Boiling Point working with Alcohol [Archive]

!HaGaR!

19-05-2005, 14:22

Well, really simple.
Use latest alcohol release... .x.x.2802 i guess.

Slam the DVD in your drive, select dpm-dump, quality: high.
Mount the image with daemon tools or alcohol - rmps emulation option enabled.
If the game detects emulation-software (and it will detect it ;-D),
use "anti blaxx v1.15" or the already known registry-hacks/driver-rename-workarounds to cheat the emulation-detection.
i used the anti blaxx tool.
game runs fine then.

-> ask google for everything mentioned above. it will find some links.

!HaGaR!

Edit: Seems that the image-creation must be done on a starforce-clean-system. Tried the same mentioned above with installed starforce drivers (multi-os-system). Resulting .mds files differ -> game won´t run!

Chunter

20-05-2005, 10:20

confirmed..it does indeed work,although i received two crc errors on installation..probably because i rushed the image..still installed and played ok.
Gonna retry it slower now

Twiel

21-05-2005, 04:27

great, now waiting for the nocd cause my damn dvd player doesnt work with the protection

kre

21-05-2005, 06:16

great, now waiting for the nocd cause my damn dvd player doesnt work with the protection
Think you don't have to wait for long. RELOADED has done one.

Twiel

21-05-2005, 06:58

thanx for the info, anyone knows where I can get it? It's really really really frustrating to buy a game I was so looking forward to, to find out my dvd player isn't up to it.

vlfan

21-05-2005, 09:39

Hi, could you please tell me, where I can find the nocd from RELOADED?

Thank you!

ShadowDuke

21-05-2005, 13:09

Ive the No-DVD crack, give mail ill send u

Game, dont work,..but crack works well, have orig dvd here.

Xenus.exe caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module vital.dll at 001B:55078E13, memmove()+0051 byte(s), F:\VS70Builds\3077\vc\crtbld\crt\src\Intel\MEMCPY. ASM, line 0171

Registers:
EAX=0183A49A EBX=00009B79 ECX=00001D27 EDX=00000001 ESI=01832FFD
EDI=00EB7194 EBP=0022E3C8 ESP=0022E3C0 EIP=55078E13 FLG=00010202
CS=001B DS=0023 SS=0023 ES=0023 FS=0038 GS=0000

Call stack:
001B:55078E13 (0x00EB4AB8 0x01830921 0x00009B79 0x00000018) vital.dll, memmove()+0051 byte(s), F:\VS70Builds\3077\vc\crtbld\crt\src\Intel\MEMCPY. ASM, line 0171

001B:55063B06 (0x01830921 0x00EB4AB8 0x00009B79 0x00009B92) vital.dll, get_a()+0022 byte(s), d:\ve_sdk2\vital2-full\sequence library.cpp, line 0411+0022 byte(s)

001B:5504C780 (0x0022E9C0 0x0022EE38 0x0022EBF4 0x0022F138) vital.dll, gfFillFileListGrp()+0320 byte(s), d:\ve_sdk2\vital2-full\gf manager.cpp, line 1240+0035 byte(s)

001B:5504C8C0 (0x550AC150 0x0022EE38 0x0022F138 0x7FFDF000) vital.dll, gfFillFileList()+0208 byte(s), d:\ve_sdk2\vital2-full\gf manager.cpp, line 1261+0008 byte(s)

001B:5504A0FF (0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000) vital.dll, gfStartLo()+0079 byte(s), d:\ve_sdk2\vital2-full\gf manager.cpp, line 0075

Anyone have an idea?

AMD Sempron 2200+ (~1667 MHz) FSB 333
K7VT4A+
512 MB DDR '333
GeForce 5200 FX 128 MB
Creative SB Live! 5.1
Win2k - SP 4
newest Drivers

SD

GLH

21-05-2005, 14:32

The NoDVD-Crack by RELOADED is now available at GameCopyWorld !

Radar911

22-05-2005, 02:06

Have anybody tried making a mini-image of this game yet?

Diranar

22-05-2005, 02:49

Dummy ! It's Impossible to make a mini-Image from Securom Protected Games.

Mini Images are ONLY for Starforce and Safedisk.

How many times i have to say that aggain in my life ?

