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Stevey1976
02-01-2004, 10:48
Can someone please tell me what this Swap Magic is that I keep hearing about?
Cheers
It's a method whereby you pay someone to damage your PS2.
Amazing, isn't it?
- Gurm
It is a piece of crap wanna be mod. Get a real mod such as a Messiah 2, DMS3, Duo, Apple Pro, Magic V, or Smartchip.
Nosforatu
02-01-2004, 11:24
Swap Magic is also used when you have a "no solder" mod chip, as I do. Unless you have a 39000x version you can use gameshark, but if you do, then Magic Swap is what you need. If you can, I would suggest going for a "real" modchip like messiah, etc. But if you can't solder and can't find someone to, like me, no solder with swap magic works.
Stevey1976
02-01-2004, 13:10
Jeez, whatever happened to a straightforward answer?
yeah u will need eather a no solder chip or a flip top lid which most peps uses flip top or a pos slid card to use the swap disk but other then that they play most games just fine if u like swaping disk out u can check out www.ps2ownz.com almost ever one there uses th swap disk u can learn ever thing u need about this there :)
TylerDurden
02-01-2004, 15:16
Originally posted by EVOEvo
check out www.ps2ownz.com almost ever one there uses the swap disk
Only because the owner will ban anyone who talks dirt about that piece of crap flip top or swap magic. I hate Z or whatever he calls himself now.
Tyler!
seaneyb2003
02-01-2004, 15:29
Originally posted by TylerDurden
Only because the owner will ban anyone who talks dirt about that piece of crap flip top or swap magic. I hate Z or whatever he calls himself now.
Tyler!
lol dirty ps2 ownz hehe!
with me i would take no solder over flip tops cause there made cheap the doors break off ez i bought 4 sets with swap disk from some guy for 100$ and one of the lids is alrdy broken and im useing one on my v9 for the time begin :) but for 25$ shiped is'nt bad cause swap magic cost 20$ a set
Originally posted by TylerDurden
Only because the owner will ban anyone who talks dirt about that piece of crap flip top or swap magic. I hate Z or whatever he calls himself now.
Tyler!
I couldnt agree with you more TD, Thats one little punk i would love to slap around.
Originally posted by Stevey1976
Jeez, whatever happened to a straightforward answer?
Swap magic are boot disc that are used to load backups, Swap magic disc along with Z's Flip top tolet lid or a no solder mod will boot some backups but not all.
No-swap chips are CHEAP, you would have to be a idiot to buy this crap, or as one of our moderators says
GHETTO!!
Actually guys, I Have a flip top that i ordered from www.ps2case.com and its really good quality, and I like it a lot. I Havent came across a game i couldnt boot yet with swap magic or various versions of CD Loader...Just my .02
Culokin,
We have an ongoing list of games that you are GUARANTEED to not be able to boot with your "system wrecker 2000".
- Gurm
i belive the cd loader fixed ever game so far on swap magic had probs with :) but thats alot more swaping i stuck a flip top on my v9 sence my smart chip craped out it works for now better then not playing at all :) the only bad thing is sending it back to netmech for repairs another 6 days just in shiping turn around time :(
Ok now that you guys answered, steveys question <what is swap magic> I ask ..... "how does swap magic cause harm to the ps2 system" and why is it sooo "Ghetto" I was getting ready to give it a shot <swap magic that is> till I came across this forum, which has nothing but nagative reviews. Please give details on swap magic I would appreciate it.
u might want to check out www.ps2ownz.net theres alot of reviews on it there and the swap dics cant hurt a ps2 its just if u use a slide card with the disc it could tear up a system or flip tops i used it for a few days it worked fine and i dont belive it will kill ur ps2 unless u leave the lid open all the time lol and with no solder chips with swap disc i never seen a problem with them unless u get a bad chip which is unlikely and it would kill a ps2 right off i had this happen b4 :( but that was like 1 chip out of 50 lol but what ever rout u go the slide card will be most likely to kill a ps2 unit right off but which ever way u go u will need one of the 3 to boot the games with swap disk
A. a slide card = crap
B. a flip top lid = decent lids can break ez though
C. a no solder mod = best of the 3 works pretty good in my eyes the best u can get for a mod besides a solder chip there the best
If would use a no-solder mod before i used the lid.
BTW the owner of PS2OWNZ.com, Z or whatever he calls himself, invented the flip lid and is VERY biased. He bans any negative feedback on it as well as the person that posted it.
Newbie's come here for advise yet rarely take it. If you want hassle free booting buy a no-swap chip and stay away from this crap. It really doesnt cost that much more.
TylerDurden
08-01-2004, 05:44
Ive been thinkin of outlawing the posts of fliptop lids and swap magics here. What do you think Warlock. I wont ban anyone, just lock the thread and post a rule about it in the forum rules.:D
Tyler!
Originally posted by TylerDurden
Ive been thinkin of outlawing the posts of fliptop lids and swap magics here. What do you think Warlock. I wont ban anyone, just lock the thread and post a rule about it in the forum rules.:D
Tyler! Absolutely :D :D
TylerDurden
08-01-2004, 16:39
Cool, Ill talk it over with Biggie and see what we come up with.
Tyler!
Originally posted by TylerDurden
Cool, Ill talk it over with Biggie and see what we come up with.
Tyler!
