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I can confirm that if you wish to play this from a backup YOU CAN
Using Alcohol120 latest version an image can be made with a high DPM at 1X
This image will not work you have to burn it to a disk.
Also enable Alcohol's Burn with DPRM and DPRM Emulation.
Once you have created your backup disk it will work with your Disk Key.
And yes I don't have an IDE DVD drive only an external one.
But no need for Starfu*** ETC. :)
can you tell me more in details what to do please?
he told you everything... get DPM or dl it off GCW rip w/ alcohol settings for sf 1/2/3 use the DPM mds and full mdf burn and use in USB drive... the end.
It does work but only with the right key and external usb dvd drive.
tarzan_gk
14-04-2005, 02:54
right key? it means he don't have it
external usb dvd drive :eek:
t.foster73
14-04-2005, 03:03
Will the next Starforce update block USB drive channels? If it does, and I supsect it will, then the jouney to the dark side will be complete. :(
right key means the same cd key as your backup disc :p
I still dont get what you mean.
t.foster73
14-04-2005, 15:52
Is each key unique to ech CD? I'm sucessfully playing backups of Silent Hunter 3 and Chaos Theory thanks to Karllmuller, and if I can do it, then anyone can. I must stress I've bought both games, and made my own MDS images. I've tried the USB drive trick on 3 different PC's, all with different hardware, and both games run perfectly on all of them (As far as I can tell). I must say that none of the PC's had any internal drives at this point, so I'm not sure if using STARF***ER to disable the IDE channels would work. I shall be trying this shortly and will report back with my findings. Using the Silent Hunter 3 NODVD fix bypasses the disc check completely, and also appears to have different gameplay from the untampered version, though with the open nature of the game it's tricky to tell. If (Big IF) a Chaos Theory fix becomes available, it will be a lot easier to tell if the gameplay is the same. I suspect this is why there isn't one available yet.
Using the USB drive trick allows you to keep the original safe, yet still update the game to the latest version, which in some respects is better than a nocd/dvd crack, though I'm pretty sure that the next Starforce update will fix this loophole, and that will be the end of RELIABLE game backups. I'm not throwing accusations, but maybe some people having problems with this method don't have the original DVD's, if you know what I mean ;)
coffin filler
14-04-2005, 16:13
I must say that none of the PC's had any internal drives at this point, so I'm not sure if using STARF***ER to disable the IDE channels would work. I shall be trying this shortly and will report back with my findings. Please do.
but maybe some people having problems with this method don't have the original DVD's, if you know what I mean
Yup we know what you mean
Can anyone confirm what happens when you try to play off of a virtual drive. I know it doesn't work, but what does it do when you use d-tools or alcohol w/ rpms on. On my system its crashing but I'm not sure if that has to due with starforce or not. If not I may have found a workaround.
coffin filler
14-04-2005, 16:54
@ SCVirus. I dont have this game as of yet (wont until/if ever theres a fix) but im sure what you asked has been discused already in another SCCT thread. (Im not 100% though). I guess search is your best option until someone posts back in here but when your in the middle of something you/I/we want answers straight away. (Expecialy when trying to crack a game etc).
I have been following the threads, I've seen people say that it claims key is wrong (when it is right), that is due to rmps emulation not being present (on the drive or mds), but no one has said what happens otherwise, only that it doesn't work.
coffin filler
14-04-2005, 17:04
I have been following the threads, I've seen people say that it claims key is wrong (when it is right), that is due to rmps emulation not being present (on the drive or mds), but no one has said what happens otherwise, only that it doesn't work.
In that case we need someone else to post in this thread what happens in precise detail. Anyway what are your finding thus far ? (or you going to keep that under your hat until you have the facts).
I will post here again in a second, as I believe it was simply an error on my computer that I think I have now fixed.... If this is so I may have a very dirty and complicated workaround (software only though) within a few minutes. But every little but helps... post here your virtual drive experiances.
coffin filler
14-04-2005, 17:12
Ok look forward to reading your findings. (im in the UK and its 01:06 so im off to bed now. Sleep deprevation is starting to kick in). I will be looking tomorrow to read your findings.
I may have a very dirty and complicated workaround (software only though) Arnt they all when it comes to SF :(
t.foster73
15-04-2005, 02:12
Without RMPS emulation, the disc check never completes. It scans the disc for 5 minutes or so, then tells you that it cannot be verified (Backup of course). With RMPS enabled, the game starts straight away, as with non-backup original. Also, Alcohol and Daemon tools RMPS emulation both work fine. Today I will find if you can disable any present IDE drives, and still run the game. Currently, none of the PC's I've tested had ANY IDE optical drives. Sorry if this taking a long time, but my 3 rigs are in pieces, as I swap hardware in and out to find my right setup.
Also, mounting an image doesn't seem to work with this Starforce version. You need a disc backup, and that disc MUST be in the USB drive.
coffin filler
15-04-2005, 02:57
Without RMPS emulation, the disc check never completes. It scans the disc for 5 minutes or so, then tells you that it cannot be verified (Backup of course). With RMPS enabled, the game starts straight away, as with non-backup original. Also, Alcohol and Daemon tools RMPS emulation both work fine. Today I will find if you can disable any present IDE drives, and still run the game. Currently, none of the PC's I've tested had ANY IDE optical drives. Sorry if this taking a long time, but my 3 rigs are in pieces, as I swap hardware in and out to find my right setup.
