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HanSolo211
28-10-2001, 02:35
What is the best Method to make a backup for the PS2 ?

So far I made all backups using Clone Cd but I experienced some problems though.

My systems:

>TB 800@1000, WinME, Brainwave BP 1300 (12x Write Speed, latest Firmware), Pioneer DVD 115

>Playstation 2 German PAL, Neo 2.2 + DVD Region X

Method to backup:
>Reading: Clone CD > Read image with the Brainwave BP 1300 (fully compatible with Clone CD) > Reading Speed max (sometimes tried with 2x) > first 3 settings activated ( sub channels & abort at error)

>Writing: Clone CD > Burn from image > using speeds 2x to 4x Burn Proof activated, always close last session

The first two games I backuped I burnt with max speed. These Games work better than the other 2 I burnt with 2x and 4x speed. All the games are louder than my original game discs.
It's not bout the CDRs I use, I already got some
Verbatim Data Life +.

Then there's another thing bout the backups made with 2x and 4x speed (Extreme G Racing and Bloody Roar 3):

EGR: in the second stage the sound starts looping in the 2nd round, after finishing the stage the game stocks for 1 or 2 seconds. Before and after that I couldn't recognize any errors so far.

Bloody Roar 3: after booting with EA method, the Hudson Logo appears normaly, then the screen freezes loads freezes, this all comes with heavy reading from my DVD-Rom in the PS 2. After a minute or so the game goes on without any further problems and you can play it, it just sometimes loads longer between some stages during that loading time you can hear the drive having problems reading.

Next thing I did was to call the #####r I got my PS 2 from, he also installed the chip. He told me that this would be a regular problem coming with clone cd. He says: " Clone CD was good for making copies of PSX games for they had copy protections which clone cd just burnt, too. For the PS 2 you don't need clone cd cos the games are not protected."
Then he told me that he would make all his backups using CDRWIN making 1:1 copys without patching and anything and he's always booting with the EA method (holding down the reset button after inserting dvdrx). He said this would make much cleaner copys and the PS 2 don't has any problems with this backups.

The reason why I'm telling all this is that I'd like to know whether anyone has experienced same things, especially on a German PAL PS2 and generally whether people use that 1:1 copy. So far I alway read the image with my writer to the HD than wrote it from there.

zoedee
28-10-2001, 03:56
clonecd rocks
ps2 games np
use your cdwriter to read then write
for ps2 only option to tick is abort on read error
(u not need sub channels)
try this works fine for me
i have english playstation
neo2.2
fm radio
yamaha 2100e
verbatims rule (but i can use anything)

Charlie
28-10-2001, 04:00
I won't deal with game specific issues - others know more about that.

According to the ClonCD Supported writers list, the BP1300 doesn't support sub-channel data on reading. If those games need that, then there' your problem most likely. It explains digital sound problems.

As to what your #####r says: For the Neo chipped PS2 PAL, there is nothing to beat CloneCD as the copy method. It avoids the nead for EA patches and indeed nearly every other sort of patch. That is the consensus view of the Forum as well.

zoedee
28-10-2001, 04:19
hmm
sounds like i should b reading subchannels
correct charlie?
trusty old yamaha 2100e

bckloon
28-10-2001, 05:01
I would tend to go with a problem with your writer not reading sub channel data.

i use clone 99.9% of the time , Have made backups of the games you have mentioned with no problems.

Burned at 16x speed using a 24x Plex ,
I have the pal/neo2 combo and boot with either ar 1.3/extreme fm.

ALSO your ps2 might not like vertbatims , some ps2 not all dont like verts but its a case of trying different media and see what happens.

HanSolo211
28-10-2001, 05:33
I don't see that my writer don't supports Sub channel reading. I always had the boxes ticked and no error message occured. Maybe I'll try like zoedee say and deselect the subchannels.