this form here, the more replies, the faster they can fix it!:
Memory Issue (http://community.sigames.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9522026261/m/3362096961)

regards
--marty

[Gwan]

Hi, I'm looking for a crack for the 6.0.1 patch for FM2006. Is it out yet?

Many, many, many thanks for the one that makes it :D

i followed Swoosh3k method and it works. that's after i patched the game. just try. change the compatibility to "NT SP5 and above" given that the CD image is already in your virtual drive.

[john.216]

what is S4H?

Download S4h here

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZIYQ0U73


Also for the other asking the same: the link was posted on page 17.

Read before asking!!

[Karlo22]

i followed Swoosh3k method and it works. that's after i patched the game. just try. change the compatibility to "NT SP5 and above" given that the CD image is already in your virtual drive.
That's good news. So I just install the patch and then change the compatibility into 'Windows NT Service Pack 5' and it works? I already have a virtual FM2006-drive made with Daemon Tools.

[Gwan]

That's good news. So I just install the patch and then change the compatibility into 'Windows NT Service Pack 5' and it works? I already have a virtual FM2006-drive made with Daemon Tools.

yup. should be. i'm playing the game now. but i'm worried about that "January 2006" bug.

[acarlosc]

That's good news. So I just install the patch and then change the compatibility into 'Windows NT Service Pack 5' and it works? I already have a virtual FM2006-drive made with Daemon Tools.

but, do you still need the image made with alcohol 120%?
:confused:

[Karlo22]

yup. should be. i'm playing the game now. but i'm worried about that "January 2006" bug.
You rule :cool:

[linux_boy]

I cannot start FM06... i have downloaded the file. mount it with Deamon Tools. started the icon on desktop and it says: You have no CD in drive.. why ?

[BrOwen]

hello. My problem started kinda odd. I downloaded FM-2006, 700 MB image file, using torrent. burnt it on a CD, then installed game from CD, not image. then I installed patch, v6.0.1. Then run the game, started new game, added 2 managers, after all done, saved it, then exited. I've done these without using any virtual drive utility and/or hide utility, such as sd4, anti-blaxx, etc. I had to save and exit the game then, cause I didnt have time to play it.

But, 2 days later, today, I wanted to play it, and tried to run it, but it gave me correct cd error!!! How could this be? Then, I created mini image using alcohol 120%, mount it using daemon tools, used sd4 but same thing, game doesnt run!!! used anti-blaxx. no way. what do you recommend?

Best regards


BrOwen

[KaneUK]

I've uploaded a PDF to GameCopyWorld of step by step instructions how to get Football Manager working with no CD. I've tried to make it very straight forward. Hopefully they'll publish it on their website soon :)

Have a look here (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=73110&highlight=Football+Manager+2006) what is required.

[BrOwen]

Hello again. I finally make the game run. Problem is, mini-image doesnt work.

Load full image using Daemon tools, and run SD4, click "hide", wait few secs. Then run the game. it runs without any problem. Tried lots of times to be sure.

Btw, you dont have to enable "emulation" on Daemon tools.
You dont have to change compatibility to NT. No need. At least not on XP-Pro-SP2.

but I need to know something. if any friend knows how to make a proper mini-image using alcohol or any other software, please tell me? I tried it according to guide which was given in this topic, but, as I said, didnt work.

Regards



BrOwen

[xavier2k3]

i've got a working image and crack if anyone's interested...you'll have to PM though as you can't talk about it here.

regards
--marty

[jjm907]

this is how i got it working.

Load image in Alchohol. (make sure it is the latest version of Alchohol or it will not work)

Install the game like normal.

Then under the fm.exe in the directory.

right click choose properties, then under the compatibility tab, select WindowsNT (service pack 5) then hit apply.

Then run the shortcut off the desktop and it should work fine. You DO NOT need Anti-Blax or Sh4. Just follow the above instructions and it will work fine!!

[acarlosc]

this is how i got it working.

right click choose properties, then under the compatibility tab, select WindowsNT (service pack 5) then hit apply.