Also, mounting an image doesn't seem to work with this Starforce version. You need a disc backup, and that disc MUST be in the USB drive.
Im glad your taking some time to look into this. (i only have one pc @ present but when i get some in to work on i will also be trying a couple things as regards to SF3). If enough of us try/test various things out we will hopefully find a stable work-around.
t.foster73
15-04-2005, 04:41
Findings Part 1
The game won't run from the USB drive if any cd/dvd drives are connected. Game installer tells you to put the dvd into another drive. However when I use starforce nightmare to disable the Secondary Master channel (where my dvd drive is) the game runs fine, but does take a little longer to check the disc (15 seconds or so as opposed to 1-3 seconds with no IDE optical drives present). It's as though it's trying to check if any IDE devices have been disabled. Now I'm going to see if it still works if the IDE optical drive is on the Primary Slave channel. Will report back soon.
p.s. Although I bought my USB housing to test this Starforce backup method, it does seem more efficient than having the DVD drive on an IDE channel. I may run all my drives like this from now on.
Pigdog Ratsnake
15-04-2005, 22:32
Without RMPS emulation, the disc check never completes. It scans the disc for 5 minutes or so, then tells you that it cannot be verified (Backup of course). With RMPS enabled, the game starts straight away, as with non-backup original. Also, Alcohol and Daemon tools RMPS emulation both work fine.
Now let me get this straight. Are you saying that you did actually get it (as in an image of Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory) to work with Daemon tools???
kokoreko
16-04-2005, 01:57
The Disc cheking seems to be ok but i need the Right CD-KEY to match with the disc....
and some played the Splinter Cell Chaos Theory from a backup disc?
t.foster73
16-04-2005, 03:22
The right key to match the disc is ON THE ORIGINAL DISC :) I'm talking about making a working backup from the original, not using Warez! Splinter Cell and Silent Hunter 3 both work fine using original image and DVD key, and with latest Alcohol and RMPS enabled. All those having problems MUST be trying to get WAREZZED versions working, which is not supported here.
If i will buy an ideusb2.0 converter it will play my game splinter cell 3??
dvdwildsau
16-04-2005, 05:45
why buy that thing, only for one game???
The starforce developers "fix" this problem in the next version of SF
the no cd will come sooner or later ;)
Mister_T
16-04-2005, 05:51
why buy that thing, only for one game???
The starforce developers "fix" this problem in the next version of SF
the no cd will come sooner or later ;)
I am your opinion for play it would not be worthwhile myself a USB drive assembly to buy. At best being waiting.
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Sorry for my bad English, i come from Turkey.
1.Is this sure? that it will exists no-dvd for every SF game after a while.
2.Usb2.0 drives are quicklier than IDE??
coffin filler
16-04-2005, 07:14
The Disc cheking seems to be ok but i need the Right CD-KEY to match with the disc....
and some played the Splinter Cell Chaos Theory from a backup disc?
Tut tut tut..Do ppl never read the forum rules? As t.foster73 pointed out to you there is no help for ppl who own a WAREZ version of a game. (its what keeps these forums up and running).
behedwin
16-04-2005, 08:47
can we have a good guide how to get the game to start?!!
write a good guide fore all who have problems!!
coffin filler
16-04-2005, 09:06
can we have a good guide how to get the game to start?!!
write a good guide fore all who have problems!!
:confused: Thats just it there isnt a simple straight forward answere as of yet. Different hardware etc means different results. Do some reserch here @ GCW (search button) read the posts and you will see what i mean.
behedwin
16-04-2005, 09:39
yes i have read many ways but i do not understand them all!
i am asking fore a guide that is simple that a amature can use!
a many guidse fore diffrent hardware!
t.foster73
16-04-2005, 10:44
What you need
1.USB Adaptor housing costing £20 to £50
2.Starforce Nightmare software (Links on this site)
3.Alcohol 120 software latest version (1.9.5.2802). A trial version can be found at http://www.alcohol-software.com/
Firstly, you need to make a backup of the original disc. To do this, start Alcohol 120 and select FILE/OPTIONS/EMULATION, and then check the RMPS box. Now select FILE/OPTIONS/READING, and check the DPM measuring precision to HIGH. Now go to IMAGE MAKING WIZARD, select the Starforce 1/2/3 profile, and ensure the read speed is 1*. Next you simply select the destination for the MDF and MDS Image files. Please note that if the file size exceeds 4gb, then your disks MUST be formatted with NTFS, as FAT32 has a single 4gb limit on files. Wait for the disc to be scanned and the files created, and then you are ready to burn your image. Note that with the latest Starforce, you can't mount this image, you must burn it to a DVD. Select the IMAGE BURNING WIZARD, and burn to disc, ensuring theat the RMPS box is checked.