Diranar

ataxy

22-05-2005, 18:14

the nocd exe from reloaded crashes each time i try to start a new game i mean i can load the game set the option and all but ounce i set my difficulty level and click start the loading bar comes up and then the game crashes about one third of the loading

this is the error message i get in the crash.txt file that the game creates

Xenus.exe caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module VELoader.dll at 001B:54002715, Unload()+0005 byte(s)

Registers:
EAX=00000000 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000000 EDX=7C90EB94 ESI=00000000
EDI=00000000 EBP=3778C910 ESP=0022D1F4 EIP=54002715 FLG=00210202
CS=001B DS=0023 SS=0023 ES=0023 FS=003B GS=0000

Call stack:
001B:54002715 (0x00000004 0x00000004 0x000018D7 0x00000000) VELoader.dll, Unload()+0005 byte(s)

does anybody know of another nocd exe

DarkLeftos

22-05-2005, 23:24

Works fine for me with original game and no-dvd by Reloaded.

ataxy

23-05-2005, 07:40

Works fine for me with original game and no-dvd by Reloaded.
yeah i think i found the problem it might have something to do with my ati or its driver

jinsatoemo

23-05-2005, 07:49

you can play with the created alcohol image mounted on daemon tools with the help of SFN cdrom disabler.

ataxy

23-05-2005, 08:35

ok my problem is solved here is what was wrong
the crack does not work if you choose french during the installation you have to choose english

ShadowDuke

23-05-2005, 18:10

Crack working fine, i have the original Game, it have the same xenux.exe error, so its the Game, not the Crack.

ataxy

23-05-2005, 21:26

Crack working fine, i have the original Game, it have the same xenux.exe error, so its the Game, not the Crack.

and you installed it in english oh well i guess the that simply reinstalling the game may solve the error but i havent tryed reinstalling the game in french anyway this game is full of bug just by looking at the amount of sound problem the game as it will be interresting to see the size of the first patch

DarkLeftos

23-05-2005, 23:34

Absolutely agree.

The bugs in this game are quite numerous, although they don't ruin the gaming experience completely.

Main point of argue, REALLY high specs needed. I need to add 512mb of RAM (at least 1GB needed for DECENT gameplay)...

DABhand

24-05-2005, 01:50

Tried on a

2.8XP
1GB PC3200
256 FX5200
SB Live 24bit
300GB SATA

Runs fine for me, in process of a trainer for it too. So no hold ups between scanning memory etc.

ataxy

24-05-2005, 02:27

just tought i would let you know by chaging the following in the GAME.ini file i gain a small boost in performance

CacheMemory=10

change to this

CacheMemory=64

you will find it almost at the end of the ini file

Chunter

24-05-2005, 11:40

does everyone else have the sound problems when you speak to the npc's ? ie you can't hear them

DarkLeftos

24-05-2005, 12:15

There is a known bug about the sound being cut-off in some dialogs.

We all pray for a patch!

DABhand, what are your in-game Video settings?

I have just 512mb of ram, so I'll be sure to get myself another 512 pretty soon.

DABhand

25-05-2005, 01:58

In game everything max, as in antialiasing etc, on 1024x768x32

DarkLeftos

25-05-2005, 12:45

Good god, you're really lucky. And you're getting no lag?

I'm certainly getting more ram... I want to get this game to be playable!

Eagle

25-05-2005, 13:06

luckily I have 2GB of RAM :cool:
Thats really the optimum for BP, hard to believe but true :eek:

and btw. a patch is in the works and will hit the net in a few days!

dede

25-05-2005, 20:50

:eek: Hi friends, this game is great crap overloadet with bugs, if you play with original or cracked it's not playable the game graphik short blockings and sound probs so i play 5 minutes and quit because its to shiot to play with an hacked display and sound.My configuration permit me to play some good gamez without some probs H.L.2 or other recent games but here is crap.

AMD ATHLON 2400+
GeForce 6600 GT
1Go ddr 400
XP sp1

Crap display (psikedelik sky & slow perf.)
Crap sound (blocking in some dialogs.) :eek: :D

DarkLeftos

26-05-2005, 00:23

It may have some bugs, but saying its crap is totally stupid.

It's the first game of a new developing company, and it is quite great for a first try. It has an almost endless landscape, quite nice plot, every action decides how the story moves on, you can do almost anything...

And it includes some quite new things which haven't been seen in any game before. That is, drinking will effect the way you walk and drive (but is totally necessary in order to get to talk to some characters), you can get addicted to alcohol or drugs, you lose health if you are tired and many more...

The fact that you can't play the game quite well doesn't make it crap. I like the game a lot, no matter the lag or bugs, and I respect the developers' work.

I don't have the money for another 1.5gigs of ram, so I'll just get the 512 now, and we'll see how it goes from there. (Summer is coming, I hope that I'll have some relatives coming over... lol)

malik22

26-05-2005, 00:54

Hi guys

The American 1.1patch has been released http://www.atari.com/us/support/newfaq/boilingpoint.php?browser=1&pageDisplay=DOWNLOADS

Can someone make a crack for this or tell me how to make a working back up for 1.1 patch and ones that will be released in the future.