Then run the shortcut off the desktop and it should work fine. You DO NOT need Anti-Blax or Sh4. Just follow the above instructions and it will work fine!!

you cannot do this because it will cause the "low memory" bug and the "january 2006" bug also... :rolleyes:

[franksmule]

i can tell you that on 4 computer I tested it on this method worked 100% fine. (the ntmethod)

Im in january 2008 btw. And no crashes.


But the safedisk hide method DOESNT WORK on my computer... There must be massive diffrence on how to get it to work. Its gotta be the image.

EDIT...

I have managed to get the SD4 hide method working, I had 2 virtual drives (deamon tools and alcohol) disabled the alcohol one mounted it on the deamon drive and it worked fine.

Two methods to run it that work flawlessly on my machine. (WINXP SP2)

[irishkid]

i used antiblaxx in my office (XPSP1) and all worked fine but not worked at home (XPSP2), what's wrong?
i have service pack 2 and it works fine for me!

[markl187ld]

There's a crack over at g a m e b u r n w o r l d but I haven't tested it.

edit: nevermind it's just a stupid guide.

[Paragon2006]

How do i make an image with Alcohol 120%? I tried to do it, but when i went to load it in DAEMON Tools, it said "Unable to mount image. Invalid image file" :confused: I done it as securom 4/5 is that right? Hope someone can help, as im getting fed up keeping putting that disc in! :D


Thanks in advance

[BrOwen]

Hello everybody;

My friend asked for my about a problem. I didnt come up with anything so decided to ask your opinions.

We make the game running by using "full image-daemon-sd4" method. I was able to pass through everything without any problem, started new game, then saved it. But my friend said, after he adds new manager then hit "continue", game gives him an error like "array access out of bounds". But doesnt close, keeps running. Then when everything is done, installed, he trys to save the game, it gives the same error but this time closes itself. What does it mean? What does he have to do?

Best regards



BrOwen

[Robbos]

I figured it out finally...

On my PC I got it to work like this: (Anti-Blaxx or what Sweesh said didn't work for me)...

1. Make sure the compatibility is set to Windows 2000.
2. Get Daemon Tools 3.47 and mount your FM2006 image.
3. Get Vitrual CD HIDE 1.0.04 and launch it (hide all virtual drives).
4. Run the game.
5. Enjoy

This worked for me (but using NT4 sp 5).
Of course its the CD HIDE thats the real key here (Game burn world (without the spaces) has a copy)

Props to Dokok for going the extra yard.

Also, regarding the crack at gamecopyworld -: tried it, its for the beta test game version, it DOESNT allow you to create a new game.
And the game burn world crack is just a txt file with the above instructions (but without the virtual cd hide)...nice!

[superjack]

Anyone know how to play the game using Win98.

All those guides say u need to change compatibility so looks like they're intended for XP users.

Or Win98 users need to wait for the crack ? :(

[FIX77]

I cant seem to get the crack/image to work!!:mad: can someone please help me??

[erikkezman]

I cant seem to get the crack/image to work!!:mad: can someone please help me??

Me too!!!:mad:

[XXX-Dragon]

DL this:
http://rapidshare.de/files/6958204/Dragon-Hacker_safedisc4.rar.html

No more problem with d-tools and no more need NT mode just untick your NT mode. Very easy to use BTW.

[Bikerbob]

So do we have a verdict on the NT compatibility method?

Is this usable? will it screw up games? saved games?

This is the only way I have been able to get it to work on my laptop, which is the reason I want no cd..
Any other threads out there that deal just with this?

thanks

[oggy4kelly]

DL this:
http://rapidshare.de/files/6958204/D...disc4.rar.html

No more problem with d-tools and no more need NT mode just untick your NT mode. Very easy to use BTW.

i cant get this to download, i click the free option and it loads another page and no download starts, could somebody please send this to me. thanks

[XXX-Dragon]

i cant get this to download, i click the free option and it loads another page and no download starts, could somebody please send this to me. thanks

Try here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A6BGSHD6 as an alternative.

[thangphong]

could any one test the thing dragon said first? cause i kind of smell a scam or virus here. People said get the mds from my original cd but where the heck is the thing?

[XXX-Dragon]

could any one test the thing dragon said first? cause i kind of smell a scam or virus here. People said get the mds from my original cd but where the heck is the thing?