Now we need to play from this backup. The latest Starforce checks for any IDE drives, and INSISTS that the DVD must be in this drive. We must therefore ensure it can't see any IDE channels, either by unplugging them, or by using the much easier STARFORCE NIGHTMARE, which allows you to disable the IDE channel that the optical drive is using. Simply start the program and disable the channel the optical drive is using. Next, ensure that the USB drive is installed with appropriate drivers if required (XP usually self-configures USB devices). Now in Alcohol or Daemon tools (doesn't matter which), select 'ENABLE RMPS EMULATION', and insert your backup into the USB drive and run the game.
If the game doesn't run, then it's most likely that you MDS file has not been created correctly, so you must use one somebody else has made (available here and on other sites).
behedwin
16-04-2005, 11:19
may i ask a thing!
why buy this usb thing just to crack a game!
the game cost 30-50 and the usb thing cost 30-50
crack fore me means that it should be free!
i have the hole game and have installed it but i cant start it
pay 30-50 just to get it to start feels ....
coffin filler
16-04-2005, 11:19
That was very Kind mr t.foster73 and also NoOb proof. As mentioned in another post this thread should be stickied for a while to stop the same Qs being asked repetadly.
So a USB DVD drive will allow you to play your backed up game, but does anyone know if an IDE DVD drive with a Serial ATA adapter work?
coffin filler
16-04-2005, 11:23
may i ask a thing!
why buy this usb thing just to crack a game!
the game cost 30-50 and the usb thing cost 30-50
crack fore me means that it should be free!
i have the hole game and have installed it but i cant start it
pay 30-50 just to get it to start feels ....
And there you have it. Also when you think the ST3 dev's will more than likely disable this method in an update it bears the question. Do you want to be able to play all current SF3 games on your backed up disk ? Do you have an original shop bought version of SCCT to do what t.foster73 suggested ?. You can not do the above with a coppied game/Downloaded version/warez etc etc. You have to have an original bona fida shop retail version. Do you have one of them?.
So a USB DVD drive will allow you to play your backed up game, but does anyone know if an IDE DVD drive with a Serial ATA adapter work?
Works great on SATA drives, I backup my games then mount the image (after changing device names in Daemon) set RPMS on, close daemon from taskbar keeping emulation on. The image was on the SATA anyways, used Starforce Nightmare to disable 2nd channel (IDE DVD-rw/Rom), disabled node and disabled ATA.
Ran the game without a problem from the image :)
t.foster73
16-04-2005, 12:17
I'm pretty sure the next Starforce update will block SATA/RAID and USB tricks. I don't advise anyone to buy a USB housing just to play a handful of games. In my case, I managed to get one for £15 from my local computer shop, but these things normally retail for a lot more. This Starforce proliferation could seriously finish me off with PC games for good. I can understand (And to a certain degree, agree with) the publishers making backups very hard to create, but if I can't make a backup, using whatever workaround, then I don't buy the game, it's as simple as that. Starforce has really made my hobby of Gaming into a miserable pastime the last few months. It's just becoming ridiculous the steps you have to go to to keep you original in the CD cabinet, and frankly, I've nearly had enough of it. Perhaps with Memory becoming so cheap we may see games being produced on cartridges, but that's probably just wishful thinking.
I can't even say that Piracy is to blame, because without Pirates we wouldn't have NOCD fixes. Piracy and game sales have always been uncomfortable bedfellows, with kids pooling their money to buy a game because they can share it etc. Far from saving the PC gaming industry, I seriously think Starforce could finish it off for good. Console games are a little different because they tend to run much better, being made for cloned hardware. A friend of mine who owns a local games shop tells me that sales of Starforce protected games are down, when it is the opposite you would expect (or is it the developers that expect?). I'm not giving up just yet, but I suspect the end is near for my love of PC gaming.
I don't this is the end of being able to backup software.
Not every publisher can effort to buy starforce protection cuz it's the most expencive one and after a while every protection gets cracked. So lets this happens as fast as possible :D
I bought this kinda adapter for just 10 € at ebay.
And its very functional. Back-Up a crashed Windows/Data Hardisk?
No more unplugging your own hds or open your system to add the crashed device to your system. (Okay, you may use PE-Software instead, but...)
Just if you need to add one more harddisk to your system for your own, you don´t need a raid-controller, a.s.o.
There are more reasons to buy such thingy than only for warez-users.
As I pointet out in another thread, I just confirmed Karlmuellers solution - using my own game to create the image of the dvd. (So please don´t blame me - I am no warez-kiddie for sure ;-D)
@SCVirus - I smell a little taste of warez-using in your posts...
Signed
Hagar
Do you get an "please insert disc to another drive" error if you mount the SCCT image?
Im askin cuz I get another error. It just tells me that the key is probably correct but not for this version.
BUT I use european DVD and key of SCCT. Maybe this could be a step closer to the goal. Can anyone post me the us key please.
thx
It all started so well too, you cant ask for keys and nobody will give you them.
Even if your intentions are genuine, it is against rules sorry buddy.
The reason i asked about the IDE to SATA is because I have an adapter made by Gigabyte that came with a motherboard I used in a system build for someone. They obviously didn't need it, so I got it for Free-ninty-free. Thanks for the reply!
It all started so well too, you cant ask for keys and nobody will give you them.
