View Full Version : Pioneer A05 reads/writes in raw mode
Hull_chipper
14-01-2003, 01:22
Yes peeps, tis true, I used it to back-up Harry Potter last night:)
Don't you love the A05......:)
Hull_chipper
14-01-2003, 07:36
Yep I wasted months waiting for a Sony! I just got a Pioneer 117 to go with it which will make the perfect duplicator. Alas tis bye bye to my cd duplicator now (1-7 32x) PM me if anybody is interested.
Hull_chipper
14-01-2003, 10:20
Change of plan - the 117 won't read in raw mode (bugga). Does anybody know a dvd-rom which does?
platinum
14-01-2003, 11:59
does this mean the A05 is good for writing CD based games too? i was thinking of geting one of them $30 52x lite-on's for doing CD's but if the A05 is just as good i wont have to buy it.
Yes... It will.....
Although if I were you, I would spend the $30 bucks and get a seperate drive.... It will save the additional wear and tear on your expensive A05 and only cost you 30 bucks more.... ALOT better wearing out a 30 dollar cd burner than wearing out a 200-300 dollar dvd burner.....
Just my opinion...:)
platinum
14-01-2003, 12:11
thats true but really how many CD based games are there? i dont think there are many ( that are any good anyway :p )
so this means it is 100% compatible with clone cd?
Originally posted by Hull_chipper
Change of plan - the 117 won't read in raw mode (bugga). Does anybody know a dvd-rom which does?
Try finding a Toshiba dvd-rom. They are the best and are 100% clone cd compatable meaning they read all sub channel data for copying cd games although the Pioneer dvd-r writers will not write RAW-DAO-96.
I use a toshiba dvd rom with my pioneer A03 for dvd-r burning, for cd games i use a 100% clonecd compatable sony cdrw. The pioneer burners are usless for copy protected cd games.
Originally posted by platinum
does this mean the A05 is good for writing CD based games too? i was thinking of geting one of them $30 52x lite-on's for doing CD's but if the A05 is just as good i wont have to buy it. It may read in RAW and copy some cd games but it doesn't read RAW-DAO-96 which is required to make 1:1 backups.
Hull_chipper
14-01-2003, 17:50
Originally posted by Warlock
The pioneer burners are usless for copy protected cd games.
Sorry m8 - I have the 105 & it works perfectly with clone! Tried & tested!
Hull_chipper
14-01-2003, 17:55
Well, I've copied Harry Potter (chamber of secrets) and Star Wars racer 'revenge' @ 12x using datasafe media on my 105.
Yes clone cd will recognize the drive and will copy some games but it will not copy RAW dao 96.
Hull, see if the A05 will allow you to read sub channel data.
Well according to the new clonecd 4.1.01 my A03 will read and write sub channel data but i know for a FACT that it dont support this. I will do a little research on this and see if it is something that is software corrected.
Hull_chipper
14-01-2003, 18:15
Ok m8 - wot title will I find that needs RAW dao 96. I didn't like V4 so I'm back with 3.3.4.1
Open clone cd, select the A05 as the reader, you should see this in the box on the right side of the screen.
Device Capabilities:
Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information!
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: DVD-RW DVR-103
Revision: 1.90
Can read CD-R Discs: Yes
Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes
Can read DVD Discs: Yes
Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes
Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes
Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes
Can write CD-R Discs: Yes
Can write CD-RW Discs: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: No
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports Buffer Underrun Protection: No
It should say yes on everything like the sony below.
Device Capabilities:
Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information!
Manufacturer: SONY
Product: CD-RW CRX175E2
Revision: S002
Can read CD-R Discs: Yes
Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes
Can read DVD Discs: No
Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes
Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes
Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes
Can write CD-R Discs: Yes
Can write CD-RW Discs: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports writing of CD+G RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports Buffer Underrun Protection: Yes
If not it isnt 100% compatable.
Hull_chipper
15-01-2003, 04:33
I did post this on ps2newz but here it is again.
Device Capabilities:
Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information!
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: DVD-RW DVR-105
Revision: 1.00
Can read CD-R Discs: Yes
Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes
Can read DVD Discs: Yes
Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes
Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes
Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes
Can write CD-R Discs: Yes
Can write CD-RW Discs: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports writing of CD+G RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports Buffer Underrun Protection: Yes
My A05 appears to be 100% compatible with Clone CD also....
