Please Help Me (ie Imbecile) !!

[Champion]

Ok im a newby to backing up or copying PS2 games onto CDR, ive spent the last 4 hours going over numerous tutorials and testing out 4 different CD burning programs such as CDR-WIN, Clone CD, Nero and another one i cant remember.
My burner is an Acer CDRW 12X8X32 and the game i am trying to burn is the EA Sports Cricket 2002.
Ive d/l patches and stuff but it doesnt make a difference.
Please any help would be greatly appreciated and u can contact me directly by emailing [email protected]

Cheers All

[charlie_ps2]

You might try www.psxcopyworld.co.uk for CloneCD tutorial and read the valuable Q&A section.

EA games should be copied with Clone CD (using the sub-=channel settings on READ) and setting "Don't Repair sub-channel data" on BURN.

[Champion]

Took your advice mate and got 54% of the way into burning then this error message came up.

" Writing to CD failed, MEDIUM ERROR: NO ADDITIONAL SENSE INFORMATION (3:0x02:0xff) "

And sometimes i get this alert.

" Writing to CD failed, ILLEGAL REQUEST: LOGICAL BLOCK ADDRESS OUT OF RANGE (5:0x21:0x00) "

This is using CD Clone by the way with my Acer CD-R/RW 12x8x32 burner and using an Emtec Basf CD-R.

Please help........lol..........ive been trying for ages and ive wasted at least 7 or 8 CD's doing it.

[dust2dust]

yes i beat u to this one charlie please correct mi if im wrong lol :D

acer cdwriters can write raw dao94
but they cant read subchannel (i guess this causes crash when tries to write it as it aint there
try reading with your cdrom(not your witer)hopefully it will read sub channels then u b able to write them

[Champion]

What are the sub channels byt the way........
thats how new i am ppl........
lol

[Warlock]

The problem is your media. try using a better cdr, also RAW dao94 will not backup protected PSX, PS2 games. with this drive its best to use cdrwin and ppf-o-matic to patch the protected games. It must be RAW dao96 for clonecd to work correctly.

[charlie_ps2]

To consolidate what Dust & Warlkock have said:

1/
The Acer 1210 is not fully CloneCD compatible for the purposes of copying EA CD games. They use the subchannel area to store copy protection information.

2/
CloneCD compatibility can be checked in the "supported writers" section of www.elbe.de. You are looking for entries completely in Green for full compatibility - that is RAW DAO + 96.

3/
Subchannels: A CD data block is 2048 bytes long. The "RAW" area is 304 bytes beyond that and would be used on a CD-R for error checking (but a pressed EA Games CD won't have any errors - so the RAW area can be used for other purposes). Tghe sub-channel zone is 96 bytes beyond that and would be used for CD-Text or Digital Audio Info (but not on PS2 games); some protected PS2 games use this area for copy protection information.

4/
CloneCD is able to copy a CD 1:1 in the readable area so that the RAW +96 appears on the CD-R exactly as on the CD.

5/
You will not find it easy nor rewarding to use CDRWin to copy the EA game and then patch it to get round the fact that the RAW+96 couldn't be copied. Patching is another industry. Far better to go out and buy a Yamaha or Plextror CD-burner.