View Full Version : Safedisk 2.80.010
DevTech2000
19-09-2002, 21:16
New version of SD on Divine Divinity 1.31 patch. Kudos to the person who breaks it. :confused:
Monty Burns
20-09-2002, 01:42
That's what I call good news!
A new sd2 version, Monty is not amused. :mad: :mad: :mad:
It is highly likely that it has already been cracked.
Just that you'll not see a public release of any cracking app. Unless of course Bools Eye stays up all night!
Hint...hint!!
Dr Apocalypse
20-09-2002, 03:40
I think I now see one reason why r!sc decided to pack it in, too many people on his case asking for the latest unwrapper :)
Poor old bools :( Give it up while you've still got your sanity :D
DrA.
bOOls eYe
20-09-2002, 04:03
LOL
i'll never give up cracking that thing... i just need some more debugging experience & stuff...
anyway, you can expect something in the near future ! ;)
Dr Apocalypse
20-09-2002, 12:39
Dedicated to the cause!
hope you don't lose too much sleep then :)
btw, is it possible to 'dump' an exe using your NoCD Loader and 'rebuild' it using Revirgin? I've not tried this as I get a bit lost reading the revirgin docs, but wondered if it was possible.
DrA.
bOOls eYe
21-09-2002, 00:38
afaik, Revirgin is a tool to rebuild the import functions of a SD protected file. but that's not the real problem in versions 2.60 and 2.70 (and 2.80 ?). cirkutz is right: the biggest problem there is the encryption of some small pieces of code (btw, that's why that vxd is installed !!).
and then there's another new feature: some "call" functions are encrypted (not the same as introduced in Safedisc 1.40.04 "R3", there the "call dword ptr" functions are messed up).
my source is reliable too :)
Dr Apocalypse
21-09-2002, 03:27
Thought it sounded a bit too easy :)
It's just that I noticed in a few Revirgin tuts Safedisc mentioned and some Fixed EXE's that are Safedisc protected contain new sections in the file called 'newidata', I assume a new rebuilt Import Table, but obviously they been manually traced, decrypted, dumped and merged back, kinda complicated for newbies :D
Thanks for explaining the reasons why it can't be done CirKutz, bOOls.
DrA.
themis_t
24-09-2002, 12:55
if this can't be done then how has this been done?
bOOls eYe
25-09-2002, 01:41
Originally posted by themis_t
if this can't be done then how has this been done?
what can't be done ?
Revirgin (and less so imprec) are more designed to rebuild mangled/screwed IAT of packed/compressed PE files which have been infected with things like ASProtect etc. Earler SD2 versions could be rebuilt but like it's been said above, the redirected calls (like Securom's latest versions) call for a lot more debuggging and code replacement.
In the end it will always be possible to rebuild these protection mechs as it MUST be decrpyted in memory to run. Even SMC routines can be rebuilt. It's just a matter of time to step thru all the crap (and obfuscation used by macrovision to slow debugging down) and do a little cut and pasting.
Apps like revirgin will help, but developers are gettting wise to these rebuilders and add fake API calls (just look at the multiple "double-dipping" of the latest ASProtect) to mess up automation.
My patience these days ain't what it used to be so maybe Macrovision has beaten me!
Dr Apocalypse
25-09-2002, 04:23
I do remember +tshep or was it Kayaker? saying 'Never Ever give up' or words to that effect :D
And ArthaXerXes saying 'imhotep' (ALL YOUR OBFUSCATION ARE BELONG TO US) when Safedisc was mentioned :)
DrA.
themis_t
26-09-2002, 12:34
i think that microvision will give it up some day cause she can see that we are all beating her sooner or later....
gh0sth@cker
26-09-2002, 14:14
nah, they're making too much money. Even though their profits fell recently, they're still making very nice profits. :mad:
Dr Apocalypse
26-09-2002, 14:26
You mean as long as there are dumb software companies to sell their crap to :D
DrA.
themis_t
27-09-2002, 14:21
oh yes....
PowerTiger
28-09-2002, 06:06
Hi @ all!
It seems, SafeDisc is an easy protection.
In the past I read much about such of these protections.
Now ... and in the future ;) i'm interessted, how to bite SafeDisc.
The problem: How to start?
In the past I tryed to "crack" some little nag screens and key-prompts. With the result of blue screens and in some cases: missing nag screens! :rolleyes: There was more luck than understanding!
But CD protection is not the same as nag screens or key-prompt, isn't it?
And an other question: Why is Safe-Disc from version to version different? Other routines?
