Hi guys pleez tell me wat is MAGIC 4 and it is a clone of which chip

[PS2]

Pleez guys answer my questions
Thank u

[Headly]

Magic 4 is a clone of the Magic 3.1. I have heard that these chips work fairly well compared to the actual Magic series, which are not all that good to begin with. I have also seen a chip called NH3 sold as Magic 4 or 4.1

[PS2]

Thanks for replying
But r u sure its a clone of magic 3.1
Is it worth getting this chip for 40$ inclluding soldering
But when i asked a person that can this modchip be switched OFF to play online he said he didnot know
And in many sites i hav heard that they say its a clone of MAGIC 3.0
So please tell me wat r ur views about getting this chip
And r u sure its a clone of magic 3.1
Thank u

[Jay boy]

The NH3 in my opinion beats the magic 3, it can play the games it can't perfectly. I have not yet encountered a problem with it unless you note that my ps2 is broken.

[Headly]

It is really hard to say what the Magic 4 is. There are so many magic clones out. Some I have heard very good things about and some I have heard don't really work at all. You really never know what you are going to get. Even if you order from a site that says they are selling you a real Magic 3/3.1 I would say that 1 out of 3 times they will send you a clone. This and there poor performance are why most people, here at least, stay away from Magic chips.

[PS2]

hi guys
Thanks for replying
But the person who is giving me the chip is giving me gurantee till my console lives
He claims that everything works GTA vIce city , jef dam vendettaa etc
i ma getting it for 40$ including shiping
So tell me should i go for it or not
Thank u

[mach7]

Get a Messiah 2, make sure it's authentic. :)

[Headly]

I know that Magic 3 does not play GTA series well at all, not sure if this was fixed in the 3.1 version. $40 seems to be way to good of a deal. Normally a magic is $35-$40, installation $40-$60, and shipping is just over $10 each way. If you are getting all this for $40 then I would bet there is a rip off somewhere that you will be very unhappy about.

[PS2]

Hi guys
But the man is giving me gurantee for ever
He told me that it is a good chip
I was earlier also going for M2p but the problem arises
If i get the chip and they donot install it properly my whole money would be gone and i would be in a great loss
That is y i am prfering to go for this chip
And also about customs
In india they charge on everything including a tofee
If i get a modchip from outside INDIA i would hav to pay around 200% price of he chip
So tell me should i buy MAGIC 4 after seeing my problems
Thank u for ur informative replies

[Jay boy]

If it's an NH3, get it, it's really a nice chip but I think the apple is still better. But it can play Splinter cell flawlessly and every other game magics have prob's with.

[Headly]

I am not so worried about the chip you get. I personally would never send my system to someone who was offering all this for that extremely low of a price. This magic 4 would probably be about the worst chip you could get, considering it is a clone of an already crappy chip. To me the deal seems to good to be real. I would worry that if I sent it to him he would keep the PS2 and $40 and I would never see him again. We cannot tell you would you should do, especially since you are India and I have no clue how things work over there. Only suggest our own opinions and let you draw your own conclusions.

[PS2]

hi guys
First thging i want to mention is that the person is going to come to my house to install it
He says that the chip is fine
And let me tell u that the labour in INDIa is way to cheap
The person is telling me that it would only take 14$ for soldering and rest for the chip
He also told that if i want to get a chip installed i will hav to pay just 14$ for it
That person also has Messiah 1
So wat do u say in between messiah 1 or magic 4
Which should i get

[Headly]

That does clarify a little. I have done seceral install s for close friends for $15 and the total after chip for the is like $60 for a non clone. As far as Messiah 1 compaered to Magic 4 no way to really tell. The magic 4 is a clone that we know for sure. How well it works depends on which clone it is. The Messiah 1 is also most likely a clone also. If it is a clone it probably behaves more like a magic chip than a messiah.Seeing how you are not willing to blow a lot of money to get a real chip into the conutry you will have to make do with either one. Neither will perform perfectly but if you are lucky it will boot your games. When it comes down to it you are just going to have to trust the guys opinion. If you want to see just how many Magic fakes are out there you can go here (http://www.modchip.ca/install/ps2/magic/magicfakes.php) to check it out. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but it is hard telling how they will perform without knowing exactly what they are.

