Ikaruga and Dj4

[ushioetora]

Dear Megalexxx or anybody can help me, excuse my English I write from Italy, so... ;)
I read a lot of faq about Dj4 setting to burn Dc cdi.
But there isn't a similar idea.
Everybody write different method, so I go crazy!
Please I need a complete setting method working.
I need to know if I need to select overburn option or cd+g or Raw or Mode 1 or 2, bytes and so......PLEASE
A second question is about Ikaruga, I tried to burn cdi file in many mode, but everytime game block in the blank sega logo.
Why?
I use a Dc pal with Rf unit.
I don't know if is a jap or pal version(50 or 60)?
The only thing that I know is an about autobooting game.
I try to open image with cdmage but Pc go crazy?????
Help me please.
Hello from Italy.
Thanks.

[Megalexxx]

You need a patch for Ikaruga.
Try PAL Patcher 1.1 ("PAL Protection 2").

[ushioetora]

Thanks Megalexxx.
I try your Pal Patcher, but I the faq write in the same page don't tell how I can do with the various patch.
I think that depend by my bad information about dc copy.
I can copy a Ps or Ps2 or Xbox game, but with Dc I'm weak.....
So please tell me more....
When I tried Pal Patcher, after select the cdi file(autoboot) and after select serch,
apper in the box "Pal protection 2"
After I select patch and the second time that i select serch apper "Pal protection 2 patched"
What mean exactly?
I did something wrong.....because I need to rest with "Pal protection 2".
Or is it right "pal protection 2 patched"?
After this I need to know if to start game (jap or Us) in my dc pal I need to select 50 to 60, or 60 t0 50.
Wath frequency is coorect?
My Tv is 100Hz and today I had buy a rgb scart cable but games don't start!
****
I can operate Ps2 like install messiah or Magic but dream cast it's new for me, excuse.
Help me Master.
Thanks

[ushioetora]

Megalexxx, I forget to tell you one thing.
I patched the ikaruga file with your Pal Patcher "Pal 2 protection"
but after I burn it with Dj4, it's don't work.
It's block at the same place...I'll send you the image.
Now I use Rgb cable and I try a 50hz tv.
I try to burn sonik2 and PuzzlFigh2X but game still block the same place!
Utopia boot, 1.1 and 1.2 version insted work!
But I don't have any non self booting file, so I can't use them.
I read something to remove echelon self booting, like your Ip program but nothing change in the game.
Because after burning the game rest self booting.
I read in this forum about your consideration, that maybe not important change 1_....bin.
But I don't understand why my dc pal still block in sega logo.
Help me, before I burn 10000000000 cd....
Thanks

[ushioetora]

Sorry here the image where my games block!

[Tsubaru]

I burned my image of Ikaruga, in a 790Mb CD, because the image was 717Mb.
I didn't change any of the settings in DJ 3, only selected overburn.

[ushioetora]

Dear Tsubaru my cdi image of ikaruga is 677MB, so I try to burn of normal 700MB cd, but it's strange tath Sonik and Puzz have the same problem.
So I think that is something wrong in dj setting or my cd-rom Waitec Megalus don't supprot something?
I see that Dj write first the 2 music tracks and after the data track.
Same method for Nero.
I tried also with PIONEER 105, but same problem with blank seg logo.
I'm go crazy, do you think because my system is on IDE and no Scsi.
It's strange, but I don't have any idea.........
But no one in this forum had in past the same problem?
Other idea please......
Thanks to all

[djgarf]

try using alcohol 120% to burn diskjuggler images!!

[ushioetora]

Thanks, but is there a good reason to try alchol120 instead Dj?
or is an attemp?
What mean screen like jpg in attach?
Scart problem, 50 or 60hz problem or burning software error?
I see that a zip file of nrg game are very little.
Please some one can post me one nrg selfbooting file that certain works on dc pal.
Please is an idea.
here's my mail:
[email protected]
someone can help me with others idea or a solution.
Ciao

[Kinel996]

I had problems burning Ikaruga with DJ4 also, so I tried using CDI2NERO, and burnt it first time! I think there are compatibility problems with DJ4 and some burners, and I thnk I must be unlucky enough to have one that DJ4 doesn't like!

DJ3 was far more reliable!:confused:

It's not just Ikaruga that DJ4 had problems with either!:mad:

[vivinlive]

hi! I have a little (stupid) question about burning Ikaruga... in fact I've got no problem in the burning process but I can't make the game work... when I put the CD, the Dreamcast acts like if it was a music CD... I'm certainly doing something wrong with DJ4 :'( but what? or maybe, my .cdi has a problem... I really don't know (and I'm not brilliant, I know : / )... can somebody help me, please??

[ushioetora]

I tried nero after first time Dj4 back up go wrong but problem still the same, so I think my Dc pal don't read cd with audio first and data second?Is it possible?

