Flat Out Protection

[t.foster73]

Has anyone bought this (Released in UK today), and used A-Scanner to check the protection. I played the demo, which was superb, but it restarted my machine, which looks like it may be Ye olde pal Starforce.

[jimbo82]

I've used Clony XXL for scanning this game. And Clony has find out that it is protected with SafeDisc.

[JoyBoy]

Ever so slightly off topic, but I played the demo last night. Cool game. The Nitrous effect has been blatently stolen from Burnout (I think even Midnight Club had that blur effect too). Even that whole 'throw the driver through the windscreen' has a Takenout/Takedown feel to it (also from Burnout). If you dont have access to Burnout 3, then get this, as its probably the closest you will ever get to Burnout on the PC :D

Riiiiiiiiiisssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[t.foster73]

I believe it's not out in the US until next year. Does this mean less chance of a NOCD do you think?

[cdkiller]

in germany it´s allready released ;)
i think it´s securom 5.03.06 but i´m only guessing..

[Luciel]

Ok i just bought it (AWSOME GAME BTW, Destruction Derby fans will love it to bits), used PiD v5.0 final b...

-=[ ProtectionID v5 ]=- (c) CdKiller
Build 17032004....
> Ready
Scanning -> G:\00000000.256
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.656 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\00000001.TMP
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\00000002.TMP
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.750 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\DrvMgt.dll
File Type : Dll, Size : 41472 (0A200h) Bytes
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.953 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\SECDRV.SYS
File Type : Exe, Size : 163644 (027F3Ch) Bytes
-> File has 60 (03Ch) bytes of appended data starting at offset 027F00h
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.969 Seconds

Scanning -> G:\program files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\common2.bfs
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 123.797 Seconds

Thats the scan of the whole cd
And here's the scan of the game folder on the HDD


Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Bugbear.url
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\common1.bfs
[x] File size is > 20mb, operation aborted due to user request
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\common2.bfs
[x] File size is > 20mb, operation aborted due to user request
- Scan Took : 0.984 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Empire Interactive.url
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\europe.bfs
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.985 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\filesystem.ini
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\flatout.exe
File Type : Exe, Size : 4500491 (044AC0Bh) Bytes
-> File has 1649675 (0192C0Bh) bytes of appended data starting at offset 02B8000h
[!] File appears to have no protection or is using an unknown protection
- Scan Took : 0.422 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\FlatOut.url
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\am0000000000000000000 0000000000000.dat
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\device.cfg
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\options.cfg
[-] File too small to be executable..skipped
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\options.sav
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.968 Seconds

Scanning -> C:\Program Files\Empire Interactive\FlatOut\Savegame\player001.sav
[-] File is NON executable..(non MZ)
- Scan Took : 0.0 Seconds

[Psykiatri]

Anyone have a crack for this yet? I have the ISO's but need a crack.. Apparently its using a new version of safedisc...

[pcs-alien]

Any news about nocd ?

Alien

[Luciel]

Psykiatri, go buy the game u twat. BANNED

[Magnetic]

i bought it yesterday it´s a really good game, really reminds me of the good old destruction derby times :D , scanned the first cd ( btw cd 2 is also protected) with aray and it says safedisc 2( if it was 3.2.xxx, aray would have recognized it), so it´s gotta be a new revision of safedisc, it´s like clony xxl said or says safedisc 2 when scanning a disc with safedisc 3...well i made an image with clone cd 5 and mounting with dt works fine, you can play via back up, also tried mir, sadly doesn´t work, so it´s a new safedisc version i guess....

[Luciel]

its rlly weird that my scan came out with nothing o.O anyhow, yes it feels nostalgic i used to love the DD games, and it rlly pissed me off when the third in the series (RAW) only came out on psx, fecking bastards. Aniways no one seems to play flatout online just yet, :P

[cdkiller]

its rlly weird that my scan came out with nothing
see the answer in my protection id thread.

[Luciel]

oh ok, well hope u release an update version :)

[Newbinator]

how come the game is already out?? gamespot said it will be out next year??

and will there be a No-CD crack released soon? i really want to buy this game in canada..but dunno where

[Luciel]

ive talked to friends in other countrys and it looks like uk got an early release
wich is weird.

[freeman002]

Does anyone no when a nocd will be released for this as ive tried to make working backups from the origionals it keeps saying insert cd even used 4.7 of deamon toolz still no luck also is it just me or does this game swap-file a **** load mine jerks every so often and the cd light locks up so a nocd would be great it would also fix my backup i suppose as im not very clued up on all this deamon tools safedisk emulation ****....

mobo is

athlon 2600xp
2x 150 sata 80gig 7200 rpm drives
windows swapfile on second drive not windows installed drive
epox main board (wicked i might add)

no other game does this id just like to add

[pc_plod]

any news on a no-cd yet ???
only ive heard that there are other "copys" flying about that work without a no-cd just via daemon tools

[pc_plod]

ive sorted it out, seems the game was picking up on clonecd virtual drives (even though i'd got them disabled)... uninstalled clonecd and game plays a treat with image 1 mounted on daemon

[BarryB]

I think this game has the new Safedisc v4 or Safedisc Advanced (maybe they are one and the same?), that's why Clony and other ID progs can't find the signatures. The fact it has 00000001.TMP and 00000002.TMP files on the CD suggest Safedisc as well.