What the F++K are u talking about????? U can scan it with your anti-virus first. Next time, when someone tried to help, stop accusing things they do not do. :mad: You are an As*H**E you know that? :mad: :mad: Also why not scan it yourself and stop asking someone to do things for u as if U are our boss! :mad:

[thangphong]

sorry sorry, i did try you thing but all i got is a document of words.

[LoedD]

@ XXX-dragon

"Mod of 4 Warez-sites"

What does that mean?:confused:

[XXX-Dragon]

sorry sorry, i did try you thing but all i got is a document of words.

What sort of joke is this? You need WINRAR to unRAR it.

[scaramonga]

What the F++K are u talking about????? U can scan it with your anti-virus first. Next time, when someone tried to help, stop accusing things they do not do. You are an As*H**E you know that? Also why not scan it yourself and stop asking someone to do things for u as if U are our boss!

You'll need heart surgery soon I guess? :rolleyes: ;)

[typnhp]

@xavier2k3: i've emailed you but still get no answer, what's wrong?

[thangphong]

ok here is my problem, i got anti blaxx and deamon and i know i did every thing right but how come when i click on the game, it just won't load up, it didn't give me any note at all. does it has to do with my video card driver or something else? if any one know how to solve this issue, please help me.

[theguy]

Step by step guide to load FM2006 without your CD in drive
(only for the first step you need the original CD)

No need of anti-blaxx, virtual hide, MINI_IMG, etc. you only need Alcohol (trail) or Demon Tools (freeware)

Worked on Windows XP Home SP2 without any problems

_________________________________________

Step 1. Make an image of your original CD by following step 1 of franksmule guide. click here (http://www.loosewire.co.uk/fm/)

Step 2. Disable the real DVD & CD Drives.
-> Right click on My Computer and select Properties.
-> Under Hardware tab click on Device Manager
-> In the Device Manager window click on the + sign near DVD/CD-ROM drives to expand it.
-> Right-click on each of the real (not virtual) drives and select Disable and click OK.

Step 3. Change compatibility mode of fm.exe to Windows NT 4.0 (SP 5).
-> Follow step 3 of franksmule guide if you don't know how. click here (http://www.loosewire.co.uk/fm/)

Step 4. Mount the full image that was made in Step 1 by using Acohol or Daemon Tools

Step 5. Double-click on the Football Manager 2006 shortcut on the desktop and have fun playing without the CD in drive.

_________________________________________

Note: To re-anable the DVD/CD-ROMs you need to follow Step 2, but instead of selecting Disable, select Enable.

[acarlosc]

perfect! :D

[MrBillion]

Ahhrrrgg... My CD-rom is broken so I need a no-cd crack or mini image. Just bought the freakin' game, installed it and I'm not able to play it. Can anyone please help me?? Where can I find the mini image? Thanksh...

[DiRtYcHeAt]

ok here is my problem, i got anti blaxx and deamon and i know i did every thing right but how come when i click on the game, it just won't load up, it didn't give me any note at all. does it has to do with my video card driver or something else? if any one know how to solve this issue, please help me.


i have the same problem but slightly different.

i installed and got fm 06 to workl for about a week but then when i tryed to load them it wouldnt load. so i pressed ctrl + alt + delete and saw that after 20 secs it disapered from the processes list completly. the antiblaxxx sems to work fine and so does daemon tools.

please HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused:

[DarkLeftos]

Step by step guide to load FM2006 without your CD in drive
(only for the first step you need the original CD)

No need of anti-blaxx, virtual hide, MINI_IMG, etc. you only need Alcohol (trail) or Demon Tools (freeware)

Worked on Windows XP Home SP2 without any problems

_________________________________________

Step 1. Make an image of your original CD by following step 1 of franksmule guide. click here (http://www.loosewire.co.uk/fm/)

Step 2. Disable the real DVD & CD Drives.
-> Right click on My Computer and select Properties.
-> Under Hardware tab click on Device Manager
-> In the Device Manager window click on the + sign near DVD/CD-ROM drives to expand it.
-> Right-click on each of the real (not virtual) drives and select Disable and click OK.