Even if your intentions are genuine, it is against rules sorry buddy.
So let me ask another key question. Is there any difference between the eu and the us key? I know starforce has a unique key that means everyone has the same one. I already searched the web but only found the key I already own or invalid ones. So would you even write the 1st letter/number of the us key. That way I'll be able to find out if I already found the right one and that means that it is invalid for me so there is no chance at all. :(
Finally for today a last question? As you know the backup can be played as DVD from USB device and as image from SATA. Did anyone try to mount the image from an external HDD? Should work too, right? :cool:
coffin filler
16-04-2005, 14:25
So let me ask another key question. Is there any difference between the eu and the us key? I know starforce has a unique key that means everyone has the same one. I already searched the web but only found the key I already own or invalid ones. So would you even write the 1st letter/number of the us key. That way I'll be able to find out if I already found the right one and that means that it is invalid for me so there is no chance at all. :(
A little advice. If you/anyone owns a "naughty" version of a game (do not tell us). No help will be given with warez etc. Also even if you/anyone dose own an original bona fida shop bought and paid for game we still can not give any info regarding cd-keys etc. (instant ban). GCW has been here a long time (ive been a member a long time) and its these rules that keep GCW up and running. If you/anyone own a warez version of a game dont share that info here. (if you/anyone intends on staying here a while and using the forums then i advise you to look over the rules. You wouldnt belive how many ppl are banned within one to two days of registering). Your call
t.foster73
16-04-2005, 15:36
Mounting on an external Hard Drive. hey, nice idea, I'll try that Sunday morning. I'm off to bed now.
Pigdog Ratsnake
16-04-2005, 17:22
Does Splinter Cell work from networked drives?
if it does work from an external HDD please tell me i have a firewire drive :)
Hm... Buddies... So please let me know how you mount an image stored on an external/sata drive? Lemme guess with some kinda virtual cd/dvd tool. But there is no difference then between internal/external device. It doesn´t matter where the image is stored.
A little advice. If you/anyone owns a "naughty" version of a game (do not tell us). No help will be given with warez etc. Also even if you/anyone dose own an original bona fida shop bought and paid for game we still can not give any info regarding cd-keys etc. (instant ban). GCW has been here a long time (ive been a member a long time) and its these rules that keep GCW up and running. If you/anyone own a warez version of a game dont share that info here. (if you/anyone intends on staying here a while and using the forums then i advise you to look over the rules. You wouldnt belive how many ppl are banned within one to two days of registering). Your call
Sorry man that's not what I want but I think you didn't understand me. It's not that I want to have a key cuz I don't have one. It's because SCCT that I btw legally own gives me a non typical error. So if the us key is another one as the eu key there might be a possibility to run this game from image on IDE drives. If there is no difference, the error I get is just another way for SF to tell me that it "knows" it' a copy.
Please do NOT answer this. I know the rulez now. I just wanted you to know. :)
It doesnt matter and you have gotten away with it for a bit now, you CAN NOT request any serials for any purpose be it bad or good.
coffin filler
17-04-2005, 09:55
It doesnt matter and you have gotten away with it for a bit now, you CAN NOT request any serials for any purpose be it bad or good.
Its that simple. So no need to continue with the key topic @ all. And i agree with DABhand's you have gotten away with it for a bit now
Yep he has and has also been quiet fortunate. Obviously no one has reported any of the posts.
Pigdog Ratsnake
17-04-2005, 17:11
Does Splinter Cell work from networked drives?
No one can answer this!? Ok, maybe I'll make it more clear.
If my DVD drive is on a laptop networked to my PC, will Starforce allow me to use this drive, or will it insist that the drive be local to the PC?
I dont think so, it has to be local.
Why can't people just play with their original disks till a crack comes out.
If it doesn't work from the original disks .. then.. umm .. DO NOT POST HERE!
(maybe in general gaming)
This thread doesn't need to be stickied. It needs to be closed!
No one can answer this!? Ok, maybe I'll make it more clear.
If my DVD drive is on a laptop networked to my PC, will Starforce allow me to use this drive, or will it insist that the drive be local to the PC?
Playing from a network device does NOT work cuz in a network even a dvd device for your PC is only a directory but no device. So the game doesn't find any DVD and asks you to put one in a drive. :)
I know there are some brilliant minds watching this post and they are just dying to answer some newbie questions. First, I backed up my original using alcohol 120, then I went to burn it, but the rmps box was grayed out... did I do something wrong there? And should I use DVD+R or DVD-R media? And why is there a "no-cd fix" on GCW if that method does not work? Thanks! :)
I posted a new method to run a backup of SCCT without usb drive here :
http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=69711&page=2
anyone can try it ?
How long must you wait until the game started?
CTYScorpion
19-04-2005, 09:13
I just wanted to confirm that the USB-Drive method works.
I used Alcohol 120% 1.9.5 Build 2802 for reading out the RMPS information and burning the backup DVD+R.
I just have the USB drive installed; no other drives so I can't confirm if Starforce Nightmare is working.
Can I make a small suggestion for all those saying they have got a burn to work etc? As well as listing the program used can you say what type of burner you have used. That way we can work out which are the better burners to use. Thanks ;)
CTYScorpion
19-04-2005, 09:45
Well, thats a good idea.
