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Cyber Akuma
11-09-2003, 00:48
I was scanning a very recent 4 cd game woth CLONEY XXL, and CDs 2 and 3 were listed as having Dummy File protection. I read the FAQ at Cd Media world but it said that basically this can be overcome with a 80 minute CDR. I dont understand why somebody would use something like that in a new game since I havent even seen a 74 min blank cd for sale for years. Is there some other Dummy File trick companies use now as cd protections?

Mainly I want to know how to burn a working backup, the fact that I can bypass the cd protection if I just use a 80 min cd on a new and popular game released by a very wealthy company seems too good to be true.

ByteMare
11-09-2003, 01:39
The dummy files are often (but not always) combined with some other protection. The trouble may occur when you try to remaster your copy, i.e adding a NoCD/crack and copy the files to harddrive.
You may end up with files over 2 GB which may be hard to fit on a 80 min CD....of course, this can be "dealt with" and the trick is pretty lame, but it can be annoying.:D

GLH
11-09-2003, 06:48
NovaLogic often (always?) use the Dummy-File-Protection in the Delta Force Games. Also in Comanche 4.

The last Delta Force (Black Hawk Down) was combined with Securom New 4.8 .

Viracocha
11-09-2003, 07:04
I found Delta Force BHD easy to copy with CloneCd on a 700Mb CD-R.

Cyber Akuma
11-09-2003, 12:54
Is there a way to detect what other protections (if any) are used? Cloney XXL only says Dummy Files.

Viracocha
11-09-2003, 23:56
Try protection ID from cdkiller. Go here (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=45299)

ByteMare
12-09-2003, 01:13
Originally posted by GLH
NovaLogic often (always?) use the Dummy-File-Protection in the Delta Force Games. Also in Comanche 4.

The last Delta Force (Black Hawk Down) was combined with Securom New 4.8 .

Novalogics attempt is pretty useless, you get the correct sizes AND the necessary files if you install the game. However, they like to mess the cd-check...you can often start the game with a remastered copy, but Single player or hosting multiplayer is disabled...

Cyber Akuma
12-09-2003, 10:59
This is from Squaresoft, its Final Fantasy XI

I just want to make a backup since if the original disks break I would have to import another from japan

I dont want to just burn ISO images, I want to burn the actual disks

Cyber Akuma
15-09-2003, 00:51
Anyone Else?