View Full Version : Version 2 problem installing Magic 3.1
Is there an alternate soldering point for point S? No matter what I do I can't seem to be able to get to the other side of the motherboard. Bah!
Thanks.
crazygamelover
10-12-2003, 12:27
are you sure you want to use the magic 3.1 chip?
I have been reading alot about how they have a tendency to wear out the laser faster than normal. I would recommend a Duo chip instead. They are low in price and very reliable. Free shipping to boot. Also if you are interested in having one installed, pm Spedmetal. He can install one for $60.00 this includes chip, install service and return shipping. He is in the middle of a move right now so it may take him a couple days to reply. There are a number of other mod installers here that may even be able to help you. Plz read up on the magic 3.1 though cause I'm sure you will change your mind once you read previous posts on this chip.
Huh? Where did you hear that? Mod chips don't wear out your laser(except Neos), backups do.
crazygamelover
10-12-2003, 12:43
I stand corrected, Thanks for the correction Biggie.
Thats what I meant, (backups with Magic 3.1). I was reading in a previous post about SplinterCell not going to the secont level if its a v7 or higher. I was under the perception that the Magic 3.1 was not a very reliable chip. Thats why Duo was recommended to me and have really good reviews as well. So I wanted to recommend it too.
crazygamelover
10-12-2003, 12:57
click here (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=44858&highlight=magic3.1) to view a Magic 3.1 review.
ShadowKnyght
10-12-2003, 16:25
S point... as in the SCEX point as labeled on other chips...?
What version PS2 do you have?
this may help - just change the number where it says V7 if you have a different station...
http://www.china-magic.com/magic3/diagrams/MAGIC_III_V7.jpg
Not sure what you mean by getting to the other side of the MB... as far as I was aware these were the only connection points available for this wire.
You can solder to either the resistor or the cap - or bridge between them with solder and solder to both - makes the connection stronger. the points are connected with a track anyway.
see attached - all the points circled are ok as alternatives.
I'm useing the version 2 and on the diagram it has a second picture that says bottom side and that's where the connection has to go for the S connect.
ShadowKnyght
11-12-2003, 02:12
oh... ok - sorry then - we never got the V2's in Oz - started at the V3's.
The V1-V2 I think need to be de-soldered to access all points.
crazygamelover
11-12-2003, 03:36
Just a suggestion , Could sell that one to someone and put the money towards a newer version. In the long run, you would be better off.
No I'm not going to sell it.
Ok now when you say desolder I wonder if that's for the 4 points on the bottom that look like they connect to a plug (sort of like the plug that connects from the power suply to the MB.). Has anyone here installed a Magic 3.1 in a version 2???
TylerDurden
11-12-2003, 10:45
Originally posted by budica
No I'm not going to sell it.
Well unfortunately your not gonna find many people that can help you with that particular version ps2.
Could you possibly let us know why you wouldnt want to sell it? Because selling it seems the more logical idea.
Tyler!
Stevey1976
11-12-2003, 15:02
Didn't the magic chip get a good rating in the newbie guide? 8/10 I believe, beaten only by the Messiah 2.
I've got a Magic 3, and have been happy with it, although I'm not sure what the exact model is e.g. 3.?
But it works.
I'm not going to sell it because it works just fine and I don't have enough money to buy a new one. No more talk of selling!
TylerDurden
11-12-2003, 17:10
Hey bud, you know if you sold it on ebay you could get almost the same price as a new one.
Ease up on the attitude, we are trying to help you here. If you cant adjust yourself Ill do it for you.
Tyler!
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to give attitude. I'm just getting frustrated because I'm not getting the help I'm looking for. I'm happy to have the input, really. I just wish there was one person out there that has done the magic 3 install on a version 2 just to give me the last little bit of help I need. To tell you the truth it's a bit of a pride thing as well. I've never done any soldering before and for me to get this far is quite good. Now I just want to finish it.
TylerDurden
11-12-2003, 17:58
Im sure you could derive the same amount of pride installing your chip in a newer ps2. But I guess since youll probably wind up with a v9 or v10 and wont be able to use your chip. I understand where your comming from.
Why is it exaclty that you cant get your wire to the other side of the board? You think longer wire would help?
Tyler!
LOL, no no no, that's not it. I can't get to the other side of the board. The motherboard is attached to another board but I'm not too sure how. There is a clip and some sort of power plug that are attached between the two and I can get the clip open but not the plug. You can see where the plugs are soldered onto the motherboard so I'm wondering if I have to desolder those to get it apart so I can get to the back of it.
crazygamelover
12-12-2003, 00:08
I too, can understand your point of view about personal pride.
Do you have a digital camera? The v2 is pretty old.
Maybe with a pic, we could help a little better rather than give alternative solutions like selling.
Might cut down of some of the frustration if we knew exactly what you got going on there.
Snoopy007
12-12-2003, 06:52
try taking a look at the diagrams on the following site.
www.duomodchip.com
might be of some use to you. ie since you can't get to the other side of the board.
Besides point "s" is only really necesary for psx games I think. So if you don't mind psx games, I don;t think it matters.
Dustpuppy
12-12-2003, 08:33
EDIT: Sorry, the pics I said something about couldn't be found anymore.
Sorry..... :(
Cant post pictures worth a crap on this forum but if you click on this link and scroll down you will see the alt point for S...Good luck.
http://chipzone.com/installation/playstation2/magic3/V2/page1.cfm
Ok that pic was a huge help. I was able to get the last connection done. Now I have another problem. When I put every thing back together and tried it out I get the sound of the system starting up on the tv but I'm getting no video. any ideas?
crazygamelover
12-12-2003, 20:08
double check the solder points and see if you may have a bridge of solder causing it.
Dang after all that work. Ok, I'll go through and check all the connections.
TylerDurden
12-12-2003, 21:16
Originally posted by budica
Dang after all that work. Ok, I'll go through and check all the connections.
Yes but imagine how pround youll be when you get it working. ;) :p
Tyler!
So far no luck. I'm not even getting sound now. I'll have to pull them all off and try again in the morning.
Ok, here is the latest. I was able to get the dang thing working again, minus the chip. I went to my local eb and bought a used ps2 (i took a look and it's a version 7). I came home packed up the old one and brought it back to get a refund. The dumb ass didn't even check the thing. So I now have a version 7 and I'm going to try modding it right now. any advice on v7 modding??
Well the v7 is a better system but not for the Magic 3.1. It won't be able to play all games such as Splinter Cell, Max Payne, Freedom Fighters, and True Crimes Streets of LA. I would recommend selling your Magic 3.1 and buying a Duo. It will play everything and has only 17 wires to be soldered. Only $19.99 + free shipping from www.modchips.cc
crazygamelover
14-12-2003, 02:35
I concur with Bighap, The Duo chip is an excellent choice and you wont regret swapping that ole v2 for the v7.
Win, Win situation now.:)
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