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lukey
25-12-2001, 14:37
Forgive me if I'm a bit pissed off but i've followed everyones tips in copying games and boot methods going and while cdr discs work fine dvdr don't load what so ever. I've even adj the laser to 600 ohms and i know the media i us is fine as i have made a dvd movie and that played fine. I've bought the AR2 v2 and now the Region X, they both boot cdr's but not dvds. I've even downloaded the AR2 v1.7 but that locks out with the AR2v2 dongle. So unless someone has any other ideas i'm stuck. Mery Xmas to you all!

PS2 30003 V4
Neo 2.5 dvd mod chip
pioneer dvd writer
primo dvd
Ar2 v2
DVD R X

Charlie
26-12-2001, 09:51
I'd say we have narrowed this down to AR2/1.7 needing to work. I assume the NEO2.5 fulliy wired works with VDRs - I think that's been confirmed on the Forum.

I feel really sorry for you. You've got all the expensive gear then Sony crapped on Messiah. For what my view is worth, if you've gone the whole 9 yards, try the next 9 and if you can get hold of the BootMaster MESSIAH Clone, and if it works, you won't need to use AR2. All this at your own risk, of course!

wildthing
27-12-2001, 08:32
Don't know if your'e interested but I've got a brand new copy of AR2 1.9 for sale £25 inc.P&P (bought by mistake). If your'e interested then mail me & we'll sort something out.

lukey
27-12-2001, 09:16
Thanks Charlie, before i take that root has anyone got the wiring diagram for installing the MESSIAH chip in a 30003 v4 ? also charlie i might be able to get the AR1.9 will that work dvdrs for sure ?

dust2dust
28-12-2001, 02:39
yes diags for messiah r np
ar1.9 should work fine

dust2dust
28-12-2001, 02:41
only problem with v1.9 is it dont work on v5 as it wont boot 1.9 u need 2.0
can any one confirm this
as i have another ps2 v5 if messiah disappears im in crap boot dvdr with neo2.2

lukey
31-12-2001, 08:08
Trouble is AR2 v2 won't boot dvd's or does someone know a way

Charlie
31-12-2001, 11:15
Take up Wildthing's offer. It should work but my advice is taken at your risk. 1.9 is a scarcity now.

lukey
05-01-2002, 14:06
O.K so i got the i.9 ver from wildthing (thanks mate) and i still not booting dvdr's so what's a miss? can anyone tell me what setting the primo dvd should be set at ? .

I've now got a AR2 v2 for sale £25, & a Region X for £15 if anyone is intrested.

quade
28-01-2002, 10:28
Lukey, i've got exactly the same problem and i cant get it sorted for love nor money. I've got an Ar2 1.9 with neo 2.2v modchip. I was loading DVd'rs on it for a week, played FFx on it then could'nt load any Dvdr's again. Weird. I'm still trying to sort it if i get anything i'll mail you, and if you could do the same please m8. Can i have you e-mail incase i sort it. Mine is [email protected]

Arakon
28-01-2002, 11:44
see if it can read DVDs at all. the neo 2.2 is known to damage the laser if no capacitor is installed on pin 2 of the chip, and will destroy the DVD laser sooner or later.

Charlie
28-01-2002, 17:39
It has been emerging that the Ao3 produces poor results with firmware 1.55 and better results with firmware 1.65. Also the PrimoDVD engine has an upgrade available too.

Other forums report much higher success with this combination.

As to DVD-Rs that no longer read, that's a PS2 laser matter.

Good luck.

quade
29-01-2002, 01:04
I managed to get all backups,dvd's and dvd'rs to load by moving the two pots to 600 ohms. My chip has a cap fitted, but moving these done the trick and straight in first time. Use a multimeter and record what the pots are currently set at incase it ****s up then adjust both to around 600 ohms. This website explains better with diagrams.www.modchips-uk.pwpblueyonder.co.uk look under faq's. Good luck and dont attempt this if you've been out on the piss the night before

Arakon
29-01-2002, 02:05
before you go to 600, I recommend trying values of 900, 800 and 700 first.. the lower it is, the higher the laser power.. the more likely it is to die sooner than an untouched laser unit.

stevem
29-01-2002, 02:30
Arakon (28-01-2002 19:44):
see if it can read DVDs at all. the neo 2.2 is known to damage the laser if no capacitor is installed on pin 2 of the chip, and will destroy the DVD laser sooner or later.
Is there any truth in this. i've just put a neo 2.2 in a 3003 v4 without a capacitor. The site where I got the chip said that the hx had been improved, 'timing issues had been resolved and a capacitor was no longer needed '. can anyone comment on this

Arakon
29-01-2002, 04:59
it's definately true, it's not the timing that causes the laser to be fried, but the fact that the chip constantly sends its signal to the laser, causing damage if it's not filtered some.
I know of alot of people whose laser failed right after or soon after installing a neo without cap.

Charlie
29-01-2002, 06:34
Arakon (29-01-2002 12:59):
it's definitely true, it's not the timing that causes the laser to be fried, but the fact that the chip constantly sends its signal to the laser, causing damage if it's not filtered some.
I know of alot of people whose laser failed right after or soon after installing a neo without cap.
Arakon,

Could you please expand on that? These are the NEO2.2 pins as I understand them;

PIN #1 = supplies + (power) to the chip
PIN #2 = sends SCE signal out to PS 2
PIN #3 = PS 2 drive tray pulse tells the BA5810FP chip whether to expect a drive tray open or close
PIN #4 = checks/signals RESET button on the PS 2
PIN #5 = closes PS 2 drive tray
PIN #6 = opens PS 2 drive tray
PIN #7 = checks if game CD is PSX/PS 2 (If PS 2, immediately stops SCE signal & restarts when a "tray close" is seen. If PSX, it stops after about 15-20 seconds)
PIN #8 = supplies ground to the chip

Arakon
29-01-2002, 08:11
pin 2 constantly sends out a signal, and at 5V no less, while most components in the ps2 run off 3.3V, including the laser. that damages the laser sooner or later.
before using caps became common, there were ALOT of ps2's with failed laser units after installing the chip.
the safest way for a neo 2.2 is this: a 100 V 1 uF cap on pin 2, and a 220-270 ohm resistor behind that, to smooth and lower the signal, so the negative effect is minimal, but the signal still enough to work.

Charlie
29-01-2002, 08:50
Arakon, thanks. I'm grateful to have learnt something. I don't have a NEO2.2 but will now look at the voltage level in the SCE signal on the OrigaChip.

Nice one and thanks again.

quade
30-01-2002, 01:14
Just confirming the above i adjusted my pot to 600ohms last night, tonight it doesnt load any sort of dvd, just sits there clicking. i have now adjusted to orginal settings and it still wont load.i have a 1 uf cap fitted to my chip. If i go out and get the laser replaced/fixed am i likey to end up with the same issue 2 months down the line. If so is there anything i can do to totally eliminate laser damage. This unit is 1.5 years old, could it just have gone regardless of chip. Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

dust2dust
30-01-2002, 08:27
hmm xmas eve my ps2 stops loading dvd games
i think crap messiah no good anymore
i get dvd cleaning disk(dvd with little brushes on it
after i cleaned laser dvd loaded in perfect
must b worth a try
many people has had this problem