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BrianTheMessiah
11-03-2002, 02:42
Anyone know why I can't copy Black & White Creature Isle?

I managed to make a perfect back-up of Black and White using BetaBlocker and CloneCD but cannot get a perfect or even nearly perfect copy of Creature Isle. Both use the SafeDisk 2.51 protection as far as I'm aware but I'm getting nowhere.

I'm using a Mitsumi 4802 TE writer and the latest version of CloneCD on Win '98.

Any help or ideas would be great.

Brian.

vlozity
11-03-2002, 02:56
I just used isobuster and extracted the whole game to a temp folder and included the no-cd crack from gamecopy and it worked perfectly!

TheBug
19-04-2002, 12:27
I just managed to copy Creature Isle using:

- Blindread ( to get an image of the cd )
- Insektors ( to change the image file + play tricks on cd-check )
- Blindwrite ( to get that manipulated image back on cd )
- Ricoh MP7200A (to insert the CD-R ;) )

This copy works perfectly...but ...
i would like to get completely rid of this cd-check routine and i
spent hours and hours using W32DASM (Disassembler) and
searching for that error message:
(Please insert the correct cd-rom ....blah blah)

but i can't find it in the main executable (CreatureIsle.exe)
:confused:

When i start searching for it with the "String Data references"
option (in W32DASM) i only get 5 results with non readable crap
:eek: ...instead of finding the right line to change the jump-
command into 9090909090 ..this is really annoying !!

Does anyone have an idea what i'm doing wrong ??
...every suggestion is welcome !!

emptyeighty
19-04-2002, 13:22
Hihi, Safedisc struck you.

TheBug
19-04-2002, 13:27
yeah i already know that ... :mad:

emptyeighty
19-04-2002, 13:41
No, i mean that you cant see anything in the "String Data References" because of the Anti-Debugging routines in Safedisc. Try disassembling a Safedisc protected .exe and the same .exe nonprotected. Youll see the difference.

TheBug
19-04-2002, 13:49
oh no..... thats so awful ....

yeah i see the difference... fuck ...grrr..argh ....

so i have to get into multiple years of cracking
before getting this to work ???

.... poor me ...
:(

emptyeighty
19-04-2002, 13:57
Yep. And while you go into your multiple years of cracking, could you code a generic SDv2.51 tool?;)

TheBug
19-04-2002, 14:01
yep no problem....
i'll write future version up to safedisk v5 then :D

or i even write the non-plus-ultra-all-old-current-and future no-cd patch ...working for all pc-games that are known by the human-race....

:D :D :D

emptyeighty
19-04-2002, 14:02
Damnit. That doesnt include Die Gilde, does it?:( ;) :D

packer
19-04-2002, 14:44
B&w does not use sd2 v2.51!

emptyeighty
19-04-2002, 14:48
Oh, no more french? Good.
What does it use instead?

TheBug
19-04-2002, 14:51
of course ...!!

..as i mentioned this patch will work for ANY game that will be or
was released in the past-present and future....


hey anybody out there who would like to join this great project ??

u do all the programmin' and i'll design the
interface-grafix :D :D :D

...muahahahaa

http://killer.flaboratorium.org <<-- i already prepared this little instant stress relief for all u coders who like to join !!


:D

TheBug
19-04-2002, 14:51
i would like to know that kind of protection too :confused:

packer
19-04-2002, 14:55
Originally posted by emptyeighty
Oh, no more french? Good.
What does it use instead?

what's wrong witht the french? i am practising!

packer
19-04-2002, 14:57
oh i forgot, i think it is sd2.40 or 2.41

TheBug
19-04-2002, 15:15
ok thanxs....

but seems to make no difference for me cause
they use this Anti-Debugging routines in
this version of Safedisc too and the
"String Data References" stay scrambled in
my disassembler :(

emptyeighty
19-04-2002, 16:06
Good news, bug. If its 2.40.10 you can use Unsafedisc! Use SafediskAnalyzer to make sure though. Its all on Gamefix (www.go.to/gamefix).

packer
20-04-2002, 08:38
i am sure that there is also a version of safedisc for 2.41 asq far as i remember

emptyeighty
22-04-2002, 01:34
Ive never seen v2.41 on any game. Also there is no Unsafedisc v2.41.

Morglum007
22-04-2002, 05:31
The spanish version of this game (B&W creature isle)(in english...so english version)is sfv2.51.021 because i've scanned it with safedisc analyser and didn't wotk on my plex 24x too so i 'm sure this game is not 2.4.

Good luck!