Step 3. Change compatibility mode of fm.exe to Windows NT 4.0 (SP 5).
-> Follow step 3 of franksmule guide if you don't know how. click here (http://www.loosewire.co.uk/fm/)

Step 4. Mount the full image that was made in Step 1 by using Acohol or Daemon Tools

Step 5. Double-click on the Football Manager 2006 shortcut on the desktop and have fun playing without the CD in drive.

_________________________________________

Note: To re-anable the DVD/CD-ROMs you need to follow Step 2, but instead of selecting Disable, select Enable.

Nice guide you've put up there, but for me it all worked without even needing to go through Step 2. Are you sure it's a needed step? It worked without it for me.

[leezer3]

As far as I can see, step 2 & step 3 are unncessary. It has always played on mine with no need for step 2. Step 3 is likely to cause out of memory crashes!! (Read the Sigames support forum for those who don't believe me)
Also, use of the S4H proggie mentioned earlier in this thread may be necessary if you didn't change your DT/ Alchohol driver names. Otherwise you should be fine :D

Cheers

-Leezer-

[superjack]

So all methods only for WinXP ?

Any way to play it on 98 ? :(

[DiRtYcHeAt]

So all methods only for WinXP ?

Any way to play it on 98 ? :(

go on programs- sports interactive and right click on fm.exe, click properties and change the compatibility, tell me if this works.

[mightyrob]

I have a problem with FM2006 using win2000.

Everything starts up fine, use anti-blaxx. No problem at all.

But when the game is on; Straight under 'Player Name' you are suppose to see his position, for example 'Defensive Midfielder', but get some kind of numeric-code instead, like '12134235'. Most annoying.

I installed it on my brothers winxp and he had not my problem, so it is not the installation (I have re-installed and tried the latest patch) or image-file that is the problem.

Can anyone PLEASE help me???

Thanks,
Robert

[ViNcEnZo]

Step by step guide to load FM2006 without your CD in drive
(only for the first step you need the original CD)

No need of anti-blaxx, virtual hide, MINI_IMG, etc. you only need Alcohol (trail) or Demon Tools (freeware)

Worked on Windows XP Home SP2 without any problems

_________________________________________

Step 1. Make an image of your original CD by following step 1 of franksmule guide. click here (http://www.loosewire.co.uk/fm/)

Step 2. Disable the real DVD & CD Drives.
-> Right click on My Computer and select Properties.
-> Under Hardware tab click on Device Manager
-> In the Device Manager window click on the + sign near DVD/CD-ROM drives to expand it.
-> Right-click on each of the real (not virtual) drives and select Disable and click OK.

Step 3. Change compatibility mode of fm.exe to Windows NT 4.0 (SP 5).
-> Follow step 3 of franksmule guide if you don't know how. click here (http://www.loosewire.co.uk/fm/)

Step 4. Mount the full image that was made in Step 1 by using Acohol or Daemon Tools

Step 5. Double-click on the Football Manager 2006 shortcut on the desktop and have fun playing without the CD in drive.

_________________________________________

Note: To re-anable the DVD/CD-ROMs you need to follow Step 2, but instead of selecting Disable, select Enable.


Worked for my 2 PCs (Win XP SP1 and SP2).

Thanks!!!

[Rulli]

can someone please answer in private message how i get the mini image?

Thanks

[nimz13]

:rolleyes: I brought the original Football Manager 2006 yesterday and spend £30 on it! can someone explain to me how i can make a back up copy of it so i don't damage the original....:confused:

[theguy]

:rolleyes: I brought the original Football Manager 2006 yesterday and spend £30 on it! can someone explain to me how i can make a back up copy of it so i don't damage the original....:confused:

-> Insert the FM2006 CD in your drive (obvious :D ).
-> Run Alcohol (if you have it).
-> On the left-hand panel click on Image Making Wizard and the wizad opens.
-> Select the drive where there is FM2006 and select your prefered Read Speed (by default Maximum).
-> Tick Skip reading errors and leave the others unticked.
-> Click Next>.
-> Name the image, select where you want to save it and Start making the image.

___________________________________________

Note: While making the image a number of error messages will occur (until ~3%), ignore them and let Alcohol work even if it takes long.

