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rubber2k1
23-09-2002, 07:33
Thinking about getting rid of my PSX1 and get a PS2. Thought about just buying a used one or refurbed one. Are there any special model #'s to look for like in the PSX1? Also what is a good mod chip to get? I have about 40 cd-r games that i used on my psx1, those are playable on the ps2 with the modchip, right? Are the controllers swappable? Anything else i need to look or watch for? thanks for your help
I would rec. against buying a used PS2 (unless you know who you are buying from and the history or the machine..)
If you buy a new one you will probably get a V7... You want to try to get a V5 or above... The sticker on the back of the PS2 has a number that looks like this: SCPH-xxxxxxx try to get one with a R at the end of that number(but be careful, there are some V4's with a R)... The website I usually refer people too is currently down... Should be up later... I'll post the link later so you can see EXACTLY what I mean... It has all the info you will need as far as "what version the PS2 is that you are going to buy"
The best mod chips to get are the NO-SWAP chips like the Messiah, Magic 2, or Apple... They are more expensive to purchase and have installed BUT are worth EVERY PENNY....
Your CD-R backups of the PS1 games will work on your PS2... Also you can use PS1 controllers on your PS2...:cool:
Here is a reference chart for PS2 versions: This was posted in another forum by Charlie_PS2 (a moderator on this forum):cool:
Quick US/C PS2 Version Reference Chart
Acknowledgements to Crazycowpie and Stonegreg50
I ask you to contribute to the database by inputting the following details of your system to be found on the sticker at the rear of the PS2:
SCPH model number
Uxx - the first two digits of the Serial number
PTxx - the first two digits of the barcode number
Datecode 0x, 1x or 2x
# of screws in the upper rim of the Expansion bay (30001R)**
The name/version of any Messiah class modchip present
[AUS/EU/UK] PS2 PAL
30002/3/4 v1-3 = 10 Screws on base of PS2
30002/3/4 v4 = 8 Screws on base of PS2
30002R/3R/4R v4 = 8 Screws on base of PS2 & 2 screws in upper rim of expansion bay
30002R/3R/4R v5/v6 = 8 Screws on base of PS2 & 3 screws in upper rim of expansion bay
39002/3/4 v7 = 8 Screws on base of PS2 & 3 screws in upper rim of expansion bay
THIS INFORMATION IS NOT GUARANTEED & IS STILL BEING COMPILED. In particular we need to know the motherboard GH number for V4R Datecode 1C and all those listed below as having Messiah problems.
GH-003 15000
GH-003 18000 (piggy back BIOS 020)
GH-004 v1 (BIOS 020)
GH-005 v1
GH-006 v2
GH-006 v3 (Top BIOS non Gap)
GH-007 v3 (Gap BIOS 020)
GH-008 18000 (Top BIOS 010)
GH-010 v4/1B (No Gap BIOS 030)
GH-013 v4/1C (BIOS 030) [Not reliable info]
GH-014 v4 (BIOS 030 - some; which had BIOS 040?)
GH-015 v5 (BIOS 040)
GH-017 v7 (39002 BIOS 050)
GH-018 v7 (39003 BIOS 050)
GH-019 v7 (39001 BIOS 050)
[USA] PS2 NTSC
30001 v1-3 = 10 Screws on base of PS2
30001 v4 = 8 Screws on base of PS2
35001 v4 = 8 Screws on base of PS2 Serial # U5*** & U6***, Datecode 1B, 1C
30001R v4 = 8 Screws on base of PS2
30001R v5.x = 8 Screws on base of PS2 with three screws in top rim of expansion bay
39001 v7 = 8 screws on base of PS2
US Serial # & Barcode #
u1* w/ 10 screws = v1 (PT11*******) (Datecode 0C)
u0* w/ 10 screws = v2 (PT10*******) (Datecode 0D)
u2* w/ 10 screws = v3 (PT12*******)
u1* w/ 8 screws = v4 (PT11*******) (datecode 1C have Messiah problems)
u2* w/ 8 screws = v4 (PT12*******) (datecode 1C have Messiah problems)
u3* w/ 8 screws = v4 (PT13*******) (datecode 1D)
u4* w/ 8 screws = v4 (PT14*******) (datecode 1B)
u5* w/ 8 screws = v4 (PT15*******) (030 BIOS) Incl. Datecode 1C
u6* w/ 8 screws = v4 (PT16*******)
u0* w/ 8 screws = v4R (PT20*******) (datecode 1C) Some reports also of v5/u0/1C**
u1* w/ 8 screws = v4R (PT21*******) (datecode 1C) Some reports also of v5/u1/1C**
u2* w/ 8 screws = v5 (PT22*******) (datecode 1D & 2A)
u3* w/ 8 screws = v5 (PT23*******) (datecode 1D) Some reports also of v4R/u3/1D**
u4* w/ 8 screws = v6 (PT24*******) (datecode 2A)
u0* w/ 8 screws = v6 (PT30*******) (datecode 2B)
u4* w/ 8 screws = v7 (PT5x*******) (datecode 2B GH-017)
u5* w/ 8 screws = v7 (PT5x*******) (datecode 2B)
Date Code is on the US version serial sticker.