Joe Forster/STA

26-05-2005, 03:14

Be more patient; read forum rule #6!

dede

26-05-2005, 09:29

Allright, you respect the manufacterer we sale unacheved crap, and i support the cracker we have make a excellent crack, is unacceptable that many poeple say the crack isn't ok. with and multiple bugged game! :eek:

Jedo

26-05-2005, 09:35

I get that Exception error one of a sudden :S majority of my savegames don't work anymore. Before everything worked fine but now it seems after a certain time deadline all further savegames become corrupt. :S

malik22

26-05-2005, 09:39

Did you install the new patch Jedo?

Jedo

26-05-2005, 09:44

dede

26-05-2005, 11:20

Some gamez work fine after update 1.1, with 1.0 cracks but not each, in some updates the modifications are effectued on the EXE file & you need a updated crack to benefit the updated things. its simple use your update with original CD or image without a crack & look if the game work bether. :D

malik22

26-05-2005, 11:59

Downloaded and installed...the old no-cd works with it although I you never know for sure. The problem continues. Í'm now stuck at the place where he has to go to an abandoned factory. Can someone who pases the game first with only the main quest done plz post their savegame somewhere? :)

Jedo you have the american version cause i have the european and the patch is not out yet for it is there another way apart from nocds?

Chunter

26-05-2005, 15:12

so lemme get this straight....theres a patch for the US version which isn't released yet,but the European version which is out has no patch

sorry wheres the logic ? and did you see the changelog ? they knew they were releasing an unfinished game..sad state of affairs.

malik22

26-05-2005, 16:26

DarkLeftos

26-05-2005, 22:09

Here are some links that might help you:

Deep Shadows FAQ (http://www.deep-shadows.com/fullnews.phtml?id=278)

Deep Shadows Homepage (http://www.deep-shadows.com/en/)

ATARI's Tech Support page for Boiling Point (http://www.atari.com/us/support/newfaq/boilingpoint.php?browser=1&osType=WINXP&pageDisplay=MAIN#faq_prodissues)

And ESPECIALLY:

Boiling Point Main Fansite Homepage (http://www.xenus-hq.net/)

^^^ above link has changelog of the first patch too ^^^

I think people should at least give some respect to the developers. It's like their first or second game, they did a huge amount of work to create such a vast game with a list of features that could take me two nights to write, and people are complaining about the bugs from the first day.

Yes, there are bugs, but the game itself (at least in my opinion) has made me worry very little about them. Check out the FAQ and you should be able to avoid most of them until they're fixed.

If you want to help them with creating a patch, you shouldn't be calling names and complaining. You should be REPORTING bugs, and asking kindly for a patch. They've already created a US patch, and it won't be long since we get the EU one.

So just be patient, and stop the blabbering.

If you can't enjoy the game for what it is, don't play it!

Chunter

27-05-2005, 02:12

So just be patient, and stop the blabbering.

if you'd bought a car and there was one seat missing and the radio only played the worst station in your area and it only had 3 wheels instead of 4 you'd be miffed wouldn't you ?

it'd mean you could still drive albeit on 3 wheels ,so not too good in the handling department,you'd still be able to listen to a radio station ,albeit the crappiest one around,and ..oh .. thats what the drivers seat was for..

don't come in hear with your more posts than you rubbish and automatically assume we're 12 year olds.
what we posted above was confusion with a bit of sarcasm...how can you release a patch for a game thats not out yet ?

thats a bit like the egg before the chicken..

I think people should at least give some respect to the developers

oh i do have respect but not much,where was the play testing ?
you'd soon complain if you went to the cinema but could only hear the sound if you looked at the back wall...

come on,how could they have missed that ?

good game but shouldn't have been released for a long time yet.

DABhand

27-05-2005, 02:18

Why do people think they become Game experts all of a sudden.

The game would have been running on test machines during QA times. The fact is people have all different types of specs of pc's you cant Please 100% of the people.

Name one game, just one game, where everyone bought a game and it worked for everyone (PC not console).

DarkLeftos

27-05-2005, 03:06

@Chunter:

I, personally, wouldn't expect a company that had just made its first car to actually get it working without any problems. I would be thinking about it, and I'd be taking a risk.

I didn't call names at anybody, neither did I assume anyone was 12 years old. I even searched the internet and provided support links for all the people like yourself who have problems with the game. But you can't even say thank you, you just go on to judge me.

