need a ton of help...

[aka_khan]

please if some1 could contacte me threw msn msg

lord_of_trance_paul_oakenfold**********com
just copy paste that if u think it is too long

ICQ UIN= 94958715

will make it worth u'r while :)

[Charlie]

I'll put reply here for benefit of others.
Lesson 1: Search the Forum.

Lesson 2: Detailed step-by-step instructions are for you to organise as. Because my reply is lengthy, you can see why nobody is going to post step-by-step details here nor indeed by e-mail. You've just got to get through it like the rest of us.

I'll assume that you have an original game to copy such as one you have bought and wish to protect. You will need a modchip for your PS/PS2, copying software & the right PC hardware for the burning job. I recommend the Yamaha 2100S (or E) CD-RW for optimum compatibility for read & write with the recommended copying software. If you take an EIDE connected burner, ensure that it is placed on the secondary IDE channel else the device will slow down the hard disk & buffer under-runs are likely to occur.

Go to http://www.megagames.com or http://www.sgt-dan.com/ or http://www.psxcopyworld.co.uk for detailed advice.

The basics are as follows:

1/
You’ll need to get the PS/PS2 chipped to allow backups to play. Go to the website http://www.playstationmods.com whence you can buy a mod. An internal mod is recommended & if you live in the UK, they'll do it for you if you are not a soldering whizzo. You could also visit http://www.modchip.com for their solution.

2/
You will then need copying software & patching software. I recommend just two programs and in my view you need them both: they are CLONECD & CDR-WIN. The former makes 1:1 copies (you'll need the tutorial from one of the above mentioned sites). Thus if you have an unprotected game (megagames.com lists games for which there are patches & the type of patch required; you could also visit http://www.sgt-dan.com/ and http://www.ps2ownz.com for lists/databases of games & their patches). If the game is of the same denomination as your PS/PS2 (e.g. PAL), CLONECD does the job perfectly. CDR-WIN stages the CD copy to your PC's hard disk so that you can patch the game as necessary (per PPF-O-MATIC.EXE downloaded from megagames.com together with the patches); then you burn the game back to the CD with CDR-Win.

3/
For the above to work properly, your CD-R MUST be compatible with the burning programs. The sites from which you download the programs list the compatible devices. CDR-WIN requires an ASPI layer to be present and this can be downloaded from http://www.goldenhawk.com

4/
If you copy games from one TV standard (like NTSC) to play on another standard (like PAL) then the game may or may not play in colour. There are patches to change this or you could buy a convertor that sits between your TV and the PS/PS2. I have one of these because I hate patching & the patches don't always work.

5/
Your biggest challenges will be DVD games & Protected Games. DVD games can't be easily backed up at present (search this forum under the keyword DVD RIP). Protected games are likely to be an increasing issue. Megagames, Sgt Dan and PS2ownz are usually on the ball here but for EA games, go to http://www.eapatcher.com. Sgt Dan's site describes how to boot from a DVD backup using the NEO2 modchip solution; it doesn't say how DVDs have been copied - presumably using the software supplied with the burner. Nero 5.5 will burn DVDs in a suitable fashion but I haven't tried it. The cheapest DVD burner & the cost of media make it still worthwhile to buy the damn DVD game!

6/
Finally an explanation of why the foregoing is necessary. Sony have gone to a lot of trouble to stop people backing up their games. Sony accomplish this by going through some clever pre-boot stuff that identifies from the surface of the CD/DVD whether or not the media is original. So we have to boot with compliant media (developed, for example, with the Sony OEM kit), pause the process, swap in the copy game (patched for NTSC/PAL or copy protection defeat), & carry on.

This forum has nearly 20,000 subscribers. I'd bet that the bulk of them started off like you. It's not that difficult when you've done it once, especially with CloneCD.

Good luck & I hope this reply has been helpful.

[aka_khan]

i can't handle this i am only 15 so i am gunna wait a few more years until i know a lot more things so i can do this i know if sat here 4 a few hours and has some1 who knew wut they were talking about (u) i could figure it out but 4 now i will leave it up to others...actually no i am not guna quit i am gunna learn ....ok i have a mod-chip and game shar but i was wondering is there a site where i can download ps2 games already patched and play them?

[Warlock]

aka_khan,Try using the search function to answer questions. Also Charlies post covers everything needed to copy games you may want to read it carefully, All of us was a newbie at some point and reading is the best way to learn.

[Charlie]

aka_khan, I'm glad you chose not to give up. Warlock has been at this for months longer than I and helped me and many of the other Premium Members on the forum to move from a zero position to a more knowledgable state. The good news is that it doesn't take more than about 4 hours to get past the basics and it usually works first time.

As to downloading games from the web - well 650MB is an awful lot of modem time. And if you search the forum, you'll see that just as many questions come up about unplayable downloads and, unlike backup situations, nobody can help you out.

