NEED LOTS OF HELP (NEWBIE)

[LIL LARK]

FOR THIS NEW EXTERNAL NEOKEY, I AM CONFUSED ON HOW IT WORKS. DO I HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL TYPE OF BURNER TO COPY A PS2 GAME? I HAVE A STANDARD COMPACT LG-CD-RW 8083B. Will that work???? DO I HAVE TO HAVE SPECAL TYPES OF CDS TO BURN A GAME(CDR OR DVDR)? What are backups and he different kinds of backups I have been reading about? AND WHAT ARE CLONE CD AND DJ AND how do you use PATCHES!! PLEASE RESPOND WITH INFORMATION ON THE NEOKEY AND WHAT REQUIRMENTS I NEED!!THANKS

[Charlie]

Here's lots of help. Your LG is not ideal for CloneCD (see below). Because of NEOK u need to patch games with CDRWin.

I'll assume that you have an original game to copy such as one you have bought and wish to protect. You will need a modchip for your PS/PS2, copying software & the right PC hardware for the burning job. I recommend the Yamaha 2100S (or E) CD-RW for optimum compatibility for read & write with the recommended copying software. If you take an EIDE connected burner, ensure that it is placed on the secondary IDE channel else the device will slow down the hard disk & buffer under-runs are likely to occur.

Go to http://www.megagames.com or http://www.sgt-dan.com/ or http://www.psxcopyworld.co.uk for detailed advice.

The basics are as follows:

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You’ll need to get the PS/PS2 chipped to allow backups to play. Go to the website http://www.playstationmods.com whence you can buy a mod. An internal mod is recommended & if you live in the UK, they'll do it for you if you are not a soldering whizzo. You could also visit http://www.modchip.com for their solution.

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You will then need copying software & patching software. I recommend just two programs and in my view you need them both: they are CLONECD & CDR-WIN. The former makes 1:1 copies (you'll need the tutorial from one of the above mentioned sites). Thus if you have an unprotected game (megagames.com lists games for which there are patches & the type of patch required; you could also visit http://www.sgt-dan.com/ and http://www.ps2ownz.com for lists/databases of games & their patches). If the game is of the same denomination as your PS/PS2 (e.g. PAL), CLONECD does the job perfectly. CDR-WIN stages the CD copy to your PC's hard disk so that you can patch the game as necessary (per PPF-O-MATIC.EXE downloaded from megagames.com together with the patches); then you burn the game back to the CD with CDR-Win.

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For the above to work properly, your CD-R MUST be compatible with the burning programs. The sites from which you download the programs list the compatible devices. CDR-WIN requires an ASPI layer to be present and this can be downloaded from http://www.goldenhawk.com

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If you copy games from one TV standard (like NTSC) to play on another standard (like PAL) then the game may or may not play in colour. There are patches to change this or you could buy a convertor that sits between your TV and the PS/PS2. I have one of these because I hate patching & the patches don't always work.

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Your biggest challenges will be DVD games & Protected Games. DVD games can't be easily backed up at present (search this forum under the keyword DVD RIP). Protected games are likely to be an increasing issue. Megagames, Sgt Dan and PS2ownz are usually on the ball here but for EA games, go to http://www.eapatcher.com. Sgt Dan's site describes how to boot from a DVD backup using the NEO2 modchip solution; it doesn't say how DVDs have been copied - presumably using the software supplied with the burner. Nero 5.5 will burn DVDs in a suitable fashion but I haven't tried it. The cheapest DVD burner & the cost of media make it still worthwhile to buy the damn DVD game!

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Finally an explanation of why the foregoing is necessary. Sony have gone to a lot of trouble to stop people backing up their games. Sony accomplish this by going through some clever pre-boot stuff that identifies from the surface of the CD/DVD whether or not the media is original. So we have to boot with compliant media (developed, for example, with the Sony OEM kit), pause the process, swap in the copy game (patched for NTSC/PAL or copy protection defeat), & carry on.

This forum has more than 20,000 subscribers. I'd bet that the bulk of them started off like you. It's not that difficult when you've done it once, especially with CloneCD.

Good luck & I hope this reply has been helpful.

[LIL LARK]

WHATS NTSC AND PAL??? AND WHERE CAN I FIND THE Sony OEM kit

[Charlie]

LIL LARK (06-10-2001 22:01):
WHATS NTSC AND PAL??? AND WHERE CAN I FIND THE Sony OEM kit

Did I miss the top of your pst that read "Thanks Charlie for the great reply. May I trouble you just a little bit more as I am so much of a newbie that we even have to go back a few steps further?"

If you don't know the terms NTSC and PAL you're hardly going to make out by diving into DVD Ripping! Still, as you asked, go to http://www.epsg.homestead.com/ps2page1.html

But because I'm such a nice guy, I'll answer your questions (which I've done so many times before on this topic):

NTSC is the USA/Canada/Japan TV display system, scanning 525 lines at a refresh rate of 60Hz.

PAL is the nearly everywhere else TV syatem scanning 625 lines at a refresh rate of 50Hz.

BONUS INFO:

All PS2s will play what they see (once you get past the boot issue solved with a modchip). So you can put an NTSC backup game into a modded PAL PS2 (for example) and NTSC will come out the back. Something has to be done about this in most cases otherwise what you'll see on a PAL TV is jittery or in greyscale or both. My previous post covers this.

[LIL LARK]

thnaks charlie sorrry bout before but i didnt even look at the name. I guess ur the guy that helps everyone with ther problems and u have jus solved most of mine in 2 relplies! thnaks alot!

[Warlock]

Charlie (06-10-2001 22:31):
LIL LARK (06-10-2001 22:01):
WHATS NTSC AND PAL??? AND WHERE CAN I FIND THE Sony OEM kit

Did I miss the top of your pst that read "Thanks Charlie for the great reply. May I trouble you just a little bit more as I am so much of a newbie that we even have to go back a few steps further?"

If you don't know the terms NTSC and PAL you're hardly going to make out by diving into DVD Ripping! Still, as you asked, go to http://www.epsg.homestead.com/ps2page1.html

But because I'm such a nice guy, I'll answer your questions (which I've done so many times before on this topic):

NTSC is the USA/Canada/Japan TV display system, scanning 525 lines at a refresh rate of 60Hz.

PAL is the nearly everywhere else TV syatem scanning 625 lines at a refresh rate of 50Hz.

BONUS INFO:

All PS2s will play what they see (once you get past the boot issue solved with a modchip). So you can put an NTSC backup game into a modded PAL PS2 (for example) and NTSC will come out the back. Something has to be done about this in most cases otherwise what you'll see on a PAL TV is jittery or in greyscale or both. My previous post covers this.
ROTFLMAO,I would have just advised to use the search function. lol.

[Charlie]

Warlock, That's too easy. The whole purpose of having patience is actually to grow people like SimonBradley (Premium Member) whose thread on GT3 Rip has resulted in the best ripping guide from Zoedee. And there are a few other motivated individuals who come through and provide info that I didn't know. I think this is why this forum thrives.

One of the moderators adds considerable spice and deals quite well with those who really are twits!

[Warlock]

Charlie (07-10-2001 10:09):
Warlock, That's too easy. The whole purpose of having patience is actually to grow people like SimonBradley (Premium Member) whose thread on GT3 Rip has resulted in the best ripping guide from Zoedee. And there are a few other motivated individuals who come through and provide info that I didn't know. I think this is why this forum thrives.

One of the moderators adds considerable spice and deals quite well with those who really are twits! Really,lol, well good luck growing this one. lol, i thought the rules for newbie's was to use the search function before posting.