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Frodo150
29-03-2002, 09:52
Ok. Again. I know someone out there has this problem. Please help me. I have an Sbox for my PS2. Out of 12 PS2 backup games, only 2 work. The other 10 are not Ea games and will just sit there and spin. All my PS1 backup games work fine. Anyone know what is the problem? Please reply or PS2 is going through window LoL.
thanx

NightStalker
29-03-2002, 14:28
Alot of games need patching when using a usb mod, not just EA games.

Frodo150
29-03-2002, 14:38
what kind of patches would i need to play these games? what would they be called?? and where? also is there a list out of games that need to be patched to be played? thanx a lot

schumy2001
29-03-2002, 14:48
they be called swap trick patches and you will find them on www.psxcopyworld.com

NightStalker
29-03-2002, 14:49
Go to www.ps2ownz.com. click on ea patches. They are usually called usb mod fix patches. also try www.gamefreax.de

Frodo150
29-03-2002, 15:01
so how does one know if a game needs a patch or not? i dont know if its my modchip or if its the game. i have ico backup and it boots everytime! the other games dont.

Frodo150
29-03-2002, 15:10
another question...if i get a patch such as "PAL/NTSC Selector & y-Fix," or "PAL to NTSC," that wont fix my problem right?

NightStalker
30-03-2002, 18:11
Correct, you want the swap fix patch

kev1n~
31-03-2002, 08:43
HI...

for the second time, you have mentioned that you have ICO backup. As you say you use S-Box, I assume this is on CD.

sorry to change the subject slightly, but could you point me in the right direction for clue on how to rip this game??

Regards...kev1n
;)

Frodo150
31-03-2002, 09:38
the game is easy rip. it is a cd therefore you can copy it with a regular cd burner. i used nero. good luck.

kev1n~
31-03-2002, 12:07
I really want to believe what you say.........BUT........

a.) it's recorded on a silver DVD. (at least it says its a DVD)
b.) the file: Data.DF in the DFDATAS directory is 846,860Kb (827Mb). & the total disk is 865Mb.

(UK PAL version (and only ps2 game called ICO ))

could I just confirm that this is the sces file?? SCES_507.60??

If it is - I will try a burn with nero (but can't imagine it working)

Best regards...Kev1n:)

Dal
31-03-2002, 12:57
Hi,

If its a silver disc then its a DVD ROM. If its a blue disc is a CDR disc. Im almost certain that the original ICO is on DVD and i think your last post has confirmed this.

Your have to burn this to a DVDr unless you rip out the bits you want and wack it to a CDR like i have. There must be a RIP tutorial on this game somewhere.

I have the DVD RIP of this game and it fits snug on a 80min CDR.

If your going to add patches to your backups i would suggest using CDRWIN to crate the BIN files and PPF-O-MATIC to apply the patches.

Check out www.psxcopyworld.co.uk on there you will find all the info u need.

Cheers

Dal :o

kev1n~
31-03-2002, 13:33
DAL:
Thanks for the info, but HOW did you just rip bits out???

the file that contains ALL the game is like the one for GT3.VOL

DATA.DF - it is ONE continuous 827Mb file.

if you have done it, how did you extract the individual files from this one structure (& put it back again)

please help....

Best regards...kev1n~:(

kev1n~
31-03-2002, 13:39
PS - I've been EEEEEEEEEverywhere.......................

& can't get my grubby hands on any sort of rip kit for this game.

& it's a bit difficult to stick it into a search engine as three letters is too small to look for (ICO RIP {search}etc... returns errors on most servers)

if anyone knows - post me a life line (before I go crazy)

Best Regards....kev1n~:) :p :)

Frodo150
31-03-2002, 14:05
well the NTSC (U.S. version) is on a cd. I'm not sure overseas. To be honest, I dont see a reason for burning this particular game. The game is about 10 hours long and there is no replay value the second time around. It is a great game, but I dont think its worth the trouble of ripping. I say its a rental, not even worth the purchase.
NOW, I was wondering if any of you guys could help me out :)
I got an SBox modchip (supposedly same thing as Neokey). All my PSx backups work fine. However I can only get two PS2 backups to boot (one of which is ICO). I have read posts saying that if you own the SBox or Neokey you must patch your games. I have searched everyone and have found few patches for this "swap trick patch." Now, I'm not sure which games need patching and which don't. I have tried applying patches with little success. The games just refuse to work. They just sit there and spin in my cd-rom or, other times, spin for a few seconds and then stop. If every games needs a patch, then this modchip is shit. Plain and simple. Half the games I own don't even have patches on the net. Has anyone ever successfully patches games for the SBox/Neokey? I am desperate. My friend in Korea has some games on his FTP site (I take it they are PAL). I cant get those to work either. So would i need to apply the PAL to NTSC patch, then the swap trick patch on top of it? Please help, this is pissing me off!!!! :mad:

kev1n~
31-03-2002, 14:42
OK - I wore out the ICO subject :rolleyes: , so on to your S-Box problem :).