I have e-mailed Pioneer to find out for sure.... I will post there e-mail when (and if) they reply....
dust2dust
15-01-2003, 07:24
pioneer a04 will write subs but only 16 (not 96)
the way to check the a05 is to backup a ps1 game thats known to have protection
Dust.... Do you know of a certain game to try with....I only have a few PS1 games....
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Wheel Of Fortune (not mine.. Its the wifes :) )
Tekken 2
Tekken 3
I've got others, but I can't remember what they are since I'm at work right now....
If you know that any of these have the protection, I will try to copy them when I get home...
dust2dust
15-01-2003, 08:32
are the games uk usa jap it makes difference
http://www.megagames.com/psx/psx_protected_games.shtml
now u look at only list of protected games i know of
dust2dust
15-01-2003, 08:52
Originally posted by Hull_chipper
I did post this on ps2newz but here it is again.
Device Capabilities:
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: Yes
id say its dao 96 :)
Hull_chipper
15-01-2003, 13:23
Originally posted by dust2dust
are the games uk usa jap it makes difference
http://www.megagames.com/psx/psx_protected_games.shtml
now u look at only list of protected games i know of
OK, I've just written medievil2 (it's on the above list) using clonecd on my 105. Works perfectly on a Magic3 modded Pal V7, I can't vouch for messiah2 tho! (Tis a joke, honest lol)
Are we convinced now? :D
charlie_ps2
15-01-2003, 13:48
Originally posted by Hull_chipper
OK, I've just written medievil2 (it's on the above list) using clonecd on my 105. Works perfectly on a Magic3 modded Pal V7, I can't vouch for messiah2 tho! (Tis a joke, honest lol)
Are we convinced now? :D
If you can download CLONYXL and put medievil2 through the program. Then publish the paramaters for CloneCD that it comes up with. If those parameters include Read sub-channel data, then the A05 supports DAO-RAW+96. It's the RAW+96 that matters as the subchannel data which contains the encryption is held in the 96 bytes beyond the 2352 byte RAW limit.
Then we can lay this to rest and proclaim A05 to be fully CloneCD compatible.
Hull_chipper
15-01-2003, 13:58
Jeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzus Charlie!!!! & when you've done that go help...................
I've come across ur sort b4 m8! ;)
Originally posted by Hull_chipper
I did post this on ps2newz but here it is again.
Device Capabilities:
Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information!
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: DVD-RW DVR-105
Revision: 1.00
Can read CD-R Discs: Yes
Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes
Can read DVD Discs: Yes
Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes
Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes
Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes
Can write CD-R Discs: Yes
Can write CD-RW Discs: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports writing of CD+G RAW-DAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports Buffer Underrun Protection: Yes
I stand corrected Craig :) You are right, as you can see from my post my burner doesnt support RAW-DAO, Yours does and IS 100% compatable. Pioneer must have corrected this with the A05 which is great for all A05 owners.
LOL, Now, can the same be said for the Sony dvd-r +r writer :D
Hull_chipper
15-01-2003, 14:20
Originally posted by charlie_ps2
If you can download CLONYXL and put medievil2 through the program. Then publish the paramaters for CloneCD that it comes up with. If those parameters include Read sub-channel data, then the A05 supports DAO-RAW+96. It's the RAW+96 that matters as the subchannel data which contains the encryption is held in the 96 bytes beyond the 2352 byte RAW limit.
Then we can lay this to rest and proclaim A05 to be fully CloneCD compatible.
Ok done all that m8. I rember why I didn't like clonyxl, TIS BLADDY JARMAN MUN!!!!
Anyway we have
Reader settings
PSX/Libcrybt
Both read subchannel data from auto & data tracks are ticked
Writer settings
Don't repair subchannel data 'ticked'
Possible write modes
dao-raw 'ticked'
sao-raw 'ticked'
Now I can delete the hun!
Hull_chipper
15-01-2003, 14:25
Originally posted by Warlock
I stand corrected Craig :) You are right
OMG - tis normally @ least April before I'm right :D
Originally posted by Hull_chipper
OMG - tis normally @ least April before I'm right :D
:D :D :D
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