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Takashi
31-01-2001, 03:16
I really need some help, please... I mean, I'm not lazy, I've burn almost 20 Coasters already.... I think I've basically tried every method here.

The only thing I was able to burn was the boot disc. Because the boot disc was simple. It was small, it only has 1 track. It worked great. I burnt it with D.J 2.0 and it was awesome.

I was so freakin happy until the next day.

I was able to get my hands on a release from Echlon. They were Silent Scope and King of Fighters Evolution.

I heard Silent Scope might have problems and it's not easy to burn, so I used the Kof Evolution image to do my burn tests.

Notice that the game was released by Echlon, I assume that the game is already patched and it's a ready to play self boot game.

I am a lamer when it comes to burning DC games but I ain't no lamer when it comes to getting warez. Basically, I got all my RAR files and everythign right, no CRC errors, everything went smoothly for the download and extracting part. So let's not worry about that.

I got the Image. the kof image file that ends with .cdi. which is for Disk Juggler.

So I pop-in a Empty disc. Start burning. Then I get this stupid message saying dummy blocks added. So I ignored it like Igotshit666 said. [yes, ofcourse I've read big papa and igotshit's posts.] But my burns were not reconized both by windows or my dreamcast.

To make sure everything is ok I double checked my Asus scsi card and my YAMAHA CDR100 4x burner. They were both ok. I mean, I could burn regular things on my harddrive. Like Mp3s and zip files. No problem on that. So my burner is working fine. No problems.

I'm using some crappy Silver CD but I've been using these CDs for a long time and they all work great for both my reader and burner. So I didn't think I need to switch. But anyways, I went out and got myself a box of Acer 80Min CDs just incase.

After being so devastated about Disc Juggler, I went and try using cdi2nero to convert to a NRG image. And try to burn it that way.
The darn thing tells me it's only 6min file when I checked outside in windows it clearly shows it's a 720meg image file.

I gave up on Nero, I went to CDIRip -> CDRWin Method.
I successfully ripped the guts out of that image. I got a Cue file, a Wav. file and an ISO file. I looked into the cue file like Papa said with a note pad. I dind't understand it at first but after all that coasters I've burn, I've learn something. All these self boots have 2 tracks. The first track is a small 300sector audio track and then follows by a huge data track. I assume that the small audio track is the self boot device and the huge data track is the game itself?

Anyways, Igotshit666 said that not to burn if I don't get the "Open Session" box on CDRWin, but I was so devastated, so I tried anyways. he was write, the dumbass that I am. i made another coaster. I actually grabbed this Coaster and bend it in half. It wasn't easy and it cracked and splashed the piece everywhere.

I was already going a little nuts at that time. That was about the 12th Coaster I've made.

At this point I notice something. Now that I know for sure that self boot games all have 2 tracks and 1 session. Now I know why Nero wants to burn a 6 min session. Get this: When I used CDIRip to extract the stuff in the .cdi image. I got 3 files right?

It was a .CUE file.
a .WAV file.
and a .ISO File.

I looked into the .CUE file.
Look at what I found.

--------------------------
FILE TAUDIO01.WAV WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
--------------------------

According to big papa's post, this looks nothing like a working cue file. Notice that this only contains the parameter for the audio track, but where's the parameter for the DATA track?? [meaning the huge .iso file.]

This part I never figured out why.

Takashi
31-01-2001, 03:17
I don't even want to mention that I've used Track merge. That is not even needed, Track merge is only needed when you have more then 1 audio track. [Am I correct about this?]

So now, I tried this CDIBurner thing i found in the DCCopyworld util section, and tried it.

It looked good. It looks like it's gonna solve my problem with not being able to burn these audio + data images.

This CDI Burner basically is just a GUI that utilizes the Dos CDIRip and the Dos CDRecord util. It looks good because the batch file actually contains a parameter to write the Audio track at multi session first.
then ends with a Data track witha 1x mode. [end the CD.]

So then I thought everything is gonna work great and stuff so I poped it in to my reader and see what's up. Nothing came up. But this time it's actually loading like crazy. So I interuppted the read and pull out the cd to try it on my DC. This time, it would try to read the CD like crazy. But still, nothing comes up. It was reading CD so mad that it sounds like it was gonna explode. So I just shut it down and threw away another coaster.

I wanted to try WinonCD but I cannot get my hands on that software. But I doubt that it will work for me anyways.

I then tried downloading Fireburner. But for some reason it won't see my Yamaha CDR100. Probably becasue my burner is too old or it's a scsi and it doesn't know how to reconize it. [which I really doubt.]

So far, I've tried burning 3 copies of Silent scope and 17 copies of King of fighters. No luck. All went to my moutain of coasters.

The only sucess I have is the Boot CD.

I've tried to take one of my selfboot games into my reader and make an image out of it. Then I try to burn it with DJ2.0. It gave me the same freaking error about the dummy blocks added crap.

then I tried to take the Boot disc I made and put it into my reader and make an image out of that. That turn out to be fine actually.

Reason for having so much coasters is that I've tried it in different modes... like Mode1, Mode2, 2048, 3668, 3652... whatever's in the misc section... I've tried.... I actually followed big papa's guide on the settings. Nothing worked, that's why I ended up with so much coasters.

Sorry about the huge post. But, like I said I'm really devastated.

If you've actually read all the way down here. Thanks for caring about my problem. Really I appreciate your help.

But I'm really bummed out.... I've spent so much time on this... I would just go out and buy an other CDR... but I've already paid for this one.... it was used, it works perfectly with other things. And I purchased a nice ASUS scsi card just for this CDR. I mean, I should go out and buy another IDE CDR???? .... I really wish... but I really not in a budget to waste money like that anymore... I have far too many bills to pay and plus rent and the payment on my car...... I just can't afford to shell out another few hundred dollar for a burner. Atleast not for a while....

Takashi
31-01-2001, 03:24
By the way, if anyone wants to trade some ack.. hm.... dc backups. :) Message me. I run a FTP server with 1mb Cable connection. I have about 14 games all together. They all work.
Some selfboots and some non self boots.

I also have the Echlon release of Silent scope and KOF Evo I was talking about in the above article. And I'm gettin some more this weekend. Anyways, email me and we'll talk further more. I dont' want to get this board in trouble...... so I'll stop here.

You see... I'm getting games... on images... I'm going to be getting more and more... but it's crazy that I can't even burn them. :( please... someone help me. =( If you can really help me out on my problem, I don't even mind giving you special access to my ftp at all... please... I need help. =( I wanna burn these images. =(