View Full Version : modchip, softmod, but what about my idea
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 05:47
2 years ago i had an ingenius idea which was to get an original.
lets say pikmin gc disc. (original)
now my idea starts with putting this down on a precision cut machine and cut a ring in from the centre leaving the centre with barcode intact.
then from a burnt dvd-r (mini 1.5gb) with lets say mario sunshine (backup) precision cut that so that you can snap it into your original pikmin disc so your left with original pikmin barcode to trick system into thinking its original and loading the burnt data.
what are your thoughts? anyone care to put this to the test and get back with results.
cheers
Aussiebloke
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 06:14
LOL. Lemme get my precision cutting machine out of my closet and test it for you.
As a matter of fact why not everyone pull out their precision cutting machines out and try.
Tyler!
LOL. Lemme get my precision cutting machine out of my closet and test it for you.
As a matter of fact why not everyone pull out their precision cutting machines out and try.
Tyler!
i would put i'm not allowed to use a precision cutting machine for 10 years as part of a plea agreement
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 06:26
mate if i said everyone get a hand saw out or a electric jigsaw it makes this concept useless as the point im trying to make is that the burnt centre ring needs to snap into place "perfectly" wthout gaps, thus like the disc has never been cut.
precision just means find a means to make it pricision. i.e a disc holder with drill bit that always lands perfectly in centre ot disc to make perfect cut.
get it now. so close ya cupboard and use ya brain.
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 06:29
It wont work guy. Use your brain. Honestly, it wouldnt have suprised me much if you would have suggested duct tape to hold it together either.
Tyler!
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 06:30
and even if someone did have access to a pricision cutter and this concept turned out to work.
then i dont know about you, but i sure as hell would pay a precision cutter to cut alot of my mini dvd-r discs out so i dont need to buy some lame modchip "viper" that still needs loaders, network, pso, etc to me thats not a modchip, as other consoles modchips allow direct booting. non of this un-necesary extra tools b'sh+.
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 06:31
Congratulations.
Tyler!
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 06:33
point me to a forum where this has been tested or even mentioned?
an no duct tape would be useless :P
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 06:34
I dont point to other forums.
Tyler!
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 06:39
well if this forum is full of talent (excluding yourself), why point to another forum when if ya got loads of explored ideas/discussion on modchip for gamecube then you should have no trouble finding a thread in these forums, what do you say?
hows about that link mate before you go and tell me it dont work.
dont know where your brain is. but when i say snap a disc into a disc. its bloody tight. not flimsy and fall out while spinning.
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 06:42
Before calling your idea "ingenius" why not point to me a forum that has tried it out with success? lol
Tyler!
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 06:45
hmmmm because no one else has mentioned my concept in the 2-3 years ive been reading about gamecube on 20 or so forums.
it only hit me the other day as i was playing mario about idea i had about the barcode on the disc and perhaps a lock in centre disc with burnt data that i decided to jump on your lovely forum and post.
thought it cant do no harm. if someone wants to test it by all means go ahead. if it works. then hurray to the scene i suppose. their prayers have been answered.
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 06:47
Ingenius. LMAO
Sorry guy, I really hope your idea works, if all else fails remember there is duct tape.
Tyler!
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 06:54
hey would you have laughed when the psx got released and people starting throwing ideas around about loading a spring in under the lid to trick the system into thinking the lid is still down??
as funny as that sounds "a spring used on a console. the weirdest of ideas are usually the ones people think of out of the blue. you can LMAO all ya want.
ive seen this in so many forums. i.e symbian mobiles for example. someone pitched an idea about he'll program a snes emulator running on symbian phones and everyone called him a lying sack off sh!+ that a snes emu can never run on a phone. low and behold a few weeks later a SNES emulator was released and works on alot of Series60 and UI phones. slow, but works.
so why would you laugh at something that might fill gap in the gc scene if this idea of mine has not been explored before. hmmmmmmm
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 07:00
hey would you have laughed when the psx got released and people starting throwing ideas around about loading a spring in under the lid to trick the system into thinking the lid is still down??
No thats actually ingenius.
Reasons why aussiebloke's idea wont work:
1. To get the 2 discs to fit into each other would require quite a tight fit as stated by aussiebloke. This will result in disc warpage and possible damage to your laser.
2. Now anyone with any real common sense would say put interlocking teeth on the discs so they act as cogs. But this may result in damage to data on the burned disc.
3. Lastly, who the hell wants to damage an original disc just to get a backup to work?
Tyler!
aussiebloke
28-02-2005, 07:11
your either a yank or a stuborn canadian. your all the same.
instead of being easy going like us australians you should know that alot of old games are bloody cheap to buy. second hand, classifieds, etc
or if you know what your talking about, you'd have remembered that the ps2 scene in the early stages told people to use demo discs from magazines which are FREE with ya magazine to use as cheap alternate boot disc.
bloody president bush, he's the reason why your country thinks they are more superior to the rest of the world. lol.
in response to your 3 staggered statement
1. To get the 2 discs to fit into each other would require quite a tight fit as stated by aussiebloke. This will result in disc warpage and possible damage to your laser.
A. come off it. half the rental gamecube games i hire from blockbuster are warped from people having trouble taking the disc out from centre of dvd case. so warping is not an issue. discs are versitile for this reason. unless ya disc has been placed in sun and is greatly warped then what your saying would make sence.
2. Now anyone with any real common sense would say put interlocking teeth on the discs so they act as cogs. But this may result in damage to data on the burned disc.
A. look at the barcode on an original. teeth are not required to make a cog effect locking system, as this would not only be stupid as teeth on cogs snap, and for the average home user, who wants to be cutting 2 x cog pattern when my simple idea of 2 rings is much more simpler.
3. Lastly, who the hell wants to damage an original disc just to get a backup to work?
A. already answered up top.
good news and bad news
good:
i tried it
bad:
didn't work
back to jail i'll be going
TylerDurden
28-02-2005, 09:07
Ingenius indeed. Now youve not only insulted 2 countries but embarassed your own with your remarks.
Bye bye for 2 weeks. ;)
Tyler!
groovster
02-03-2005, 22:28
tyler, i think your missing the point of aussie's question...would the dumb ol' gamecube be able to discern the difference of a alien barcode fitted into any old generic gamecube disc (whether it be original media or backup). It's obvious there are machinist tools out there, that once, when the barcode section of a disc is bored out (probably a game like luigi's mansion), you simply compensate for the 'bite' of the bit. When all is said and done, you have a snug fit, and then simply use a polyer cement of sorts. Of course this all means nothing if a barcode is married to its game.
TylerDurden
03-03-2005, 05:46
Give it a shot then. Im not gonna ruin any games like that myself. His ban stays, though because of his insults.
Tyler!
seaneyb2003
10-03-2005, 08:50
hey,
thats some bad ass attitude he has there! lmao i wouldnt waste my money on that scheme but give it a go.
Sorry but i'm with tyler....it's a stupid idea
The concept is nothing new, swap magic discs are simply ps2 demo discs which have been resurfaced with the swap magic code. Hence the ps2 thinks it's a original and boots.
The whole process of doing that is highly expensive and needs a printing factory in order to do so.
The compression rate on gamecube discs is so great that there simply isnt ANY margin for error.
bloody president bush, he's the reason why your country thinks they are more superior to the rest of the world. lol.
ROTFLMAO :D :D . Idiot :rolleyes: .
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