Thnx ...
PowerTiger
Dr Apocalypse
28-09-2002, 08:23
I think you're trying to run before you can walk. You need a good understanding (or at least an idea) of ASM, Windows API's and the PE file structure first :) Softice is probably a must as well!
There are some good tut's on Safedisc as well, so you may be lucky and be able to understand them.
THEN you can think about Safedisc ;) Or you could just 'reverse' bOOl's cleaner and cheat :eek:
The reason there are differing versions is simply to stay one step ahead of the crackers. A new version will theoretically need more time to 'crack', but we all know that's a load of s**t as they usually get cracked the same day :)
DrA.
PowerTiger
28-09-2002, 09:03
*smile* I know, I'm a newbe about that.
I have already some knowlege about Windows API and assembler-language (the basic).
I installed SoftIce last year just for fun (Try-And-Error-Technique :D ). I notice, that SoftIce is a powerfull tool - not only for cleaning Apps and Games from any nag screen and so on. ;)
But SoftIce was "to big" for learning. I hadn't a reason to use it. I always need a reason for learning. It is the same in school. Like Math: For what I need this f***** equation? :rolleyes:
OK ... SoftIce is needed for professional cracking. But I need a goal - like SafeDisc! :)
But back to topic! If you have some "Start-Here"-Informations, let me know it, please.
Thnx, ...
PowerTiger
Dr Apocalypse
28-09-2002, 12:32
Try Krobar's tutorial collection:
h**p://zor.org/krobar/
there's quite a few Safedisc tut's.
And I know what ya mean about equations, why the f*ck do I need to know: 2x + 1b = 0? Transpose my ar*e :)
DrA.
bOOls eYe
29-09-2002, 02:16
you can also study the source code of r!sc's sd 2.40.10 unwrapper. that's where i started :)
Dr Apocalypse
29-09-2002, 05:18
Hmm... overlooked that option, 'The Bleedin Obvious' is not my speciality it seems :D
Well pointed out bOOl's :)
DrA.
emptyeighty
29-09-2002, 07:06
"I wonder why Safedisc isn't open source"
They might actually get a good protection if they did that for a while...
PowerTiger
29-09-2002, 08:15
Uuuuu ... the first impression of your link: Much informations!
Thnx Dr. Apocalypse and b00ls eYe! :)
And thnx for your sympathy with me about Math! :D
About open source: Did they "steel" source-code from free programmers? First made open for bug-fixing and upgrading and then close when it is "perfect" and make money with it!
Boolseye do you need files from a SafeDisc v2.80.010 game? If so let me know what I have to send aswell as which compressions program to use and the parameters for the size of each archive....I have Sims Unleashed and it sports the above SafeDisc, which I cannot backup with my LiteOn 40125s and CloneCD or BlindWrite.
bOOls eYe
01-10-2002, 05:48
yeah, the sd 2.80 cd-check became better... seems they can detect the difference between an original cd and a clone.
i don't need any 2.80 files. i have 5 exe's protected with that version, that's enough for now.
thanks anyway.
gh0sth@cker
01-10-2002, 08:06
Originally posted by bOOls eYe
yeah, the sd 2.80 cd-check became better... seems they can detect the difference between an original cd and a clone.
Any details on this? What about two-sheep burners - are they beaten?
I think so I've got a Liteon 40125s and cannot create a working backup with CloneCD or BlindWrite. And I've always have been able to create a working backup with CloneCD
gh0sth@cker
01-10-2002, 10:38
I've read that most people using Clone CD weren't able to make a copy, but by using other software such as Blindwrite or Disk Jugglar many had success. :(
I also tried DiscJuggler 3.5 and Blindwrite (check sig) and then a moderator from CDFreaks suggested I try DiscDump and it's front end and that worked!
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54912
That's the link to the thread and if you are too lazy I'll quote the success.....
"Philamber by following your directions, using DiscDump and it's FrontEnd I read Sims Unleashed with the LiteOn Writer (setting a max speed of 8x read) also selecting the SafeDisc option in the frontend and burned it at 8x aswell using Nero 5.5.9.9. I clicked on the File menu, then selecting Burn Image and selecting the Cue Sheet generated by Disc Dump, then selecting DAO/96.
So where 2 Pay Programs failed, a FREE program succeeded. VERY impressive I must say.....I hope Disc Dump gets revised if and when it needs to.