Second answer about ikaruga start in audio mode on Dc.
I think that there is an error in your image or is non selfboot disk so you need Utopia boot disk.

Oh yes I'm studing Dc world every second in these days.
But I had SAME PROBLEMMMMMMMMMMM......

Others idea for my problem?

Ciao

[Megalexxx]

Ushioetora : you're right. Some newer DC are "protected" and don't read audio/data format. To be sure, you might try to burn & boot Utopia boot disc. It's an audio/data CD...

[Kinel996]

In the past I`ve burnt a couple of images that apear to be audio CD's on my DC, and using the Utopia boot disk made no difference! :(

I reckon the images were created with DJ4 and I was burning with DJ3, because on the rare occasion when I got DJ4 to work, the disks self-booted no probs! :confused:

I still reckon DJ4 sucks tho!

[vivinlive]

Second answer about ikaruga start in audio mode on Dc.
I think that there is an error in your image or is non selfboot disk so you need Utopia boot disk.
well, I've already tried with Utopia Boot Disk, so that's certainly my image which is wrooonnngggg :( too bad... thank you anyway!

[ushioetora]

Hy, everyone.
Today I mod my dc pal with 4 wires to try to change my situation, but nothing change!
I think my problem is about non mil-cd.....
I need to know a simple method to chande audio/data image to data/data image.
My image are all bootable and audio/data so I need a trick to test data/data.
Please.
Thanks

[Megalexxx]

Did you try to boot Utopia boot CD ?
You'll be fixed !

Otherwise, you'll have to use Bin2Boot method to make data/data selfboot games. It's quite easy to do.

[djgarf]

Originally posted by ushioetora
I tried nero after first time Dj4 back up go wrong but problem still the same, so I think my Dc pal don't read cd with audio first and data second?Is it possible?

Second answer about ikaruga start in audio mode on Dc.
I think that there is an error in your image or is non selfboot disk so you need Utopia boot disk.

Oh yes I'm studing Dc world every second in these days.
But I had SAME PROBLEMMMMMMMMMMM......

Others idea for my problem?

Ciao

from what i have read all pal dreamcast's seem compitable with the audio/data mode it seems as though they only altered the ntsc dreamcast's!!

[ushioetora]

Hy Mega, now my last test!
Finally, my friend give me old Dc.
And now the surprise, every cd/r go fine!!!!
Ok now I'm "INKAZZATO" in english sounds like furious!
I try utopia boot cd on my dc and go fine.
But I think that utopia is not audio/data but data/data.
I try utopia disk on my dc with only game without auto boot(Re c.v.)and it's go fine!
Now at finally I know problem.
If I can remove self boot from my cd i can play with my dc!
But faq about non mil-cd it's wrong.
Now I try to explain.
CDI file NRG file in share are everyone autoboot, but faq try to explain to create an autoboot game(data/data) from a non autoboot game(need utopia).
So most passages are wrong.
I try to create iso9660 with cdrwin and after burn with nero, but game seems go but after dc return at menu of choise!
I try to use on iso9660 file bin2boot. But don't work. I think because there in the file there's autoboot.
Cdrip0.6 don't work in 90% of autoboot file. it tells that file is broken.....and stop.
Often Isobuster don't open iso
the same problem with cdmage that crash PC!!!!(with memory manager installed!!!!!
SO please Megalexxx tell me something.
In 3 days I study the entire dc sector but everything seems to go differently.
I think that faq are too old for this time.
Please tell me if I'm going fine and if my study are Ok.
And last give me a simple but real simple method to remove autoboot, from cdi file that just had.
Thanks for time you dedicated to me.
Thanks to all.

[Megalexxx]

_ I think the FAQ telling how to create selfboot games from nonboot games is good
_ CDMage locks when your CDI image is too recent (it doesn't support latest versions of DiskJuggler). In that case, you must use CDIRip and IsoFix.
_ I think tutorials to create nonboot games from selfboot games (even if there's no need to), or to "convert" audio/data CD to data/data CD have already been written. Anyway :

_ to remove selfboot (I didn't try that) :
1) copy all files from your burnt CD to a directory (or extract them with any tool you want)
2) extract ip.bin from your selfboot CD using my tool (IPExtractor)
3) look for every files containing "CD001" and binhack them to 0 (i.e. "binhack xxx.bin 0").
4) burn the whole files to a CD as data, and finalize session

_ to "convert" audio/data to data/data :
1) copy all files from your burnt CD to a directory (or extract them with any tool you want)
2) extract ip.bin from your selfboot CD using my tool (IPExtractor)
3) look for every files containing "CD001" and binhack them to 0 (i.e. "binhack xxx.bin 0").
4) use CDRWin to build an ISO9660 image (uncheck "preserve full pathname" and "include archive files only", check "include idden files", "long filenames", "include system files" and
"recurse subdirectories")
5) use Bin2Boot on the resulting image

This should work for games without CDDA.
Can someone confirm ?