This is software, and being a developer myself too, I know that no matter how much you test it and how many rigs you've tested it on, there's always gonna be bugs. Trust me, the first version of my program had quite some bugs, and that was due to my lack of experience. If I got people saying "Hey, your program sucks, it's full of bugs, I'm gonna delete it and then wipe it off my hard disk" I would just give up. But I got "hey, quite some work you put on the program, but i've noticed there are some bugs, here is what I found" and that is what kept me going. Just think of yourself as a developer. What would be better?

Those developers actually tried hard, and although their game has bugs, from their first day they're working on ways to fix them. I know it's ironic that the US patch is released while there is no US release, but I'm being patient.

So, next time you buy a car from a company new to the automobile section, wait for a reliable magazine to test drive it, or ask your friends about it BEFORE buying it, if you're NOT feeling risky.

Translated into software terms, next time you buy a game from a company (see DeepShadows) which has quite little experience in the sector, read some reviews first, browse through some forums, get an opinion from here and there, and THEN buy it.

I actually KNEW about the bugs before buying the game, but a game with such features as Boiling Point, was a risk worth taking. And trust me, with its bugs and its lag, it's still pretty enjoyable, and it's gonna be even more enjoyable in a few days.

That's MY opinion, I'm not flaming or criticizing anybody.

And I'd like to remind everyone of FarCry... How many patches are out up to now? Are there still bugs? How long has it been out? How many compatibility problems were there? Heck, I had a high-end computer for its standards at the time, and the game was hardly playable! I had to search the web, browse through hundreds of topics, to make the game playable.

But, lesson learned, I've been quite cautious since then.

@DabHand:

Thanks for the support. I've just added one more point to yours by mentioning FarCry above.

ShadowDuke

27-05-2005, 06:50

Here's the Patch for the US Retail Version, fu Atari!!

http://www.gamershell.com/news/22383.html

SD

Grumpy

27-05-2005, 07:43

@Dark Leftos
Hey dont pick on Farcry! Its my favorite game. :D :p ;)

(Meant as a joke, I agree with what you are saying) :)

DarkLeftos

27-05-2005, 07:52

Meeeh, I would be playing it if I ever got it working on my old 5700. I only managed to get it working on a friend's PC... :( :(

ToXa

27-05-2005, 12:42

Excuse me? i from Russia! somebody, can you give me you game.dll on my mail
antgorkon@********* . on my version stay star-force 3 and i need you help. pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee...............

DarkLeftos

27-05-2005, 23:58

No user is allowed to send you any files, it is against the rules mate.

Jedo

28-05-2005, 06:49

Just want to state several interesting facts:

1. I patched my European version with a US patch and used the old no-cd and the game worked just as before except I can't bring down the console.

2. I deleted the no-cd and installed Anti-Blaxx (availible for download at gamecopyworld) and connected it with the game's image in Deamon tools so I could play without the no-cd. When I did, ALL MY SOUND PROBLEMS disapeared! No more skipping lagging sounds.

3. I installed all new drivers but the load & crash problem still continues sometimes in some places. Annoying...

4. At the very end where you have to blow up the generator DO NOT WASTE your bullets thinking you will kill all of the enemy from behind cover and then proceed. THE ENEMY RESPAWNS. With me the whole place is covered with corpses now. I'm outta health and outta bullets and can't use cheats because console won't come down and the trainer crashes my game

Patrickos

28-05-2005, 07:45

Welcome.
I have problem with starting game :(
When the nVidia logo coming up its freeze and theres nothing :(
I had reinstalled game and patched it and nothing :(

Whats up with that ;(
Plessss help me guys, i want play this game so badly

ShadowDuke

28-05-2005, 09:22

Just want to state several interesting facts:

1. I patched my European version with a US patch and used the old no-cd and the game worked just as before except I can't bring down the console.

Yeah, me too, but its normal that u can play, cos in eu version the patch does not update every file, xenux.exe too, so crack works fine.

I've got the original EU Version and the Patch does not work ! So i ve to wait.. :(

Advocate

28-05-2005, 10:24

I have the same problem as the person above. When I start the game at the Nvidia logo the game freezes. Anyone have any ideas. Would be appreciated.

Thanks in Advance

Athlon 3200+ 64.
1 GB Ram
2 x 6600 gt extremes in SLi mode
Audigy 2 ZS

khafan

28-05-2005, 13:39

Open game.ini file in the notePad and look for "DISABLEAVIPLAYER=0" change it to DISABLEAVIPLAYER=1
if this fixes the problem then you have codec problem.

Advocate

28-05-2005, 17:39

Thanks Khafan that was exactly was the problem.

In being a newbie to some of this stuff, (not gaming itself) can someone explain the reason around my codex being wrong and wheather this will cause me other problems and if so how I can fix it.