[nimz13]

Do i have to burn this image onto a cd then run it from my cd drive?

[Zoolok]

Could someone please PM me some info about the mini-image? A link would be nice =)

[jambo89]

if someone has an image or crack, can they upload it to Game burn/copy world?

[theguy]

Do i have to burn this image onto a cd then run it from my cd drive?

NO, because the scope of the Step by Step guide is to avoid inserting the CD in drive.:p

So when you've done the full image of FM2006 then just mount it with Alcohol or Daemon Tools.

(remember to change the compatibility of fm.exe)

[biodraft]

i followed the steps "Step by step guide to load FM2006 without your CD in drive" but i still cant get my game running. it says insert cdrom. i tried all the methods but still cant work for me :(

just to check, my cd has these folders and files inside: MAC and PC

and the following files: 0000001.tmp, 00000003.tmp, autorun, autorun, drvmtg.dll and secrv

you guys have the same as well?

[ionuto]

I have win2000 and everything I do the message with insert the cd apears. I have the cd, I have the image but it wont work. I would like to ask someone who has fm2006 on win2000 how he managed to solve this problem.

[Inferno_11]

the guides links aint workin.....ok someone jus simplyfy it...ive got a original copy of game, wat do i make a image of???? <-- (key question) and do i use damoen? once image mounted on damoen how do i install the game?

forget the technical language plz.

thank u

[theguy]

Step by step guide to run Football Manager 2006 without CD in drive
Updated and Revised
_________________________________________

Step 1. Install Football Manager 2006 :D

Step 2. Make an image of your original CD
-> Insert the FM2006 CD in your drive (obvious :D ).
-> Run Alcohol (if you have it).
-> On the left-hand panel click on Image Making Wizard and the wizad opens.
-> Select the drive where there is FM2006 and select your prefered Read Speed (by default Maximum).
-> Tick Skip reading errors and leave the others unticked.
-> Click Next>.
-> Name the image, select where you want to save it and Start making the image.

Step 3. (Optional) Disable the real DVD & CD Drives.
-> Right click on My Computer and select Properties.
-> Under Hardware tab click on Device Manager
-> In the Device Manager window click on the + sign near DVD/CD-ROM drives to expand it.
-> Right-click on each of the real (not virtual) drives and select Disable and click OK.

Step 4. Change compatibility mode of fm.exe to Windows NT 4.0 (SP 5).
-> Right-click on the shortcut of Football Manager 2006 in the desktop and select Properties.
-> Under Compatibility tab tick in the box near Run this program in compatibility mode for:
-> Form the Drop-down menu select Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 5).
-> Click OK

Step 5. Mount the full image (not the MINI_IMG) by using Acohol or Daemon Tools.
-> Make sure that no emulation is on when using Daemon Tools (System Tray Icon is RED not GREEN)

Step 6. Double-click on the Football Manager 2006 shortcut on the desktop and play.

_________________________________________

Note: To re-enable the DVD/CD-ROMs you need to follow Step 3, but instead of selecting Disable, select Enable.

[yandao]

Ehz,everytime I run the game using the programs like daemon tools,alcohol and anti-blaxx, there's always an error message appearing saying that the application has encountered an error and needs to close. Haizz.. Can any1 offer some advice please? I using windows xp. Thanks alot

[jockscot1]

Have tried everything to load game (anti-blaxx, safedisc4 hider and the NT compatability way) and still won't load. When i first installed the game it worked no problem in NT mode but now it doesn't load. I opened the windows task manager when attempting to load like this and noticed that the fm.exe file appears but it only stays for a couple of seconds and disappears?!

Any tips anyone please?

Also when using the anti-blaxx method, when selecting securom 5 protection, it says this can't be recognised and to choose a protection manually.

This is doing my head in!!!!:mad: Any help appreciated. Cheers!