[aka_khan]

are all ps2 games protected?and wut do i set my CDr-win settings at so i can burn the game?
i have a Mitshitsu or something it is a company owned by Panasonic i think 8x8x32..is it good for burning it is usually always compatable with all CD burning programs i have ried and i have tried alot. also wondering when i "buy" as game where should i go for more specific instructions on make a backup? i know u said like some sites but i checked tehm out but i can't find the stuff u said can u be a little more specific like www.consolegamez.com/ps2burning...or at least what section

[aka_khan]

also how do i know if my burner is edie or what not how can i check?should i ask the guy who installed it?

[aka_khan]

ok i god CDRWin 4.0 full version paid for and everthing and i got CLONECD 3.0.8.2 piad for and everthing now i am almost there to learning how to burn games yipee!!

[aka_khan]

ok i live in northamerica i and i bought my ps2 from the local wal mart and all the blockbuster games i rented before all worked so i smy ps2 ntsc??cause i thought pal was 4 europe and stuff and i all the games i am gunna "buy" are also going to be from "wal-mart" here in canada ;) so will all my games be ntsc?

[master-cheetah]

yes

[aka_khan]

i hope charlie u have time to read this i would really like areply to the first and second question and the ohter questions if you don't mind and have time :)

[Charlie]

1/
are all ps2 games protected?
ANSWER: No in the strict sense. http://www.ps2ownz.com has a database of games and their patches. The patch type indicates whether or not games are protected. "Protected" means the ability to detect a copy.
2/
and wut do i set my CDr-win settings at so i can burn the game?
ANSWER: Use the defaults. RAW on reading is important but unimportant on writing.
3/
I have a Mitshitsu or something it is a company owned by Panasonic i think 8x8x32..is it good for burning?
ANSWER: Matsushita is not one of my devices (I prefer Yamaha). CloneCD (the other important burner for PS2) does not list a Matsushita device as asupported. CDRWin only lists the very basic 7503 CD-R device (8 x 20). I think you have the DVD-ROM (8571-B) with CD-R burner. When you run CDRWin it'll tell you which devices it recognises.
4/
Where should i go for more specific instructions on make a backup? Start at http://www.psxcopyworld.co.uk and click the TUTORIALS tab.
5/
How do i know if my burner is edie or what not how can i check?should i ask the guy who installed it?
ANSWER: If it's the Matsushita drive 8571-B then it's IDE. In Windows Device Manager look up the properties for the device. It will tell you all.
6/
I got CDRWin 4.0 full version paid for and everthing and i got CLONECD 3.0.8.2 paid for and everthing now i am almost there to learning how to burn games yipee!!
ANSWER: See (3) above re compatibility. Try it - the software will report if the burner is recognised.
7/
ok i live in northamerica i and i bought my ps2 from the local wal mart and all the blockbuster games i rented before all worked so i smy ps2 ntsc??cause i thought pal was 4 europe and stuff and i all the games i am gunna "buy" are also going to be from "wal-mart" here in canada so will all my games be ntsc?
ANSWER: Your PS2 is NTSC and the games are NTSC-U (coded for US/Canada).

[aka_khan]

CDRWIN says nothing when i startup but when i go into settings or something in devices i think it says i have "0:0:0 Matshita CD-RW CW-7586 1.00" & if i go down the tiny list it says "0:1:0 Pioneer DVD-ROM DVD-114 2.03" is this what you were talking about saying that i have DVD-ROM or something. and are these compatable?should i test by burning a ps2 game or an thing from CD Audio or copy something? and should i also test colnecd to check if it works with my burner?should i just copy any CD?or should it be psx,ps2,or anything?also if it works is this a good sign to be being able to bunr ps2 games?

[Charlie]

CDRWin will tell you what it finds when you try to read or burn something. So here's what I suggest. Put a CD in the DVD ROM and ask CDRWin (and/or CloneCD) to copy it to the CDR you place into the 7586. If all devices are recognised by CDRWin, then move forward by executing the copy. Then try the result. Take a simple unprotected game that won't need patching. Let us know the outcome.

[Warlock]

Your drive is compatable with cdrwin but not clone cd, [get your money back]. If you want to try to copy something try a PSX, PS2 game, You may be able to copy audio fine but not PSX, PS2 games. Do not try with a cdrw, use a cdr, cdrw's will not work. if you need a tutorial on cdrwin try www.psxcopyworld.co.uk, Deano's site, Again, Charlie has posted all of this info above. If you seriously want to learn about copying games do a little research at the sites posted above and use the SEARCH FUNCTION!.... Good luck, Aka_khan..

[aka_khan]

can the unprotected game be psx and can it be a bunrend psx game or does it have t be a original game i have to copy?

[Charlie]

You will be more sure of the result if you are able to copy a backup that works on your PS2. A staright copy with CDRWin should also produce a working copy.

