View Full Version : Does anyone know what protection SIMS 2 will use?
t.foster73
09-09-2004, 10:39
OK, I know this isn't released until a week on Friday, but does anyone know what protection it will use, or to be more specific, will it use Starforce 3? Don't flame me here, I'm not asking for a nocd, I just thought that as it went gold 3 weeks ago, someone might know what Copy protection it uses. I've searched the 'You know what sites', not to download, because I'm not a thief (Also on 56k!), but there are no signs of it, which may be a pointer that it will utilize SF3. Thanks
munsterbuster
09-09-2004, 11:31
hm. It comes from EA. So maybe they stay on securom as on Sims 1 add-ons. If they are clever, they use starforce on DVD. Race 2 is greeting. :D
EA have an agreement with those Macrovision people dont they? Every EA game I have ever encountered has always had some version of Safedisc on there. Safe bet to say that Sims will have the latest version of that on there.
krondike
10-09-2004, 08:47
Safe to say it will be beaten in an hour or 2.... ;)
when is the actual launch date aniways?
t.foster73
10-09-2004, 09:24
14th September US. 17th September UK.
why do they always do that, one country first then the other one, its so dammed stupid, they just bring piracy on themseves. the uk player not wanting to wait the extra 3 days just goes and download it, same happened with Doom 3 and thats why it became the most pirated game of history
Hahahaa, Luciel, tell me you aint looking forward to this 'game'? ;)
Lol actually i aint lol, when the first one came out i tottally got hooked and since then i HATE IT lol :p but it really bothered me having to wait 10 days extra for doom 3 so i though id comment :)
munsterbuster
10-09-2004, 12:20
Well I hate it but my girlfriend is praising me for a long time when I finally get it.
krondike
11-09-2004, 01:31
Well Doom 3 is typical male game. Kill kill kill without thinking.
And Sims 2 are typical female game. Love, hate and etc, like Big Brother and other stupid "reality shows" (I say the "faked reality" (show)).
sawyer77
11-09-2004, 13:20
apparently not a very good one considering it's been pirated already a week before the release date.
krondike
11-09-2004, 13:56
You can exclude SafeDisc 2, becuase no new developed games are using the old SafeDisc 2, at least they use SafeDisc 3 (if they use SafeDisc at all) in this case they use SafeDisc 3 + Serial, witch not supprise me, expect the same for NHL 2005, Fifa 2005, EuroCupFotboll 2005 and the manager game version, 2005. E A Sports is in the....Macrovisions hands...
munsterbuster
13-09-2004, 04:58
Well when its safedisc, crack should be avaible soon. Meanwhile I will try alcohol or MIR then.
t.foster73
13-09-2004, 05:30
It seems to me that anyone who has a dodgy copy of a game either has it already cracked, or has the nocd on the pirate disc. Those asking for a NOCD (Like myself) have usually bought the game and want to back up their original, or play without the cd. It's a paradox that the crackers allow us to do this, but that's the way it is! Maybe GCW could employ a new system, and only forward the nocd to those who scan their receipt for said game, or show a digi photo of themselves with the game. I'm buying 'The Sims 2' on Friday, and would love to have a nocd/nodvd ready for when I get it. I know it's been ripped off all over the place, but I've already pre-paid for my copy, and will continue to do so, as I believe developers should get paid for their hard work. The ONLY reason I'm happy it's cracked is because..1.It means STARFORCE3 is not used, which I find a REAL pain, and 2.Hopefully we should see a nocd/nodvd for this title. Besides, with a pirate copy you don't know if the game works properly, and you don't get any instructions. It's much better to own a shiny new original of any game. I find it strange that a previous poster said they downloaded SIMS2 but hadn't got a nocd fix for it. I'm against this of course, but Does this mean none of the WAREZ versions are playable until someone makes a fix? Never having dealt with ripped software I'm not familiar with the system, and am obviously weary of talking about such things on this site. I just assumed Warez rips came with a nocd crack. Is this not the case?
krondike
13-09-2004, 07:50
There is a warez out there with just a perfect image of Sims 2. Often SafeDisc procted games are cloned to a perfect image and released in to warez. Just look at EastSideHocker Manager, (maybe) upcomming NHL 2005, but enough talk about warez and not warez things.
YOU CAN MAKE A PERFECT 1:1 IMAGE AND EMULATE IT. ALL BACKUP EMULATE AND THINGS ARE IN OUR GUIDES. READ IT AND LOVE IT!
t.foster73
13-09-2004, 08:50
Are you saying that The Sims 2 uses a current version of safedisc that Daemon tools or Alcohol could mount successfully? Usually when a big title is released (Which The Sims2 is, whether you are a fan of this type of game or not), that game uses the latest version of securom or safedisc, which blacklists all current image mounting tools. Maybe EA Games reckon that this title will be in such demand, that it will be ripped whatever protection they use, and so aren't too concerned about it. After all, this WILL be the biggest selling title on the PC this year, and I include Far Cry and Doom3 in this. I think it's because the title also appeals to the ladies out there. I'd still like a nocd fix when I buy it on Friday though, as I don't like having originals or Image tools on my machine.
does anyone know what protection it will use, or to be more specific, will it use Starforce 3?