GEEZ! I feel so left out! :D :D
TylerDurden
08-01-2004, 18:41
LOL, get on MSN Messenger or AIM sometime bud and Ill fill you in. My new AIM name is FileForumsDevil.
Tyler!
Originally posted by Warlock
If would use a no-solder mod before i used the lid.
BTW the owner of PS2OWNZ.com, Z or whatever he calls himself, invented the flip lid and is VERY biased. He bans any negative feedback on it as well as the person that posted it.
Newbie's come here for advise yet rarely take it. If you want hassle free booting buy a no-swap chip and stay away from this crap. It really doesnt cost that much more.
yeah they r made very cheap it dont take much and the lid will break maybe if some one else makes it and puts more time into it could last awhile i bought some for a relly cheap price to resell :D and the lid was busted on one that was never used only payed 25$ each for them with swap magic shiped which is relly a decent price cause swap disk r 20$ each
Hey tyler if you guys would have outlawed posts on filp tops and swap magics here a week ago, I wouldn't have read all these negative replies about it, therefor making me (a newbie) possibly buying the piece of crap. I think instead of outlawing swap magic etc. posts.. you guys should make a thread on why it sucks so much and warning all the newbies to avoid this product. I think the negative reviews about it might damage sales then again I'm a newbie I could be wrong and my opinion might be useless.
i dont think it would even dent the sales check out ownz 90% of the people there use no solder mods and such and there site has been number 1 for awhile so that means alot of peps vist it i like going there to the b/s/t section and also cheaking out the newz like on playing copy games online there getting close to solveing this problem :) but i vist here ownz and newz i check them all out :)
seaneyb2003
08-01-2004, 23:52
i have non solders i got my self a duo chip fitted :):D
Originally posted by EVOEvo
i dont think it would even dent the sales check out ownz 90% of the people there use no solder mods and such and there site has been number 1 for awhile so that means alot of peps vist it i like going there to the b/s/t section and also cheaking out the newz like on playing copy games online there getting close to solveing this problem :) but i vist here ownz and newz i check them all out :)
I dont think there the #1 site EVO, maybe #1 in the #2 business :D
TylerDurden
09-01-2004, 05:34
@lxdsmxl
Very good point. Me and Bighap discussed this issue for a few hours yesterday and found it may be a more complicated subject than normal. Your idea sure does help quite a bit though.
Tyler!
thats just what peps at newz said even though they h8 ownz they said there was one stite better then them they told me in a bad way lol and i read some were they was like number 1 3 yo's in a row but thats just what i read it dont make no difrance to me i vist them all :)
I used to use these forums a lot but to be honest they seem to have gone down hill.
Big up to Bighap/BG/Charlie/Tyler & Warlock and I hope non of this offends any of you.
I had a spare no solder lying around so after selling my V5 messiah a year ago decided to put the no solder into a brand new V7.
I had a couple of spare swap magic discs so decided to make it a temp job until I could be bothered installing a messiah 2.
1 year down the line and I've still got the no solder and swap magic setup cause it works fine and doesn't freeze games such as GTA vice city/kingdom hearts etc (like on Magic 3)
I did a lot of testing for the forum when 'problem' games occured with the swap magic 2 and compiled a list which may still be around on this forum but with the CDloader (Or swap magic 3) EVERY SINGLE GAME BOOTS(Including HighTOC Rips)
In my opinion yes it's a lot of messing around but it is a valid set up for people who don't want to install a solder chip.
Deciding to ban talk of swap magic is pathetic and even more childish than the goings on over at ps2ownz. I remember the days when this forum was to give people ways of playing their backups, with honest opinions and experiences. Not just crap such as " Swap magic is an easy way to kill your ps2" cause swap magic doesn't do *hit all damage at all.
spedmetal
10-01-2004, 08:35
WOW this thread is getting allot of input for old out dated technology that is crap when compared with no-swap technology. Come on people we have been in the age of no-swaps for over a year now! Get with the times and a much better way of playing your back-ups. @Jay_83, I don’t think Tyler was talking about 'banning' all talk of swap magic and no-solders, just linking them to a thread that already states the views of many others on this forum that would explain the pros and cons of why or why not people should use the swap magic/no-solders. Ultimately though we all know including you Jay_83 that there is no comparison to no-swap mod's, and that’s the point I believe we are trying to get across here. Yes the swap magic/no-solder is a good way for people that don’t want to open there PS2 or even solder a mod chip in to be able to play back-ups but as Warlock said its really doesn’t cost allot more to have some one do it for you, might even be less in some cases. But in the end it’s totally up to the person that owns the PS2 but I say DOWN with swap magic and no-solders they are a pain in the ass!
TylerDurden
10-01-2004, 08:58
@Jay_83,
Im sorry if I or any other of the moderators here have failed you on these forums.
But I still feel the no-solder and flip tops are ghetto. Mainly because they are just so tedeous in nature.
For example its the same reason we dont have tutorials on how to rip dvd games here. Its just an outdated and overworked practice.
As for your comment about "childish goings on". Dude we are playing video games here. Everything here is childish.
Like spedmetal said, I dont want to "ban" people for talking about these devices, I just wish to be rid of it. But in retrospect, I may leave the decision up to the users of the ps2 forum. Keep an eye on the top of the ps2 forum for a new temporary sticky. ;)
Tyler!
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