I installed the S-Box (+1 wire internal), and had a complete nightmare getting backup CD games to run on my system (S-Box won't run DVDR's).

other people got them to run fine on their older models, but mine was ridiculously unreliable.

I had to adjust the CD LASER (NOT THE DVD) pot, by following the instructions on PSXCOPYWORLD.COM

This involved using a multimeter and stripping the PS2 down again, but now all is fine, and my games play 1st time (I have had to patch a few, but your problem sounds like a laser issue.

(Saw an AD for a new USB mod chip that claims to calibrate the laser automatically - don't know if this is true???)

I should point out that I find Good brand Green dye CDR's best, and burn at a SLOW speed for reliability on a newer PS2. (I read an article saying Sony adjust the laser so it just reads originals, and to make it difficult for the PS2 to read the less defined pits of a burned CDR.

Best regards...kev1n:) :)

Frodo150
31-03-2002, 16:15
You said you calibrated the cd lens right? I have tried this. I didnt read anywhere that you need a multimeter to do it. The one I read said you need a osciloscope. I didn't have access to one so I tried trial and error. After a couple hours I gave up. If I turned it too far it wouldn't even recognize originals. Please send me the link with the multimeter. Also, I dont understand why ICO works everytime if its a cd lens issue. I used to have Solderless mod and all these games worked fine. That modchip was even installed on a newer PS2 (version 5). So I'm skeptical that its my laser, but I'm willing to try anything. I know that the SBox doesnt play DVDR's but I'm only worried about playing CDRs. If you could, send me the link pointing to the page where it tells you how to fix the cd lens with a multimeter. Thanx again Kevin.

mrfixit
31-03-2002, 17:49
are you using action replay you need this to to play ps2 backup games with sbox i have only ripped 4 but all have worked for me

Frodo150
31-03-2002, 19:30
Well I am in the United States, so we have the Gameshark here. That is the equivalent of the Action Replay. I have about 12 PS2 games and only 2 work. I do not know why. Some say that my laser needs to be adjusted. If you have any tips please let me know. Also mention your boot process. Thanx

kev1n~
01-04-2002, 06:50
Here is a copy of a post I did before christmas: hope it helps. ;)

As you said, the best way to do this is with an oscilloscope, but to us poorer oiks, this is the next & only way to make sure you dont kill the PS2 laser. :)

:eek: DO NOT TOUCH THE DVD Pot (THE ps2 has a combined CD/DVD laser in one unit, & the adjustments for each are separate - ONLY touch the CD pot!!! :eek:

Set your multimeter to Resistance (Ohms).
the laser potentiometer has three pins, one at the top, and two at the bottom. Connect one of the multimeter probes to the pin at the top of the laser pot, and the other to the bottom right pin of the laser pot.

A new PS2 should read about 730 Ohms (as mine did yesterday!!)
I turned the laser pot clockwise about 10 degrees (new reading is now ~600 Ohms (suggested by Adders).

now spend the next hour putting the PS2 back together (mine was in some sort of armour plated stuff (SCPH 30003) and was a complete nightmare to strip down!.

Hey presto - all is cool !!!

Best Regards...Kev1n :)

Frodo150
01-04-2002, 10:34
Hey thanx a lot Kev, I will get right on that. I have a question though. Is the Playstation on or off when you are adjusting the laser? Thanx

kev1n~
01-04-2002, 11:45
Now THAT! is a good question!

(can't beleive no-one asked me that before)

but thinking about it, I hope they all had their PS2's switched OFF

before adjusting the laser.(no idea what the resistance would be if the unit was switched on????)

(obviously if you use the oscilloscope method, you would need the unit very much switched on and dancing)

Best regards...kev1n~
;)

typhoon
01-04-2002, 14:13
It soundike u need to do what im thinking about that is to get charlie or D2D to rip out you exsisting chip and put in a messiah
these fuckers play everything with no swap hassle at all
this refers to DVD CDR games also multi region DVD:cool: