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bleep
25-03-2009, 08:00
Hey all, long time no read. Just wondering if there were any debuggers compatible with Vista 64bit available yet.
I've tried ollydbg but this particular game seems to detect it and crash after a short while.
I recall having troube getting softice to work on my old xp running pc so I doubt that's even an option and syser is only for 32bit os's I believe.

Anyone know of anything?
Joe Forster/STA
25-03-2009, 08:23
SoftICE is dead but has been reincarnated as Syser Kernel Debugger (http://www.sysersoft.com/products.html); unfortunately, it's 32-bit only. So is OllyDbg (http://www.ollydbg.de). Perhaps, the 64-bit platform is not yet mature enough for a serious debugger?
TippeX
25-03-2009, 08:24
windbg.. its probably detectable though
Joe Forster/STA
25-03-2009, 08:41
Wow, nice. I definitely need something with which I can debug a device driver that works, when compiled with the Windows Device Driver Kit, but causes a BSOD, when compiled with MinGW; I hope WinDbg will help me with this.
bleep
25-03-2009, 19:06
Thanks guys, I'll give windbg ago.
DABhand
26-03-2009, 03:49
Joe there is a 64 bit version of Sice/Syser. And it does work in Vista (as long as UAC is turned off)
Muji-FightR
26-03-2009, 09:05
I take it you're looking for a 32bit debugger that runs on vista64 (ie in wow64)?
Or a debugger for native 64bit apps?
bleep
26-03-2009, 19:48
Joe there is a 64 bit version of Sice/Syser. And it does work in Vista (as long as UAC is turned off)
Syser only supports 32bit, the boot module doesn't work in vista 64bit.

I take it you're looking for a 32bit debugger that runs on vista64 (ie in wow64)?
Or a debugger for native 64bit apps?
Yeah just a 32bit debugger on vista 64bit, used for game training. Windbg seems to work undetected on this particular game, so far.
Ollydbg is my prefered choice but seems to crash a few mins after initial attach.
DABhand
27-03-2009, 05:42
Syser only supports 32bit, the boot module doesn't work in vista 64bit.

There IS a 64 bit version.

I use it.

The boot module yes has to be updated from Compuware themselves, assuming your Sice is legit that is, as Vista's MBR is different than XP and below. Thats a given.


http://rr0d.droids-corp.org/ is a free open source one, just x64 ((32bit)).

There is also olly which works fine also.

Tsearch and CheatEngine have their own debuggers, with a bit of work can be used effectively.
bleep
27-03-2009, 08:27
Well I've tried the Syser Kernel Debugger (http://www.sysersoft.com/products.html) trial and it refuses to boot. I've been to their support forum (which is a joke) and saw only one thread concerning Vista 64 and the admin stated there was no support for 64bit, that post was from '07 though.

Judging by the way they treat the customer queries on the forum, I think I'll leave that app well alone. ;)

Ollydbg is the best choice, as stated earlier it just doesn't happen to work with this particular game. I'll continue to use Windbg for now.
hopsie
04-04-2009, 07:58
Dabhand,

I think you've got some things mixed up??, I do know Syser debugger is working on Vista so I am pretty curious how you managed to get a legit version of SoftICE to run on Vista
DABhand
04-04-2009, 14:09
Dabhand,

I think you've got some things mixed up??, I do know Syser debugger is working on Vista so I am pretty curious how you managed to get a legit version of SoftICE to run on Vista

I have paid for my legit Syser, I get updates from them, I got one that allows installation and use in 64bit vista OS's.