View Full Version : Picking a new modchip
Ok let me start off to say I have a v5 with a solderless modchip. I got it b/c it was easy to install, now I’m getting sick of swapping disks just to play my backups. I have now decided to install a no swap modchip now. I would like to know witch is the best one to go with and witch one has the least probs with backups.
Also where can I find a step by step guide on how to get to the main board? When I installed my other modchip, it didn’t look like the main board was easy to get to.
knotsville
05-12-2002, 01:11
people who say Magic3 are fools, Messiah2 all the way...
Charlie_PS2 or Dust2Dust can hook you up (very reliable and helpful chaps)
Canuck77
05-12-2002, 05:31
For what its worth, I don't agree.
1) The Magic3 (or Apple2) will both play all games on the market right now. (The mods on this forum themselves did a review of them and gave them 100%). The Messiah2 has a couple of things that the Magic3 and Apple2 don't have, including being able to boot using any button (rather than having to use the 'reset' button on the other 2 chips) and a deactivation mode (which I think the A2 and M3 have anyway). But those are - in my opinion - very minor.
2) The mods here are biased towards the Messiah2 for a couple of reasons (both financial (see the referrals to Charlie_PS2 their services basically everywhere on this forum) and moral (since the M2 arguably came up with most innovations found in Magic3 and A2 chips)). For that reason, you'll see a lot more Messiah2 info than the others.
3) Price. You can - literally - buy 2 Magic3 or Apple2 chips for the cost of the Messiah2 in some places. To me, that's gouging, and it's only helped out by people who are making a higher profit on a more expensive chip than a lower one.
I installed 2 Apple2 mods myself and have them running just fine. They play my games - I don't need to patch, do special copy techniques, nothing. So why would I spend $30 extra per chip? I've got a buddy with the Magic3, and he's in the same boat - everything works fine.
xboxps3gba
05-12-2002, 07:49
well u got a point but 30$ can be alot when u need it but messiah is a better chip than magic
Canuck77
05-12-2002, 08:56
Bottom line - it plays all the games, the boot procedure really isn't that different, installation is basically the same - at like half the cost.
50/10 - you pay 50% extra for something that's 10% better. If you've got the 50% extra kicking around, you won't regret it. Me, I'd rather buy an extra 50 CDRs. ;)
Just wondering where you are buying a Magic 3 for half of what the Messiah 2 cost? :confused:
The Messiah 2 is $68.00 and I haven't seen a Magic 3 for $34.00..
(Sorry had $38.00 originally)
I've got 2 more PS2's coming, so I may get a Magic 3 for testing alongside with my Messiah 2.....
I just personally like the Messiah line better....
Canuck77
05-12-2002, 10:28
Apple2 is $39 at extreme-mods.com. Magic3 is $43 at ps2cd.com.
Okay, not HALF, but pretty damned close. ;)
xboxps3gba
05-12-2002, 10:30
you can get the magic 2 w/ clip for 60 so that a better deal than messiah 2 cuz it makes it only 8 wires
Originally posted by Canuck77
Apple2 is $39 at extreme-mods.com. Magic3 is $43 at ps2cd.com.
Okay, not HALF, but pretty damned close. ;)
Not a bad deal.... Although you still have to pay $6.00 shipping, BUT $49.00 is still not bad for the Magic 3....
I'm curious about the Apple2.... I haven't seen any reports on it.... You got anymore info on it.....So I could update my boot procedures post (or does it boot the same as the original apple)
Originally posted by xboxps3gba
you can get the magic 2 w/ clip for 60 so that a better deal than messiah 2 cuz it makes it only 8 wires
Yeah... Its $8.00 cheaper and easier to install, but it still has its problems with Gameshark and DVD-9.....AND there are So MANY CLONES, that you never know which you may get.....
They call it an Apple Mini. If its a great chip then why are they selling it for $10 less than the Apple? They don't specify anything on it different than the original Apple except that it is universal. Don't buy anything new until more is known about it.
evolutionmods.com has v.7 magic2 for $25 and magic3 $39 and shipping is included.
p.s. xboxps3gba where can i get that chip plus clip for $60?
Canuck77
05-12-2002, 11:39
The Apple mini is a clone of the Magic3, basically. So, the boot procedures will be the same.
Why's it cheaper? Well, because it's a clone. :) There are a few people selling those now - moddedunits.com, extreme-mods, etc, etc. Again, they work just fine.
xboxps3gba
05-12-2002, 11:56
clones mess up alot
Have you tried one yourself Canuck or heard of anybody else having one?
Canuck77
05-12-2002, 12:08
I installed 2 Apple Mini chips myself and they're running just fine.
Sorry - I've been saying Apple2 in the forum, when I meant Apple Mini.
Do you know the boot procedures for it?
Canuck77
05-12-2002, 12:32
Originally posted by Canuck77
The Apple mini is a clone of the Magic3, basically. So, the boot procedures will be the same.
There's a pinned posting here (excellent work, by the way) that has all the boot procedures for all the chips.
Basically, it's the same as Magic 3 - the reset button for ps2, and holding the reset button for 2 seconds for ps1 and movies.
Originally posted by Canuck77
There's a pinned posting here (excellent work, by the way) that has all the boot procedures for all the chips.
Thanks for the kind words! :)
I'm still working on that post. I have a few more chips to add... Hopefully I will be able to update it this weekend....
BUT thanks again for the NICE words.....:D
Yes I was aware of BG's sticky just double checking to see if it was the same as the Magic 3.:)
Ok, thanks every one. Now can you tell me how to get to the PS2’s main board? I don’t have it in my hand but I would like to open and know how every thing comes apart and goes back together. Don’t wanta open it up then break a wire and not know what I did.
Okay, never mind disregard my last post. I got brave and decided to take my PS2 apart so I know what I was doing when the new modchip gets here.
Also, think I’m going to go with the Magic3 b/c I can also get I can get the little good that brings the wires to solder down to 7 instead of 22. Not 100% on my soldering skills on stiff this small.
Thanks again
rms2001
Canuck77
09-12-2002, 06:05
For what it's worth, people have reported some problems using clips in general (reliability of the contact points). Just be careful!
dust2dust
09-12-2002, 06:23
just to give u bit more info on magic 3
the newest bug reported major one at that if u ask me
games all boot some hang
people were blaming it on clones
this proven not to be true also occurs latest magic3
the likely reason is the design fault that means all magic3 will overheat eventually technical info taken from a qoute from guichi
even if its something else causing games to crash that means then theres another major bug
i not seen tested any m3 i dont want to really ;)
unless its free i try it in few units c how it performs but i sure i swap it back for the messiah2
:D :D :D :D :D
looks like messiah2 still rules for the forseeable future
hull chiper can u report on overheating,any been tested for overheating? if yes what timescales u talking about?
filippos
09-12-2002, 08:42
I guess all the research was good after all...
And i was thinking of getting a magic 3 for my v7. :eek:
Thank god i didnt:D Can't wait to get my new messiah 2:p
Thanx to dust and Charlie.;)
I wish no problems appear with the m2 ....
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