If it is a new breed of Safedisc it may take a bit more time for a crack, nevermind a 'working' crack :) to appear.

[Luciel]

Thats IT, NEXT PERSON TO ASK FOR A NOCD ON THIS THREAD B4 THE END OF NEXT WEEEk (2weeks) GETS A 1month BAN!

[n00bie]

Well I like racing games and after Bounty gave it a raving review I looked it up and bought it. This gave me a chance to play around with it.

Using the latest daemon tools this game works perfectly without a cd. I also had to remove clonecd.

[Magnetic]

yeah that works for me also, but even without uninstalling clone cd...did you try mir? doesnt´work...i hope there will be an update for the new sd version.

[t.foster73]

Fine for me to. Great game, but I'm currently spending most time on NEXUS The Jupiter Incident, which is awesome!

[renandstimpy]

it doesnt work for me. ive mounted it in deamon tools (3.47) and it still asks for cd. im obviously doing something wrong. can someone help?

[krondike]

To summery all the conclusion we have on this f*cking topic.

Is there a no-cd out?
Nope (Officaly).

Protection?
Read CDKiller's Protection ID topic. He says new safedisc version have deleted the SafeDisc version tag, so protection ID can't find the SafeDisc Id-tag. So my bet it's "new" SafeDisc.

Can it be emulated?
I haven't have any problem with emulating the new game's that was SafeDisc protected, like The Sims 2.
Hardly doubt that I should have problem with this one.

Will a mini image be avible?
Someday in sometime it will be... it will be.

@renandstimpy: Remake your image file.

@BarryB: Hardy doubt it's SafeDisc 4. SafeDisc 3 was newly released and realy think it's need to be more "rebuild" to make it label Safedisc 4. This might be SafeDisc 3.3 or SafeDisc 3.4... who knows.

@freeman002: When I can confirm that it can be emulated (becuase hard to confirm without having the original CD:s to read it in) I might/or someone else might make a mini-image so you all can enjoy without the CD in it.....:D

[gmtakira]

I remove clonecd and use latest daemon tools version. that works!

[BarryB]

@krondike: I was going by the fact that Knight Rider 2 and the Myst 4: Revelation Patch 1.1 are being ID'd as Safedisc v4.

Maybe Macrovision stepped up it's development cycle?

[Bobby Shaftoe]

flatout starts up without any problems with d-tools, but i got CTDs whenever i try to choose a game type.

[jayjai2001]

In Germany it´s defently Savedisk.With the new Version of Clone cd and Deamon toll you can Play without cd.When you use Mini Image Recorder
youre image are ca. 27Kb.

[sky1984]

ok, just joined. was reading that some of you have got Flatout working using deamon tools 3.47

i have just downloaded that and as wondering if someone would be so kind as to help me do what i need to do to play it. :)

Thanks.

[krondike]

ok, just joined. was reading that some of you have got Flatout working using deamon tools 3.47

i have just downloaded that and as wondering if someone would be so kind as to help me do what i need to do to play it. :)

Thanks.
What about the game? :p

[JoyBoy]

Well I like racing games and after Bounty gave it a raving review I looked it up and bought it.
Raving? I basically tried to say it was not as good as Burnout 3 :cool: Personally, besides the car physics, which put Burnout to shame, this game is stupid. One big issue I have with the game, is that for a Track Racer, the actual Tracks themselves dont feel natural. If a racer cant get the tracks right, why should I bother to play it. :mad:

Consoles rule for Racing Games!

[Magnetic]

In Germany it´s defently Savedisk.With the new Version of Clone cd and Deamon toll you can Play without cd.When you use Mini Image Recorder
youre image are ca. 27Kb.


mh, strange, mir doesn´t work for me, i can only play with mounting the full ccd image of cd 1 :confused:

[Rayder]

To those having "emulation detected..." issues with CloneCD and this game when mounting in D-Tools......open the CloneCD tray icon and UNcheck "Hide CDR Media". To successfully mount it in D-Tools, ALL the emulation options MUST be enabled in D-Tools. That should fix it for ya.

Of course there is always the thing of "just use the originals" too. ;)

Great game BTW.

[dEviZe]

I need the nocd crack or Burn doc (Anleitung).
thx
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I can't so good English!!!!!!!

[lurch68b]

Well if this don't suck big nuggies!! I have played the demo and found it to be fun but not so fun I would spend a lot of time playing it. Now the full version I would play a bit more but I can't buy it because some fool decided to delay a US release. :( Oh well I guess it's a good thing as there is so much stuff coming out that I wouldn't have a lot of time to play it anyways.

[Zippo1985]

In Germany it´s defently Savedisk.With the new Version of Clone cd and Deamon toll you can Play without cd.When you use Mini Image Recorder
youre image are ca. 27Kb.