[king_damo]

i also need a mini-image has i have the game but me and my brother went halfs on the game and when he is on the game i carnt go on the game.
can somebody please send me a mini-image so i can mount with demon tools? thank you

[Sidius]

Guys hi, this is my first post about this great game!
I have a very good way to run your game without the cd.
1. Go downtown and buy the Original Fifa manager 2006 game! The guys have done a great Job and we need to support by buying the game!
2. After installing the game, copy Paste all the files in cd3 to the hard disk. (make sure to have show hiden files on)
3. Use your burning software to make one image NRG (Nero Disk Image) with the data you have on your computer.
4. Use Alcohol 120% to make an ISO file (ignore read errors).
make sure you have daemon up and running.
5. Load the NRG image to Daemon and the ISO image on Alcohol! Even if the autorun says to insert the proper disk you make sure to also run the game from the Desktop Icon.
Most of the times it works right away. But you may need to mount unmount the images in random order 2 or max 3 times. (Remember to no rely on the Auto run message . Once you mount the images run the game from the Desktop shortcut.
I Know it works in W2k and WINXP Pro .
I hope it helps!
Sidius

[Zoolok]

Thanks for the effort, but all of us here are waiting (hoping) for a Football Manager 2006 mini-image, not FIFA Manager mini-image :)

[Inferno_11]

its says earlier in this topic that u cant use a mini image, u need a full image of the game which i think takes hours to create using alcohol 120%, i have tried it with my mini image that i created from the original game and it dont work, i mounted it on daemon tools and clicked on the desktop icon but no luck, i even tried changing the compatibility, i really cant be bothered to spend hours creating a full image....must be a better way!!!!!!!!???????

[Zulu]

@inferno_11
If your drives aren't capable of fast skipping read errors, you could try the "fastdump"-Method as described in Daemon Tools Help -> Manual
It still works for Safedisc 3/4 (but i haven't tested newest versions :rolleyes: ):

1. Enable safedisc emulation *
2. Install the game you want to backup
3. Start the game, and wait until the safedisc check is over (you usually see a splash screen while it is safedisc checking)
4. Exit the program and do NOT remove the CD
5. Run your burning program (a list of suitable burning programs can be found here)
6. Start image creation or copying
7. You might see a list of errors for up to 20 seconds, which is normal

* also works with "Extra Emulation/BAD sectors emulation" of Alcohol 120%

[jockscot1]

Still not working properly. Un-installed FM2006 and re-installed it and the NT method worked for me, same as it did the first time. After exiting the game and re-booting my computer it stopped working again. Means i've got to un-install and then re-install every time to play the game!! Nightmare! Any ideas? Cheers.

[registrau]

It doesn't work with the method u guys say:

I installed the game, mounted an alcohol image ith DT 3.47, then I used the sd4hide program, and yet it doesn't play cause it says it detects a virtual drive...

So it does NOT work on all machines.

I don't want to use the NT compatibility method, cause it causes crashes when you play. I don't want to use anti blaxx cause Iheard its a crappy program that causes problems.

So I guess I'm out of luck ;(

[jockscot1]

My game is now working. Uninstalled and then re-installed game. Got it to work using the NT method and by not importing any player pics, kits, club logos etc. from my football manager 2005 folder which i have done previously. Not sure why this would affect it though?! Also downloaded latest fm.exe build type file from the SI website. Might have something to do with that?! Hope this helps some people to get it working.

[typnhp]

i can play with alcohol and s4h but still get the memory problem (not use nt4 mode, newest 6.01 patch), after 1h, memory used in taskmanager is about 800M then out of memory, what's up?

[Ferhat]

does the no cd work with the new patch ?

[baza72]

Hi people i have been keeping an i on this thread as i too am keen to have fm2006 running without cd, i may have a solution for you, it appears to work on first impressions, but need some of you guys to help test it over a period of time.

first make a image of your original fm2006 cd

download and install Daemon tools v4 and enable safedisc emulation then mount the image

install from image, once installation complete download and apply the official 6.0.1 patch

Then before running the game disable all optical drives from device manager

Play the game!!!

did'nt have to use any other software, works for me anyhow, hope this is of help, as i said have'nt tested fully as i have literally only just discovered this.

[Robbos]

All you guys who have successfully used the compatibility mode to play the game...

Have any of you managed to get the game beyond the end of the first season.

Mine mysteriously crashes at the same point, different games...etc.

Let me know!