I used the Toshiba Samsung TS-H552U for reading out the original, and I also use it for playing with the backup, because my cheap Artec DVD doesn't read the burnt DVD :(
Well, thats a good idea.
I used the Toshiba Samsung TS-H552U for reading out the original, and I also use it for playing with the backup, because my cheap Artec DVD doesn't read the burnt DVD :(
And that works? I use the Samsung TS-H552B and it doesn't work. :mad:
CTYScorpion
19-04-2005, 13:36
AFAIK the H552U is the successor of the H552B, why shouldn't it work when they're nearly the same?
Are you sure you'd read out the RMPS correctly? Maybe you should use the mds file from GCW...
I used it from copybase.ch
IT IS CORRECT!
CTYScorpion
19-04-2005, 14:00
Maybe you should tell us exactly what your problem is. Burning the disc with RMPS? Getting the emulation to work?
I just can't imagine that this is due to the drive...
CTYScorpion
20-04-2005, 08:42
LoedD, maybe you should update your drive firmware, there has been a new out recently.
http://www.samsungoms.com/
So many of u got the problem that they're receiving a key error when runnin the game from DVD+/-R.
This might be cuz SF is comparing the key to the dpm. If their not exactly the same the game won't run. Maybe some drives can fake it and let SF believe it is a scatch on the disk so SF ignores that. And the all known bug is that SF "forgets" to compare key and dpm on USB devices.
Maybe we just need a hyper perfect correct readind super DVD device to read the REAL dpm that workz for everyone. The one of you with the newest drive should try. :D
So many of u got the problem that they're receiving a key error when runnin the game from DVD+/-R.
This might be cuz SF is comparing the key to the dpm. If their not exactly the same the game won't run. Maybe some drives can fake it and let SF believe it is a scatch on the disk so SF ignores that. And the all known bug is that SF "forgets" to compare key and dpm on USB devices.
Maybe we just need a hyper perfect correct readind super DVD device to read the REAL dpm that workz for everyone. The one of you with the newest drive should try. :D
It does not forget to compare the activation key and DPM on the dvd. I have both EMEA and US backup copies and they will only run in an USB 2.0 dvd drive WITH their correct regional activation keys.
pizzahut key will work with a US dpm, you just have to truncate the last number off the key.
I smell warez..
Why on earth would you have both European and North American rls's?
And why would you want to use a known warez key?
Ok I used an LG gsa-4160b to burn the image on a DVD-R and followed all the same procedures pc84 posted and I still received the CD key error message.
Guess for time being need to wait until SF is cracked :(
bigonexeon
21-04-2005, 19:25
starforce affects the setup.exe on the cd/dvd what i cant figure out is the copyright act article 168 is that the owner of the original can MAKE 1 backup of her or his ORIGINAL disk now where has our rights gone to make 1 backup with starforce later builds its become almost impossible as the protection isnt just affecting the exe so making a fixed exe isnt repairing the issue at hand and the guy asking about the cd key go take your warez garbage and throw it in the bin where it belongs as NO cd has the same cd serial number not the online serial or the number on the disk you want support try the garbage file share sites you got it from sooner there gone the better sorry for any insults but myself and others make fixed exes for a reason to make the 1 copy of the original thankyou for your time
eskimo103
21-04-2005, 20:33
starforce affects the setup.exe on the cd/dvd what i cant figure out is the copyright act article 168 is that the owner of the original can MAKE 1 backup of her or his ORIGINAL disk now where has our rights gone to make 1 backup with starforce later builds its become almost impossible as the protection isnt just affecting the exe so making a fixed exe isnt repairing the issue at hand and the guy asking about the cd key go take your warez garbage and throw it in the bin where it belongs as NO cd has the same cd serial number not the online serial or the number on the disk you want support try the garbage file share sites you got it from sooner there gone the better sorry for any insults but myself and others make fixed exes for a reason to make the 1 copy of the original thankyou for your time
I think you misunderstand the reason for the law that allows people to make one copy. It doesnt condone this semi-piracy, and doesnt mean that you legally MUST be able to make one back up. That is not your right. You DO have the right to back up the CD's if you are able to. This means that copy protection can go as hard as it wants.
To all the people that make the joke of calling this a legitimate forum for backing up, and then abuse others for mentioning potential warez - What a joke! I bet 90% of the users here are software pirates and you ALL know that. Stop taking the high moral ground.
maul_slayer
21-04-2005, 21:03
This post was taken from -
http://www.mgforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37722&page=1&pp=25
Hope it helps you guys out :). Please tell me if this method works. I can't try it out as i don't have a DVD Burner, i'm pov :rolleyes: .
There is a way to play to the game with a backup copy without use an external drive or disable ide devices !
This method was confirmed by some people :
"1: Created a Image with Alcohol 120% (lastest version). I read the RMPS at the lowest settings (Precision High), same for the data. Read at the lowest settings to prevent errors.
2: Now this is the wierd part. Burn the image at the lowest settings and DO NOT burn the RMPS data to the disk. I burned it to DVDR.