It is protected with SafeDisc 3.20.020. Any removal solutions?
krondike
13-09-2004, 12:18
Are you saying that The Sims 2 uses a current version of safedisc that Daemon tools or Alcohol could mount successfully?
Look at this:
http://www.nforce.nl/nfos/renderer/ls-black.php?id=75828
Hardly doubt that EA Games change to Sony SecuROM.
If they use latest SafeDisc it can be emulated. Deamon Tools have been undected in very long time, without any updates/upgraded releases!
t.foster73
13-09-2004, 15:25
So can the latest version of Daemon cope with SafeDisc 3.20.020, if indeed this is the version that is used?
sebas2398
13-09-2004, 16:08
I've tried making a backup copy with Alcohol then using Daemon...maybe I'm dumb but it didn't work....
It's safedisk 3.020.xxx
And you guys?
t.foster73
13-09-2004, 16:57
Admin:Suggest closing this thread until Wednesday, when the game is released in the US. Only then will we get proper protection info, and not hearsay from Warez monkey's! We want to hear feedback from people making Virtual drives from their ORIGINAL DISKS, not pirates trying to run dodgy rips.
p.s.Far Cry was Safedisc 3.20.022, so I fail to see how The Sims 2 would use an earlier version than this. That doesn't make sense at all. It's more than likely a brand new version that blacklists current mounting tools.
Thread tidied up. NO WAREZ PEOPLE!!!!!!!
krondike
14-09-2004, 09:18
p.s.Far Cry was Safedisc 3.20.022, so I fail to see how The Sims 2 would use an earlier version than this. That doesn't make sense at all. It's more than likely a brand new version that blacklists current mounting tools.
SafeDisc 3.2 could be emulated! ;)
And I don't have the game, so don't know the protection or the emulation. Just saying it can be emulated if it's SafeDisc, the game is releasing far from this day in Sweden. :/
Anyway have nothing against if someone closing this topic. :cool:
munsterbuster
14-09-2004, 09:40
Hopefully I get it tomorrow.
Official news and backup tries then :D
is the game actually out yet? i know its on friday in the uk...
wtf???in greece it'll come in december...
t.foster73
14-09-2004, 12:05
I believe you need a high end cpu and graphics card to run this game well. All EA Games need loads of patches before they run well, and this will be no exception.
coolnhl_dot_nl
14-09-2004, 12:11
Is the game not releasd in the UK?
Over here in the Netherlands the game hit the stores today.
nah comes out on the 17th (friday)
munsterbuster
15-09-2004, 03:56
So Ladies. It has Safedisc 3.20.020.
Made an image with Alcohol newest version settings Safedisc 3. Put it into virtual drive of Alcohol and Daemon tools 3.47. Installs fine and starts without any failure. Deleted it.
So I burned it with Safedisc 3 settings with and one without EFM. Both are installing fine but don't start.
soooo I transfered the images to my laptop and I'm playing from the mounted one.
MrOrgazmo
15-09-2004, 05:53
I have the Newest Version of Alcohol 120% Ver 1.9.2.1705 - and All it has under the Extra emulaton option is Safedisk and Safedisk 2. I don't see where to turn on safedisk 3.
munsterbuster
15-09-2004, 05:59
It is the same
MrOrgazmo
15-09-2004, 06:14
I have 1 more question. I'm sorry I dont wanna sound like a newb but... I am in the process of installing with Alcohol with the safedisk emulation and after I should just be able to run it right from the Alcohol Emulation Drive is this not correct? Or Do I run it from the Deamon Tools Emulation drive? What are the exact steps. I looked Like you said before that you run it from Both alcohol and deamon at the same time, how is that possible...
munsterbuster
15-09-2004, 07:53
It should run in both virtual drives. It runs fine in the virtual drive from alcohol or deamon. there should be no difference.
By the way, I marked all the emulation options
crompton
15-09-2004, 14:04
the advantage of the release date difference in the 2 countries will mean that people in the us already will have 3days head start on cracking it n other stuff so it will all be to easy for people in the u.k as the americans will do it 4 us, lol
RosePilchett
15-09-2004, 14:24
haha, yeah that's true, they probably have another reason, maybe they want to make sure the game follows all the rules of that country (no blood, etc) first
The way i see it, they bring piracy to themselfs by releasing it in a country b4 another
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