[baza72]

1. mount full image in damon tools v4
2. no need for any emulation of protection,hiding doftware,changinging compatibility just disable optical drives in device manager.
(this method may actually work in daemon v3.47 can't say i've tried)

Thats it! have played repeatidly with no probs

There is now a miniaimage available on gamecopy world, this does not appear to work when i tried it but then again i have'nt bothered to use any "hiding" software or the windows nt compatibility trick as suggested in the readme.

[tomdaman23]

1. mount full image in damon tools v4
2. no need for any emulation of protection,hiding doftware,changinging compatibility just disable optical drives in device manager.
(this method may actually work in daemon v3.47 can't say i've tried)

Thats it! have played repeatidly with no probs

There is now a miniaimage available on gamecopy world, this does not appear to work when i tried it but then again i have'nt bothered to use any "hiding" software or the windows nt compatibility trick as suggested in the readme.

i tried that and it did not work

this did thou

1. install patch 6.0.1
2. Demon tools 4
3. Mount original image u did
4. put mode on windows 4 nt
5 disable drive

[typnhp]

only use daemon-tools 4.0 with FULL image (not work with MINI image from gamecopyworld), no hiding software, no nt4 mode needed!

[Robbos]

1. mount full image in damon tools v4
2. no need for any emulation of protection,hiding doftware,changinging compatibility just disable optical drives in device manager.
(this method may actually work in daemon v3.47 can't say i've tried)

Thats it! have played repeatidly with no probs

There is now a miniaimage available on gamecopy world, this does not appear to work when i tried it but then again i have'nt bothered to use any "hiding" software or the windows nt compatibility trick as suggested in the readme.

I take that by this you mean you have taken the game past june 2006?

[baza72]

I take that by this you mean you have taken the game past june 2006?

Not yet but i'll let you know when i do, i can't see it being a problem

By the way all you windows 2000 users out there might like to know that using the same method works just as well. just reboot after disabling the optical drives

[typnhp]

just use daemon-tools 4.0 with FULL image, no disabling the optical drives needed, past june 2006 like a charm, only take 2 much memory while playing (about 800M)!

[Bazuka]

How need's a crack??? no bodie!!!!!!

Microsoft provides you with the best tool you could want!!!

The compatibility mode with older windows versions!!!!

So to run the Football Manager 2006, all you need to do is to go to the proprieties menu, them go to the compatibility marker, and them chose Work under windows nt4(version 5)

That's all, no need for crack's, no need for mini images, no need to install any thing!!!

Now just play!

[Bazuka]

I almost forgot!!!

Say good bye to the error messages!

And if they appear, that's because your windows is having problem's or is badly installed!!!

So go bye que eu good fico!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[mothafokka_17]

I have a Problem. I had mounted the mds file with daemon tools a few weeks ago. Then i've played the game but I've deleated daemon tools. Now I've installed daemon tools again and when I try to mount the image it says: not able to mount image, image not accesable. And I've tried everything: anti-blax, alcohol...

Can someone please help me I really wanna play that game. Why can't i mount anymore?

[DABhand]

Make a new image of your original disc

[mothafokka_17]

I don't know how to do that, can someone make a image for me and upload it. Please?

[Joe Forster/STA]

Read the "How to make your own mini image" thread for more infos.

[Sigmaster]

Hi, have made an mini image for the german version of fm 2006 its 4,8MB big.

http://rapidshare.de/files/5835028/FM06_MI.rar.html

mfg
andre2779
fdfdf

[yousefheikal]

thanks

[yousefheikal]

Hi, have made an mini image for the german version of fm 2006 its 4,8MB big.

http://rapidshare.de/files/5835028/FM06_MI.rar.html

mfg
andre2779
thanks

[bobbyzam]

I have tried all the methods shown on this thread particularly Arsenal FC's with no sucess. The main problem I get with most methods is FM.exe has to close as an error is shown. With some methods is says use the correct CD but generally i get the error report, has anybody got any solutions to this particulary problem, its driving me mad

[mikee_j]

why doesn't someone post up the full image (which works) onto gamecopyworld????

or someone could pm me with where to find it!

[Joe Forster/STA]

Or you can read the FAQ and make your own images.