It took along time to get past the protection screen(even froze my pc for a few seconds) but it did load. I tested it with 1.0 and 1.01, both load."
To be sure to have a corect mds file,you can download this file :
http://copybase.ch/Cb/PHPV2/Databas...0Chaos%20Theory
nemesis.x
21-04-2005, 21:32
I think you misunderstand the reason for the law that allows people to make one copy. It doesnt condone this semi-piracy, and doesnt mean that you legally MUST be able to make one back up. That is not your right. You DO have the right to back up the CD's if you are able to. This means that copy protection can go as hard as it wants.
To all the people that make the joke of calling this a legitimate forum for backing up, and then abuse others for mentioning potential warez - What a joke! I bet 90% of the users here are software pirates and you ALL know that. Stop taking the high moral ground.
so by your logic, there is 90% or 9/10 chance that you are a software pirate.....
DarkLeftos
22-04-2005, 05:34
And now people are just going to flame each other... Duh...
Anyway, maul_slayer, this method was posted 2 or 3 pages before you, that's what we're all trying.
Joe Forster/STA
22-04-2005, 07:00
@eskimo103: On this forum, no one cares about whether you're playing originals, backups or warez copies. If someone is a pirate and is trying to use this forum then it's not the forum's fault but that of the pirate; shall I take away all your knives, knowing that you may potentially kill someone with them? Checking then originality of games is up to the game publisher, manufacturer, police etc. It's just that you don't ask for help if you have a warezed game! Whoever doesn't follow this rule will get banned; it's this simple!
@bigonexeon: Please, use capital letters and punctuations correctly in your posts. It is interesting what you're saying but reading it makes my eyes hurt...! Thanks!
Joe
maul_slayer
22-04-2005, 09:51
ah ok, my bad lol.
Here is a new method (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=69811&highlight=Splinter+Cell) u should try.
radiskull
23-04-2005, 07:15
I made the image using Alcohol and burnt the dvd with the same rpms settings etc. as everyone has said b4. I burnt it onto a Ricoh dvd+rw disc and mounted the disc in a LG-4081 dvd-ram drive in a USB 1.0 case. I then used starforce nightmare and disabled ATA as I only have serial ATA hard drives and the game runs fine.
Has anybody posted about the Starforce-made nocd? 1450-sp-patch If so, then sorry for not finding that post...
Requires that you contact Starforce support with original serial and a good reason for wanting to use the nocd in order to get the activation code, but it is a nocd nonetheless.
Do u mean that if I give trustable reason 2 Ubisoft, I will recieve a noCD for SCCT. Sounds like a joke. :confused:
CTYScorpion
24-04-2005, 03:37
This was confirmed by some people. You contact Stafroce, send them your error report and serial, and they will generate you an unique hardware-bound key for playing SCCT without DVD.
Works just like the WinXP activation.
ni9ht_5ta1k3r
24-04-2005, 03:39
This was confirmed by some people. You contact Stafroce, send them your error report and serial, and they will generate you an unique hardware-bound key for playing SCCT without DVD.
Works just like the WinXP activation.
I think they're cracking down on this because some people who are getting the activation codes didn't buy the game legitimately.
This was confirmed by some people. You contact Stafroce, send them your error report and serial, and they will generate you an unique hardware-bound key for playing SCCT without DVD.
Works just like the WinXP activation.
I think that can't be cuz how would they know my hardware. I may send them my problem that my drive can't find the DVD and my key. But we all got the same key, so everyone could send the same ****. How do they want to create a hardware bound key.
CTYScorpion
24-04-2005, 03:52
You have to send them your hardware info, too.
You start SCCT without inserting the DVD, and then click on 'information'. Starforce then tells you that hardware information is being collected. After this, you can view + save an error report, which you then have to send to Starforce.
I don't know how hardware bound the code actually is...
When you startup scct with starforce nocd it provides a "hardware code." The odd thing is, the hardware code is different every time you start scct. You can activate it manually by entering the matching activation code (not the cd key, this is the code you get from starforce support). So, the activation code just has to match the random "hardware code" provided at startup of the game. After this, the game is activated with no cd needed.
boinaverde
24-04-2005, 05:14
hi all.
CTYScorpion, can you please tell me what is the email of starforce to send them my hardware information?
And, robbdn, could you tell me how to get the code you get from starforce support?
Thx.
cabernet
24-04-2005, 05:49
can anyone make a keygen for that starforce activation? It has a manual selection option. It gives you a code and well starforce/unbisoft should give you the correct combiation for that code. So can any of you freaks and geeks make keygens
BlueMan0025
24-04-2005, 08:13
Hey guys, i dunno if someone gets this idea beside me: using the demo SCCT.exe, copy it into the full_game_dir, and use it to run the full game without CD (and without starforce !).
With just the exe by itself it's not working, but I have tryed messing with .dll and /data folder and now the exe accepts to start and reads a lot of files, but crash at the end ... Maybe that some of you can try also.. :cool:
A low tech solution could also rename files in the demo/data folder and replace them with some of the fullgame levels (not convenient as you can play only 1 level before having to rename/recopy files again) :( .
Let me (us) know !