Also BlindWrite didn't create totally create a coaster, it just didn't create a correct backup just like CloneCD, the files are there and the backup will install....it just won't RUN off the backup, which is what should happen. "
Also this thread on CDFreaks contains more info on using Disc Dump and other programs to read and write your image
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50778
themis_t
09-10-2002, 13:47
isn't this really really weird?
gh0sth@cker
09-10-2002, 15:36
Olli has a lot of work to be doing in my opinion. There are suggestions that the FES feature isn't up to scratch as other programs are able to read the errors better and so make a working copy.
Then there's the whole Securom issue :confused:
And if there really is an issue with Hide CD-R Media
Mr._ShaDow
14-10-2002, 13:43
I do need to know if someone has/is cracking the code 4 2.80.10 safe-disc.
i need it for my game witch i love :(. but i dont know what to do
the game is the updated operation flashpoint : resistance 1.85 v.
podunkviller
14-10-2002, 16:16
the code is cracked
Mr._ShaDow
15-10-2002, 07:58
is there an unwraper (is that what it is called)
cos i need to get rid of that safe-disc protection...
P.S. and links whod be great...
Mr._ShaDow
15-10-2002, 08:31
can someone plz help but cracking this exe file that got the sdv2.80.10
send your e-mail to me gen_shadow**********com
themis_t
18-10-2002, 16:15
then you will have to spend some hunded hours reading and learning how to crack....
Is there any way to modify the loader that deviance did for NFS HP2, so it can work with other Safedisk 2.80.010 protected exe?
i.e NBA Live 2003 and FIFA 2003
bOOls eYe
10-11-2002, 02:42
no.
themis_t
23-11-2002, 14:56
hay bool are you preparing any new cleanerz?
emptyeighty
23-11-2002, 16:16
No, he isnt. Read the unwrapper thread.
Greetings - I have recently aquired Sim City 4 - would LOVE to play it on my laptop - but it seems that this latest and greatest 2.80.010 safedisk POS won't let me. I'm glad that others already have a headstart on this... so now - who do I have to bribe to get a utility to get rid of this wrapper? It's quite ugly, will have to search around for some new latest and greatest tools.
bl0kedownthepub
18-01-2003, 16:00
Na just use a liteon and alcohol hopefully no patch needed
thanx
im off down the pub;)
PcCowboy
18-01-2003, 19:19
I just made a perfect 1:1 ISO file of Battlefield 19942 which uses SD2 using Alcohol 120%. I loaded the ISO image into my virtual drive and now I can play the game from my hard-drive without the cd. I tried burning it to cd but the disk didn't work. I may not had the settings right or something. But if you looking for a good 1:1 ISO image maker get Alcohol 120%. This is the only program that I have found that worked on this game.
Pc
bl0kedownthepub
19-01-2003, 16:28
sims unleashed, fifa 2003 and nba 2003 al have backup cd
cracks available and as ghosthacker has told me use a
lite on with alcohol 120% with emf encoding off and safedisc
2.8 is smashed so let me see those lite-on's ppl
k thats all i haev to say im off down the pUB;)
Well that would be a good idea - but since my drive can't read the drive in the firstplace the image doesn't work either - maybe if I make the image on another computer and transfer it? Ug - it'd just be easier to clean the safedisc off :)
Originally posted by bl0kedownthepub
sims unleashed, fifa 2003 and nba 2003 al have backup cd
cracks available and as ghosthacker has told me use a
lite on with alcohol 120% with emf encoding off and safedisc
2.8 is smashed so let me see those lite-on's ppl
k thats all i haev to say im off down the pUB;)
Yes my man..I´ve got a Liteon 24102B and i tested Alcohol120 and made 1:1 copys of game that have SD 2.8 and its works perfect..I use default settings in reading to image but burn from image I set down speed to 8x..very nice program this alcohol is but even better..the Lite-On rocks :)
Orbis Factor
06-02-2003, 04:41
I just made a perfect 1:1 ISO file of Battlefield 19942 which uses SD2 using Alcohol 120%. I loaded the ISO image into my virtual drive and now I can play the game from my hard-drive without the cd. I tried burning it to cd but the disk didn't work. I may not had the settings right or something. But if you looking for a good 1:1 ISO image maker get Alcohol 120%. This is the only program that I have found that worked on this game.
i'm not surprised with this since bf1942 has sd2.6x protection not sd2.8x protection until u patch it to v1.2
what i'd like to know is why a my backup of bf1942: road to rome installs and runs fine, but when i try to play online it says i need the correct cd.
Orbis Factor
06-02-2003, 17:01
ignore my bit on Road to Rome, i fixed it today
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