[mikee_j]

Or you can read the FAQ and make your own images.

or someone could be nice enough to show me the where i can find it online! sharing caring bunch aren't you :(

[Mako_DK]

Because the full image is 770Mb and if it were available for download, connected to this thread on workarounds for Virtual CDs that would effectively be warez. We'd be saying to people "HERE'S an image of the disc, HERE'S how to run it, have the game without paying" whereas all we're trying to do is protect our original CDs.

It's simple, whatever disc you installed the game from, make an image in alcohol 120%. If you used an image mounted on a virtual drive, THAT'S the one you want to point anti-blaxx to in order to get it working.

I can't think why else it would work for me and that other lad who followed my steps but no one else

And whateverandever.......... WHICH mds is this? What size is it? If it's the mini image from this thread, that's the wrong one.

ArsenalFC, you're the MAN!! I've been messing about, trying to get it to work for hours. Honestly, I have no idea why it works all of a sudden, but your suggestion was the last one I've tried. Thanks buddy!

[Arka]

Does somebody know how to play the game with the latest patch 6.0.2 without cd ? is it even possible or do we have to wait for a no cd crack 6.0.2 ??

[Michelle Z]

Hi Andre 2779 !!!

Möchte mir auch gern das Spiel FM 06 runterladen habe das aber leider noch nie gemacht und weiß absolut nicht wie ich vorgehen muss. Kannst du mir bitte dabei helfen? Danke!! Lg Michelle

[Michelle Z]

( es kann mir auch selbstverstädnlich jemand andres helfen)

[Grumpy]

@Michelle Z
1. Do NOT double post!
2. English only please! It is an English only Forum. ;)

[Michelle Z]

okay but my english isnt really good!
I want to download Fußball Manager 06 German Version but i dont know how. Can somebody help me? Please describe it exactly! Thanks. Michelle

[Grumpy]

@Michelle Z
You had better read the forum rules! This is NOT a warez site!! Downloading games is actually illegal!!! Go and Purchase it from a shop!! :rolleyes:

[Michelle Z]

and the image datei ?

[Joe Forster/STA]

No "image datei", go to a shop and buy the game! Please, don't make us ban you, okay?

[Michelle Z]

sorry ....

[baza72]

Does somebody know how to play the game with the latest patch 6.0.2 without cd ? is it even possible or do we have to wait for a no cd crack 6.0.2 ??

nope you don't have to wait for a crack just follow these instructions to get it working which is exactly the same method i used for 6.0.1 which i posted some time ago
This method works as long as you have made a full image of your disc with Alcohol

1. Mount full image in Daemon v4
2. Install From Image
3. Apply 6.0.2 patch
4. Disable any optical drives via Device Manager (if using 2000 you may have to reboot after this step)
6. Play the game!

Tested succesfully numerous times works every time on XP and 2000

[eHonkey]

so our german friends, would you please clear up is this game made by Electronic Arts or Sports Interactive, just to be clear..


I just bought this DVD, and it is definitely an EA Sports product. And now I really like to know how to copy it. And hey, as I own this DVD, it's even LEGAL! ;)

[muffenboy]

I just bought this DVD, and it is definitely an EA Sports product. And now I really like to know how to copy it. And hey, as I own this DVD, it's even LEGAL! ;)

Erh....The game is NOT from EA, I should know, I have bought all there games. The publisher is SEGA btw, and Sports Interactive were resently bought by SEGA

[rabidscouser]

i have a problem

i used the no cd file for FM which didn't work, as i had lost the disc, now i have found it,,,how do i replace the icon witht the one from the disc that works, i.e. where is it is and will it work that way?

[RincewindTheWiz]

Best bet would probably be to reinstall the game. The game excutable you've overwritten is somewhere in the installation files so usually only a reinstall will bring it back. We don't allow asking for files you can find on your original cd so please don't ask for it :)

[rabidscouser]

doesn't offer reinstall only modify and uninstall, modifying and repairing doesn't work

[RincewindTheWiz]

reinstall = uninstall and then install again.

[Astrikeruk1]

my football manager cd is damaged and does not work ne more, is there ne way i can still play it, please help

[Joe Forster/STA]

Ask the publisher for a replacement. (See the forum rules!)