Silly idea, for the simple fact the demo.exe has been coded to only allow so much play.
can anyone make a keygen for that starforce activation? It has a manual selection option. It gives you a code and well starforce/unbisoft should give you the correct combiation for that code. So can any of you freaks and geeks make keygens
You obviously been standing on your head too much down under, that you failed to read the rules.
BlueMan0025
24-04-2005, 14:09
Silly idea, for the simple fact the demo.exe has been coded to only allow so much play.
Consider that a lot of the scripting is not done in the .exe, but in the .ini, .dem, .u, etc ... and you 'll find the idea not so silly.
Usually demo are far from being as much protected as the full game; coders consider that as you only have 1 level of the game w/ the demo, you won't go much further, so they don't need to protect it . That's why the demo is not shipped with starforce inside.
Of course, there is almost no chance that the demo.exe contains the code for the multiplayer and other fancy options, but the demo allows the solo play, so i don't see why it would not work if you provide it the missing levels...
Well, at least, it's an idea... I'll continue to see what i can do with the help of filemon and regmon, unless you got a better idea... :confused:
Level details etc may be indeed in other files, but the demo does not read those files.
If it did wouldnt you think they would not release a demo for people to abuse it?
CTYScorpion
24-04-2005, 14:34
Why would someone play one level, then exit the game, rename all the files, and then play another level?
It's more fun then to not play scct, but another game ;)
This is no new idea. the developers will have thought about this possibility, too, and will have made it impossible :rolleyes:
BlueMan0025
24-04-2005, 15:23
Level details etc may be indeed in other files, but the demo does not read those files.
If it did wouldnt you think they would not release a demo for people to abuse it?
So why am i able to find this inside one of the .ini ? :eek:
[MAPS]
m_szMissionSP[0]="01_Lighthouse"
m_szMissionSP[1]="02_Cargoship"
m_szMissionSP[2]="03_Bank"
m_szMissionSP[3]="04_Penthouse"
m_szMissionSP[4]="05_Displace01"
m_szMissionSP[5]="06_Hokkaido"
m_szMissionSP[6]="07_Battery"
m_szMissionSP[7]="08_SeoulOne"
m_szMissionSP[8]="09_SeoulTwo"
m_szMissionSP[9]="10_BathHouse"
m_szMissionSP[10]="11_KokuboSosho"
m_szMissionMP[0]="00_Training_COOP"
m_szMissionMP[1]="01_Panama"
m_szMissionMP[2]="02_seoulthree"
m_szMissionMP[3]="03_ChemBunker"
m_szMissionMP[4]="04_GCS"
Well it sems that you're not interested by this method, but more interested to wait until someone else release a nocd, so i will do my work on my own... will let u know if i find something tough.
Jeesus trust me, if demo exe's could be used in your way of thinking the publishers/developers wouldnt release them.
The game exe will read the ini file properly, but a demo exe wont. You can try all you want but you will fail.
coffin filler
24-04-2005, 16:06
So why am i able to find this inside one of the .ini ? :eek:
[MAPS]
m_szMissionSP[0]="01_Lighthouse"
m_szMissionSP[1]="02_Cargoship"
m_szMissionSP[2]="03_Bank"
m_szMissionSP[3]="04_Penthouse"
m_szMissionSP[4]="05_Displace01"
m_szMissionSP[5]="06_Hokkaido"
m_szMissionSP[6]="07_Battery"
m_szMissionSP[7]="08_SeoulOne"
m_szMissionSP[8]="09_SeoulTwo"
m_szMissionSP[9]="10_BathHouse"
m_szMissionSP[10]="11_KokuboSosho"
m_szMissionMP[0]="00_Training_COOP"
m_szMissionMP[1]="01_Panama"
m_szMissionMP[2]="02_seoulthree"
m_szMissionMP[3]="03_ChemBunker"
m_szMissionMP[4]="04_GCS"
Well it sems that you're not interested by this method, but more interested to wait until someone else release a nocd, so i will do my work on my own... will let u know if i find something tough.
If there was any possability that the demo's exe was of any use for the full game we would be playing SCCT without having to insert original disk. dont know if its escaped your attention but ppl in the know (crackers like "reloaded,Devience etc etc) are unable to sort scct's protection out. Meaning the exe of the demo = no good because if it were all other games that have had demo's out would be cracked with the help of the demo's exe (and what about games that have been cracked without a demo having ever been released ? Do you think the Dev's and Publishers would even concider releasing demos if your idea was pratical ? I think not. (and belive me the groups out there do not rip the protection outa exe's,dll's etc for full games due to getting hold of the exe from a demo). Just because the ini contains the above script that dosent mean anything of value as far as a crack goes. I do not confess to know lots about the process involved when creating a nocd,fixed exe etc but i do have enough of an understanding to know the demo's exe is useless. No offence intended BlueMan0025 (everything comes from an idea originaly,just some ideas can not be turned into practicality). :eek:
meganassi
28-04-2005, 12:55
i don't really think, that any cracker had tried to patch the demo-exe. maybe it works, maybe you can add deleted options back to the exe. but i dont think, this is easier than cracking it. but maybe easier than cracking starforce3, especially THIS SF3. maybe some REAL GOOD coder can try it.... why not?