[PS2]

Ya i think u r correct i am likely not spending much cause i was screwed for 80$ by these people those who r selling magic 4
They gave me ar2 v2 + SBOX (external chip) for 80$ and also changed my motherboard from v7to v5/v6 cause ar2 v2 doesnot support V7
No i am not going to take their opinion cause i think they donot know anything about any modchip except magic 4
I think i know better about modchips as they do
My main problem arises that if at all i get a modchip from abroad and tell these people to install
If they donpot install it properly the first thing they would tell is that modchip is spoiled and doesnot work if also they made a mistake during installation
Cause i think they would npt be able to install the chip as they r no professionals
So last question
Should i get a chip from outside and give them the chip to install
Shoould i give them the M2P to install
Pleez answer my last question
Thank u
Been of great help

[Headly]

If they could install a magic chip properly then they could also install a Messiah 2 chip properly. There is only 2 wires that are different. W is in a different place for Magic and the power is a different voltage than on Messiah chips. You would be much better off getting a Messiah 2 that you knew was the real deal than a Magic 4 or Messiah1. My next question would be why would you have to pay around 200% of the original price of the chip? Is there some kind of heavy tax? Depending on the situation it could easily be gotten around by sending the chip inside of something else.

[PS2]

So u r telling me that the people would be able to install the chip properly if i give them the diagram
R u sure that they would be able to install it properly
Just final question and i would be getting a messiah 2 pro

[PS2]

And also u dont know about customs in INDia
They charge on everything
Man they all r stupid people
My father imported a ice crusher machine SNOWIE hope u would be knowing it
The price of the machine was about 1500$ and he had o pay around 700$ as customs on it
Man the only way i can be saved is that the person should reduce the price when he sends the chip to india
He should put the price around 5$
Hai buddy do u know a good site to order from
Once again r u sure those people installing magic 4 would be able to install M2p and not destroy my PS2
Would it be easy for them to install M2p
ThanK u

[bighap]

If they can install a magic 4 they can install a messiah 2 no problem. Like Headly said, it is almost exactly the same thing.

[Headly]

So from what you said before if you paid $45 for a Messiah chip to get it into India it would cost you a total of $90. What I am suggesting was originally brought up in the Xbox forum. A guy was in Suadi Arabia and could not get an Xbox chip. It was proposed that he have someone put a chip inside a walkman or something and send that to him to disguise what it was. Same could work for you. Pay someone $45 for the chip and like $5 for a cheap walkman and have them send that. I would think that they wouldn't tax a cheap cassette player as much as a messiah chip.

[PS2]

Hai man it was a great idea
Could u give me his id or the name of the person livng in saudi arabia so that i can contact him
I will just ask him about it
Thanks for ur help guys
I really appreciate it
Its the best forums with good buddies

[Headly]

You can read the entire thread here (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49804) From that thread you can get in contact with anyone who posted. I am unsure what they eventually did. If this is what you decide to try there are a few people around this forum who may give you a hand.

[PS2]

Ya thanks a lot
But think man if the modchip gets caught
It would really cause problem for me
My father told that if the person reduces the price of the chip in the bill( i will pay the original price of the chip but something else written on the bill) to something say 5 to 10$ then i would hav to pay little less custom
But one thing is there if the custom people try to get its original price then surely i would not get the chip
So wat do u say should i tell the person to reduce the price of the chip in the bill

[Headly]

That is also a very good idea. I am sure you could get someone to do it for you. If any question arise then you could just say that you had already received one and damaged it during the install so you talked to the supplier and he cut you a deal on this one. Check your PM!

[PS2]

I also personally think there is no problem in getting this chip
Ya ur idea is aslo good
That iwould tell him that earlier modchip was damaged and the person is replacing it
Could u suggest me as ssite which will do this for me