Strange isn't it?

[mitsos79b]

Well here I was in an attempt to backup fifa2003. I saw that the protection is safedisk v2 with clony. I placed the appropriate settings into clonecd(4.2.0.2 version) and copied the first cd through an image just fine. The second cd was a pain in the ***. I repeated the process but at about 55 to 65% of the image making process, clonecd crashed. Itried it again, I tried other settings combinations, I tried setting the copy to be made on a "game cd" and on a "protected game cd" . Still the same. Just as I was ready to go online and ask help through a post here, I got an idea. I got nothing to lose if I do a simulation of an on the fly copy, something which I avoid doing since i've got both cdrom and cdr under one channel. Well what do you know???????It worked??????A plain old settings-free, protection cracking-free on the fly copy operation did the trick?

So I am asking....Does anyone know what happened to me here?

P.S. The newest version of clonecd (4202) has the option when selecting the cd type of putting, 'game cd" and "proetected game cd". What do you guys do?when do you put the first and when the second?And anything else you can think of about this please share it with the rest of the forum users through my post.

[RincewindTheWiz]

One thing is not very clear : did you only do the simulation, or did you really copy the cd on the fly when the simulation worked ? The simulation is very much like a real copy except the writing part, but not completely the same.

Oh, and with any modern buffer underrun protected cdwriter you can safely use the on the fly copy method with ANY speed. I'd advise 12 speed max, if only because when you do overload the one IDE channel, the buffer underrun protection will kick in so many times that it takes more time to do the copy than with 12 speed. However the copy will always be good (I have NEVER had a buffer underrun error in more than 500 written cd's).

As to your problem, it could very well be that there's a bug in Clonecd which crashed your writing to an image.

[mitsos79b]

Thanks for the reply Rince and let me clear some things up. I did the simulation with the written cd in one drive and a 12x max speed rewritable cd in the other. The simulation was a success so I did the on the fly process for real this time in the rewritable cd and that was a success as well. I did this in order to see if I will peoduce a working copy without burning many many many blank brand new cdrs. Anyway, seeing that (to my surprise) everything was fine I did an actual, no simulation, on the fly copy with an empty cdr and it worked, I had a working backup. Of course I nedd a nocd crack but that's trivial. I did the whole operation with 12x speed max. In the beginning because that's the speed the rewritable cd has as a max and then after seeing that it was ok, even though the cdr (Philips cd-r80 40x) supported a 40x speed , I did the operation again with 12x, with the following positive results. Looks like, Rince, from your post that I did well to put 12x,doesn't it?

P.S. I have a plextor 4012A
P.S.2 How do you guys place a folder with the game crack into the cd? I don't see that happening through an image(except if the source cd already has one inside). How do you put it afterwards?
P.S.3 Any comments on the clonecd option for "game cd", "protected game cd" ????

[RincewindTheWiz]

We generally use Nero to make compilation cd's. This means if we want to add a crack to a cd, we copy all files to the hard disk and determine in Nero which file goes where, add a crack or other extra files as needed and then write the cd itself. The compilation cd will allow you to detrmine exactly which files you write together, clonecd is only meant for the exact copying of cd's, something which cannot be done if you start moving files around. As for the "protected cd" and other profiles, have a look for yourself. You can edit each one of these profiles in clonecd and so see what options are enabled for each profile.