Sorry, but what's that "Mini Image Recorder" and where can it be found ?? :confused:

[[[UK]]Toker]

I have just brought Flatout and think its wicked game yet theres no 1 playing online :( i think it would be a good idea if we arrange a time to play 4 those who have brought the game as i think it would be fun i will have a game waiting at 8pm tonight if any1 would like to join if not ill post my msn addy so those of u who can play can msn me to arrange some banger raceing :)

[Luciel]

Hey toker, i really cant tonight, but id love to play some other time, get my msn addie from my pro and add me :)

[[[UK]]Toker]

kool luciel ive added u to msn and will chat 2moz and have a few games will be fun :D

[Nikeless]

I didnt buy the game out of princip . In german version there are crash dummies . Which look relly bad modded . So i have to play the demo agia and again

[Machina]

For some reason I cannot back the game up...

[krondike]

Sorry no mini-image can't be created. It's seams to have a image intact system. Means if I edit the file, it ether don't start or crashes after SafeDisc scanning. However seams that the .bfs files are the one who have some information about that. If you can break that file you can problebly make a mini-image. Mir didn't work!

Protection is however SafeDisc.

Alcohol 120% dosen't works for emulating. Deamon tools are the one that's works with!

However it will not detect Alcohol is installed. So Alcohol 120% and deamon tools are the only one that's can be installed, ALL OTHER EMULATIONS TOOLS NEED TO BE UNINSTALLED!

Becuase of this crashing f*cking thing, maybe that's why it's take extra time for crackers to crack the system! ;)

[Magnetic]

I didnt buy the game out of princip . In german version there are crash dummies . Which look relly bad modded . So i have to play the demo agia and again

you can modify the filesystem.ini, then you have the usual models...

[SchrOEder]

Hehe...

Flatout works fine with Deamon-Tools :D

[noscript]

I did a mini image for both English and German version, if you want it PM me :)

I sent it to gcw 2days ago but its not posted on the main page yet.

[Playbahnosh]

Well, i have some problems. I made a ccd iso with Clonecd and burned it to disc. I've tried to play the game with the backup disc: I launched the exe, it places out the blue gauge loading window, and then it starts to spin the cd but it locks up. I tried to run the game setup but it locks up at the loading window too with still reading the cd. Can anyone help me?

[n2s]

FlatOut mini image is out. It worked fine for me.
Flat Out [GERMAN] No-CD/Fixed Image (http://gcw.clickthelinks.com/games/pc_flat_out.shtml)
Works for the US. version too.

[Romano_Cule]

FlatOut mini image is out. It worked fine for me.
Flat Out [GERMAN] No-CD/Fixed Image (http://gcw.clickthelinks.com/games/pc_flat_out.shtml)
Works for the US. version too.

It's not working.It crashed on the beginning of the game.Just reset PC.

[noscript]

It's not working.It crashed on the beginning of the game.Just reset PC.

it works but you have downloaded version from the internet ;)

[Romano_Cule]

it works but you have downloaded version from the internet ;)

I don't understand?!I installed deamon tool,mount fomini-skl.mds and game starts ok.But when i launch to drive,PC reset.

[noscript]

did you get originals or die you get images?

[Romano_Cule]

did you get originals or die you get images?

I have orginal,but i mounted that mini iso image.

[n2s]

I have orginal,but i mounted that mini iso image.

Thats a driver bug. Install Forceware v67.02 or edit the options.cfg in your game directory. Change "Settings.Visual.SunFlare = TRUE" Change "Settings.Visual.SunFlare = FALSE"

That should work

[Hurby]

Thats a driver bug. Install Forceware v67.02 or edit the options.cfg in your game directory. Change "Settings.Visual.SunFlare = TRUE" Change "Settings.Visual.SunFlare = FALSE"

That should work
I wonder where you got that info from.... :rolleyes: :p
(Link) (http://www.mgforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=227151&postcount=105) :D

[n2s]

I wonder where you got that info from.... :rolleyes: :p
(Link) (http://www.mgforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=227151&postcount=105) :D

CTRL+C CTRL+V ;P

[Romano_Cule]

Thats a driver bug. Install Forceware v67.02 or edit the options.cfg in your game directory. Change "Settings.Visual.SunFlare = TRUE" Change "Settings.Visual.SunFlare = FALSE"

That should work

But i have Ati Radeon XT and 4.11 catalyst???! :)Newermind.I change this to false and now it's working,so i would tell this is game bug,not driver bug.

[Dell Dimensional]

I've heard that some (or at least one) of you wasn't able to make backup image of your CDs, but you who have succeded in doing backups then, how did you do?? which program?

[AX-Turbo]

I wonder how this Alcohol-Images (working fine here) can be so small? Is this possible for other Alcohol Image-Files, too? We´re playing "Gilde" with an Alcohol-Image, but this Image is only needed to startup the Game (Copy Protection Check). So is there a way to reduce the Image size? Thanx & sorry for my rookie english!

[Scoty29]

i use Alcohol 120% and have a problem. when i start the game my PC will freeze.
is a no-cd aviable?