[aka_khan]

clone CD gives me this information for my CD-RW
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Device Capabilities:
Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information!
Manufacturer: MATSHITA
Product: CD-RW CW-7586
Revision: 1.00
Can read CD-R Discs: Yes
Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes
Can read DVD Discs: No
Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes
Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes
Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes
Can write CD-R Discs: Yes
Can write CD-RW Discs: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-DAO: No
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO: Yes
Compatible with CloneCD RAW-SAO Write Simulation: Yes
Supports Burn Proof / Just Link: No
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its gives me this information for my DVD Player
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Device Capabilities:
Note: This information is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. CloneCD does not use this information!
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Product: DVD-ROM DVD-114
Revision: 2.03
Can read CD-R Discs: Yes
Can read CD-RW Discs: Yes
Can read DVD Discs: Yes
Can read MultiSession Discs: Yes
Can read Digital Audio Discs: Yes
Digital Audio Data is accurate: Yes
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for the cdrw it says it is not compatiable with like like 1 of the RAW things just read it and tell me if this is good new or bad? i am not really sure. so can i like bun ps2 games or no?using CDclone i will give my CDRWIN information after

[aka_khan]

also should i burn ps2 games at like 1x or 2x and do i have to burn psx games at those speeds and if not which speeds?i am not really going to burn psx game unless some1 ask me to but i am testing if my cdrw is compatable with the software by burning a psx gam and then playing it on my ps2 (i am burning a game that is already a backup of a psx and i know it works on my ps2)

[Deano]

The only real way of knowing if you can copy games is by trying.

Everyone has started where you are know, you will also make several coasters in the process but the main thing is trial and error.

Get hold of a non-protected Ps-1 game which you fancy and follow the tutorial for CDRwin on my site and if you follow it step by step you should make a working copy.

Don't be 2 disheartened if it doesn't work just post back here and tell us why and someone here will help you, but try copying first and see how it goes.

[Charlie]

You appear to me to be in a reasonable position with CDRWin. The DVD drive will accurately read your CDs and that matters. Your Burner will write Session at Once RAW - that's fine.

So you can copy games with CDRWin.

CloneCD shoud also be OK because with SAO+RAW produces the same result (I believe unless anyone can correct me) as DAO+RAW. So, as Deano says, try it with something you know works.

[aka_khan]

deano at your site i can only find tuortials for ps1 games that is ok but you only post ps1 games as well which are not protected i am manily looking to burn ps2 games but i will first test my burner with a ps1 game and try it on my ps2. all my old backup copies of my ps1 games work on my ps2.

[Charlie]

It's the same burning rules for PS1 and PS2

[aka_khan]

this guy helped me threw icq and he told me extract files from ps2 game with cdrwin so i did and htye were .bin and a .cue file and then he told me go download this universal ps2 media patcher so i downloaded it and patched the .cue file and then he sai just burn it with cd rwin bu clicking the 1st window and loading cuesheet so i did but it gave me this error when i tried to load the cue sheet. he said thats hoe he does his games and they work.i downloaded the patched from megagames so it can't be like a virus or somethign

"Error:Invalid CUE SHEET command at line 1
Unable to find or open file"

what does that mean and can i fix it?

[Charlie]

aka_khan (30-09-2001 01:42):
this guy helped me threw icq and he told me extract files from ps2 game with cdrwin so i did and htye were .bin and a .cue file and then he told me go download this universal ps2 media patcher so i downloaded it and patched the .cue file and then he sai just burn it with cd rwin bu clicking the 1st window and loading cuesheet so i did but it gave me this error when i tried to load the cue sheet. he said thats hoe he does his games and they work.i downloaded the patched from megagames so it can't be like a virus or somethign

"Error:Invalid CUE SHEET command at line 1
Unable to find or open file"

what does that mean and can i fix it?

Presumably you patched the BIN file. If so, the steps you described were correct. Look for the BIN file with the same name as the CUE file. It should be in the same directory. If it is, print it out and let us know what it says.

[aka_khan]

print what out?want me to take a screen shot or something?or do u want me to open a file or something and if u want me 2 open the .cue file or .bin which porgram would do this?

[Charlie]

The Cue file is a text file. Use NOTEPAD and cut/Paste

[aka_khan]

ok np i deleted the thing cause i only have a 20 gig hd and only 4gig left so i am cheap 4 space i will do it and reply back

[aka_khan]

ok so i extracted the files again and i am preety sure i patched it but it gave me this error msg this time sayin this game is protected ro something....i hope u guys get this

[aka_khan]

ok this is wut the cue file says FILE "C:\NHL 2001 (PS2).BIN" BINARY
TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
INDEX 01 00:00:00

[Warlock]

You can not copy PSX, PS2 protection with RAW-SAO. RAW-SAO = 2352 bytes RAW Data. This is the third best mode for CloneCD. Feature support is drive dependant. ISRC, Catalog Numbers and Indices can be written. Usually CD-Text, CD+G and CD+MIDI can be written as well. Crazy TOCs and Digital Signatures can't be written in this mode. If it is not RAW-DAO-96 then it is not 100% compatable with clone cd.

[Warlock]

DELEATED, posted twice for some reason!

[Charlie]

aka_khan (06-10-2001 00:42):
ok this is wut the cue file says FILE "C:\NHL 2001 (PS2).BIN" BINARY
TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
INDEX 01 00:00:00

If the CUE file and the BIN file are in the root directory of your C: drive, then CDRWin should work if you are following one of the tutorials. If not, then your cue file points to an invalids location.

I hope that's what's wrong.