** A v5/v6 PS2 can be identified by looking inside the top rim of the Expansion Bay. If there are three screws, two flush (brass) and one recessed in a flange (silver) then it's a v5 or v6,
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rubber2k1
23-09-2002, 07:52
Its a refrubed one with a warranty. I will get the info when they respond back. thanks
rubber2k1
23-09-2002, 08:03
I noticed that consolesourceDOTcom sells several different versions for different models of the PS2 that dont need soldering, just plug N play basically.
version4 (http://www.consolesource.com/playstation2/p2-ns4-mod.htm)
version5-6 (http://www.consolesource.com/playstation2/p2-ace-key.htm)
Other ps2 modchips (http://www.consolesource.com/playstation2/modchips.htm)
Whats your thought on these? and what do you recommend on ANY modchip out there? thanks
TylerDurden
23-09-2002, 09:11
Very nice work BG!
Rubber2k1, I used to work with ConsoleSource and know that the plug and play modchips are at the bottom of the barrel. Get yourself a new ps2 and a good modchip and you will be all set from there on.
Look here for some notes on a couple of good chips FACTOIDS (http://fileforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37089)
Tyler!
psx_paul
23-09-2002, 09:23
If you definately want to mod it (with a decent chip) you might be better off financially purchasing a pre-modded machine. If you are in the UK Charlie/Dust or Andex are your main men.
Originally posted by rubber2k1
I noticed that consolesourceDOTcom sells several different versions for different models of the PS2 that dont need soldering, just plug N play basically.
version4 (http://www.consolesource.com/playstation2/p2-ns4-mod.htm)
version5-6 (http://www.consolesource.com/playstation2/p2-ace-key.htm)
Other ps2 modchips (http://www.consolesource.com/playstation2/modchips.htm)
Whats your thought on these? and what do you recommend on ANY modchip out there? thanks
My thought on the no-solder mods is they suck....(my opinion)
The ONLY good thing about them, is that some don't require soldering..... BUT you have to worry about patching games, swapping discs, and other headaches.... They are just too much trouble... And to use a no solder mod, you will have to buy a Gameshark 2, original high TOC dvd based game, and the chip.... When you start adding all of that up, the no solder mod is not much cheaper than getting a no swap chip....AND YOU STILL HAVE TO SWAP TO PLAY BACKUPS.....
When you get the version number of your PS2 then I will tell you which chip I would get.... (Although regardless, it will be the Messiah, Magic 2, or Apple):cool:
Oh yeah... One other thing.... If you look back through this forum.... You will see MANY, MANY, MANY, post like"HELP No-Solder mod":cool:
rubber2k1
23-09-2002, 12:56
One ps2 i am looking at is model30001R. So if i go one at walmart i really dont have change to choose which model/version i want. So what do i do?
If you get one at wal-mart you will most likely get a V7.... So you will be fine....
The 30001R you mentioned see which one it is.......