Also is there a patch for the multilanguage version of the game.

Thanks

Patrickos

29-05-2005, 01:51

The problem with nVidia logo.
I had the WMP 10 and thats was the problem cos when I install the WMP9 its runs great for me.
But i try trick with game.ini, and try it with WMP 10.
Thx

peogeot

29-05-2005, 15:22

too many bugs in this game.....it has been better if there less bugs.....still waiting that goddamm patch.....

Jedo

31-05-2005, 00:41

Only problem now: I'm at the point of blowing up the generators but the scientist said that I can find TNT somewhere near there. I been everywhere so far and haven't found any. Might've as well gone back to town (again).

Any mods or walkthroughs visible on this game?

peogeot

31-05-2005, 04:48

excuse me jedo.....i help you little.....there is some room where is guns , rpg.....you must take rpg and shoot the generators(8 of them) with rpg.....scientist says tnt but there is no tnt anywhere so you must take rpg..... :cool:

Jedo

01-06-2005, 01:38

I believe I already tried that but I'm going to try again. thanx

malik22

01-06-2005, 13:30

[QUOTE=Jedo]Just want to state several interesting facts:

1. I patched my European version with a US patch and used the old no-cd and the game worked just as before except I can't bring down the console.

2. I deleted the no-cd and installed Anti-Blaxx (availible for download at gamecopyworld) and connected it with the game's image in Deamon tools so I could play without the no-cd. When I did, ALL MY SOUND PROBLEMS disapeared! No more skipping lagging sounds.

How do you connect it to daemon tools? This means dameon tools will have to be enabled everytime i want to play the game? And is it better to use alcohol or daemon?

Sry for the dumb questions but I have never done this

Jedo

01-06-2005, 16:45

I don't think Daemon tools are needed to be enabled all the time. After all the virtual drive already exists. I do encounter weird problems with Daemon tools and Anti-Blaxx icons disappearing from the task bar and Daemon some time ago started freaking out with some kind of dll error :S

Anyways when you start Anti-Blax you should be able to figure it out. Just fill in the fields in the lower part where it asks for Daemon directory, game dir etc. etc.

malik22

01-06-2005, 17:24

Jedo

03-06-2005, 03:52

Thx Jedo so I wont need a nocd when the euro patch comes out doing it this way?
And can I use the new version of Anti blax 1.16?

Funny that I find out about it just now but actually all those problems I had with no no-cds for new patches couldve been avoided this easily :P

Not sure about the new version but I think teh newer the better.

malik22

03-06-2005, 10:17

so the dameon anti blax combination should work with the future patches?

egtuscani03

03-06-2005, 22:56

Ok, im pretty bad at this stuff, cant seem to figure it out. I just got BP and I had problems during installation, there was several CRC errors, mainly newgrp.grp or something. So i ignore them and continue (cuz nothing i do rectifies this) so Im playing the game and its choppy at best, and it shouldnt be with my system. also now that im playing it continually crashes every time i play, with a lot of .dll exceptions. its unplayable now, cuz i play for 5 minutes, and it crashes. very annoying. Ive tried reinstalling, nothing.

I read something in this thread about the dvd not being able to handle it or somethng and people use the nocd crach with daemon ? i dont know much about that stuff, i was hoping maybe someone could help me out with this ?
here are system specs: fx-55 2.6ghz, 1GB corsair, 6800 ultra, realtek ac97 SC. I really enjoy what ive played of the game so far, its right up my alley but it really sucks not being able to play it. any help greatly appreciated

DarkLeftos

04-06-2005, 07:17

Have you tried using the tweaked game.ini and raising your pagefile to 1GB? Have you changed Lighting to Vertex? Have you updated your drivers?

Your system is quite high-end and should be able to play the game without chopiness, hell, even mine plays it waaaaay good right now.

As for the CRC errors, they aren't something that should be ignored. It means either a bad disk or a worn drive. So return the game and ask for a new copy. It should work

Grumpy

04-06-2005, 09:41

I have a P4 3.2GHz, 2gig of Duel Channel Ram, and a ATI X800XT video card and i run Boiling Point with 'all' settings on full/high, (all slider bars are to the right), at 1024x768 with basically no problems at all! There is the very slight stutter once in a while but nothing to bad! But when I run it at 1600x1200 I do have some stuttering problems!
I have yet to try any of the tweaks and I havent installed the latest upgrade patch for it yet.
Later I will try some of the tweaks mentioned to see if I can get it to run at 1600x1200.
I just thought I would mention this to let you all know what you basically need to run this game with all the eye candy! Looks very nice btw. ;)