Why would you, instead of playing the game with your original CDs and having fun, go through the hassle of trying to learn how to make a crack?
Play the game.. have fun.. it's what it's all about..
BlueMan0025
28-04-2005, 16:31
i don't really think, that any cracker had tried to patch the demo-exe. maybe it works, maybe you can add deleted options back to the exe.
Be realistic, it will never be possible to add the deleted options, and the demo doesn't need to be cracked (it' not protected !), but tweaked.
The only thing that you can hope, is to use the existing demo options (start a new game, load/save, options) on all game levels instead of just the 1st. You will -never- have the missed functions (like multiplayer).
I've to say that i've get some success with this method, playing with the different patchs and/or exe+dll. A lot of mixing, but the result is there. Unfortunately, it seems that the game is not very stable, but it's probably coming from the fact that the demo itself was buggy and not completly finished when released.
Note that my objective was not to crack SF3, but to circumvent it, and it's working. But, just to give you another idea, keep in mind that SF3 is encrypting the original game, and decrypt it in RAM when running. If you consider that many of the source code of the demo should be identical to the decrypted full-game, this could help some to find the decryption sequence. (the crypto key is easier to find if you have both the encrypted and desencrypted object in front of you). I'm not at all playning in this league, but at least this shows to the sceptical that a demo exe is still usable when trying to crack the original.
Tchao :cool:
Blue
yare yare
man this is a devil, i havent been here a while and now this bitch crops up! I still havent managed it yet....
Starforce is evil!
Mister_T
29-04-2005, 12:33
For Silent Hunter III give a crack, why not for Splinter Cell 3 ????
dvdwildsau
29-04-2005, 12:43
my god
30 days and this game is still uncracked :rolleyes:
bertrand
29-04-2005, 12:53
:D ¡¡¡Happy 30 days uncraked!!! :p
coffin filler
29-04-2005, 16:57
my god
30 days and this game is still uncracked :rolleyes:
be prepared for a much longer wait than 30 days. Cant you see where this SF3 is going to take us ?? Ill tell ya shall i ? Its gonna take us to hell...Hell i say hell :eek:
Good one Coffin Filler,
Maybe that is where all the game hackers end up and they will find the solution to Starforce :)
Maybe u should try this (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?t=69918&page=2&pp=15&highlight=Splinter+Cell) 2 bypass Starforce.
Beast1970
30-04-2005, 11:21
Hello!
I've been looking for no cd fix/patch and I came here to find solution for SCCT
I wont to know are they going to realase no cd fix for scct and could someone tell me when(for couple weeks,monts or...what u think)
Plz give me a hope :o
I am new here and plz dont get angry on if I aksed something stupid
coffin filler
30-04-2005, 13:48
Hello!
I've been looking for no cd fix/patch and I came here to find solution for SCCT
I wont to know are they going to realase no cd fix for scct and could someone tell me when(for couple weeks,monts or...what u think)
Plz give me a hope :o
I am new here and plz dont get angry on if I aksed something stupid
If you read the whole of this thread (start to finish) you will understand that no-one knows when,where or even if a crack will be done for SCCT (SF3 protected game). People will tell you soon, others will tell you long time to wait..I will tell you "I dont know" and anyone who tells you different is either chatting sh*te or is actualy a cracker them selfs and are near compleation :rolleyes:
I downloaded them and it looks really promising
(It's the Online version patch posted some time ago that
let's you activate the game via an activation code you could request from the starforce team as well as a keygen.exe and an info from PRIVACY)
It's on various torrentspreading sites as well, but unfortunately
nobody seems to know the appropriate password.
Perhaps one of you knows where to find the original file -without- password
or could crack the password somehow.
(It's the Online version patch posted some time ago that
let's you activate the game via an activation code you could request from the starforce team as well as a keygen.exe and an info from PRIVACY)
It's on various torrentspreading sites as well, but unfortunately
nobody seems to know the appropriate password.
Perhaps one of you knows where to find the original file -without- password
or could crack the password somehow.
Really hope this is not the Keygen that is also a Dialer program. It has caused me many headaches trying to remove it. If it is posted on most of the Torrent sites the chances are it is. North America people be very carefull since it is a German Dialer program.
Plzzz! No Keygen-Discussion here...
Dammit! My "Ban-Button" is out of order ;-D
Well... Lemme say there will be a crack in around... hm... 3 years?
Hope?
Haha!
I´m sorry, don´t wann piss some1 off, but this "when, why, where"-questions are only thread-bumpers....
Let´s say it with the duke: "When it´s done!"
!HaGaR!
I agree. Let it go already.
Stop posting until a CRACK comes out.
a CRACK = a no CD or a fixed exe..
we can make our own mini-images so stop talking about those too.
I am unsubscribing to this thread so don't expect a reply from me.
whoever has a problem playing Splinter Cell just f-u-c-k-i-n-g use your original and don't blame anyone for not makeing a crack.use your originalz or make your own crack
Enough of this!! The next person to open there mouth about a keygen will recieve a perm ban. When a crack comes out you guys will be the first to know, until then play the original. Thread closed!
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