30001R v4 = 8 Screws on base of PS2
30001R v5.x = 8 Screws on base of PS2 with three screws in top rim of expansion bay
If its the V5 you should also be fine.....:cool:
rubber2k1
24-09-2002, 09:27
When i buy one of these mod chips i hope they included a detailed diagram of where to solder the 23 stinkin wires. I think i am decent solderer but messing with a $200 toy kinda scares me.
You have to be a very experienced soldier to do a 23 wire mod. The points are extremely close together. If you dont buy a premodified system send it to Bill at freedomlives.com to do the mod for you.
rubber2k1
24-09-2002, 10:27
I have done soldering on DSS satellite reciever circuit boards before. I just want to make sure i'm soldering the right wires on the right spot. I have a 15w soldering pencil and small solder for circuit baord stuff.
Images for a magic 2 install can be seen here (http://china-magic.com/installation.htm)
rubber2k1
24-09-2002, 11:27
I looked at the V7 diagram. Doesnt look too bad as long as all the wires are marked for each point. Have you done one of these soldering mods?
No I havn't. I bought a premoded system from lik-sang.com for $360. It came with a dvd remote and ps2 stand so its a pretty good deal if your not comfortable soldering your own chip. Several people on this board have done there own including charlie_ps2 . Id ask him about his experiences with moding ps2s.
psx_paul
24-09-2002, 14:18
Originally posted by bighap
No I havn't. I bought a premoded system from lik-sang.com for $360. It came with a dvd remote and ps2 stand so its a pretty good deal if your not comfortable soldering your own chip. Several people on this board have done there own including charlie_ps2 . Id ask him about his experiences with moding ps2s.
Bighap - would you recommend the Neo4 chip???:D :D :D
From what I've heard, its not too great of a chip. This is what charlie had to say about it:
NEO4.x Charlie's rating: 4/10
NEO4 was announced in July 2001 & delivered in December 2001. It has 44 wires! CD-R backups (other than EA games) require no swap - they boot directly. There are special swap procedures for EA CD-R & DVD-R games. Import originals do not boot with this mod.
All in all, for 44 wires of install heartache, this is a disappointing mod.
It's a crap mod, to many limitations for so many wires
Originally posted by psx_paul
Bighap - would you recommend the Neo4 chip???:D :D :D
NO! I wouldnt recomand this chip(my opinion).As Warlock say its too many wire and too many limitation.Compare with the other chip which is much easy to install and cheaper (I think) I would go 4 the other wont u?
Like people say more wire to install more mistake u r going to come accross.............
rubber2k1
25-09-2002, 07:11
Whats a good program utility to back up PS2 dvd games? I use CloneCD for my PSX games.
TylerDurden
25-09-2002, 09:13
Prassi Primo DVD or Stomp Record Now Max. Both are basically the same programs.
Tyler!
rubber2k1
27-09-2002, 07:16
I plan on getting a PS2 this weekend, I guess i will get one at Walmart. Since its a V7 which of the modchip is preferred? Messiah, apple, Magic ,etc. IS one really any better than the other? I just need one to boot my PSX copies, than PS2 cd-r copies and DVD-r copies.
Messiah will not work on a US V7...... Go ahead and get the Magic 2.... Its been out longer than the Apple....ALTHOUGH there are a few people on this forum with the Apple chip and they say it works great.....So there you have it..... :cool:
rubber2k1
27-09-2002, 20:28
I thought i read that the MAgic2 had problems booting psx copies? Have you heard that? What online stores do U recommend? The only ones i know of are consolesource and modchipDOTcom. I would like something around the US/Canada.
thanks
The only problems I have heard of about the Magic 2 playing PSX backups are related to the Magic 2 V7 with a PAL console:
- There is a restriction on the Magic 2 v7 applicable to PAL PS2s whereby it can only play PS1 games for the same region as the PS2. So a PAL v7 can only play PAL PS1 games (30002/3/4 are interchangeable in this regard).
As far as a store around the US.... I wouldn't worry too much... Just find a store your comfortable with... Most stores ship to the US anyways......:cool:
rubber2k1
29-09-2002, 20:32
Finally me a PS2. Got it from BestBuy since they'll thrown in a portable cd player with the purchase of a PS2. Its model - SCPH39001 with the serial staring at - FU.
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