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BBBTrueman
16-06-2002, 17:58
HOW TO BURN A GC-DISC step by step manual :-)
Ok i have READ the GC-Disc in my DVD with Clone CD. The Disc finally CD has 75:12 min, the game is NHL Hitz 20-02, and Super Monkey Ball (73 min).
Here are the steps to make a COPY of you Game.
FIRST:
RUN CLONE CD
SECOND:
Don't close your DVD-Rom, put the GC-Disc in and
Last Step:
Click on Clone CD Backup-Read from DVD.
ATTENTION!!!!! CLONE CD MUST CLOSE THE DVD- OR THE SOFTWARE CAN'T READ THE DISC.
OK. But now my problem, my 80 Min CD-R don't get in the GC, the Disc ist too great. Now my hope is this page:
http://www.cdmedia-dvd.com/shopping...dvdr.htm#DVD+RW
Here you can buy the ORIGINAL GC DISC WITH 1.5 GB! ALL YOU NEED IS A DVD-BURNER...Please can anyone with a DVD-Burner TEST if the Backup works on the GAMECUBE?
Or is there any Person in this forum that has a Panasonic Q, perhaps the 80 Min CD-R works! So i go and buy a Q :-)))))))).
OK thx, and excuse my BAD english.
BUT THE FIRST WORK IS DONE, YOU CAN RIP THE DISC's
PLEASEW GRAB THE MINI-DISC FROM A DVD, A BURNER DON'T WORK.
If you have probs to make copy,tell me, then i will make a screenshot from my Clone-CD Setting...
BBB|Trueman
akahomeruk
17-06-2002, 02:12
can u provide me with the settings needed plz
Holy shit man, first I thought my dvd reader was actually reading the disc.
I got down to making an image file but the whole image was made in only 1m30secs, problem: my dvd lamp wasn't burning at all, like he wasn't reading or something
I tried with 2 gamez; Luigi's Mansion and Smash Brothers
both image files took up 1,56 gb !!!
exactly the same time to make an image of smash and luigi
I've read somewhere on this forum that smash brothers takes up around 786 mb.... my image file 1,56 gig (probably the full capacity of the mini dvd)
anyone knows what I'm doing wrong here ?
help appreciated :confused:
Quall999
26-06-2002, 19:30
i thought the GC disks held 1.9 gig
akahomeruk
27-06-2002, 02:19
even from the offical nintendo they say their disks hold 1.5g
Hi,
Any news about copy on mini DVD-R ?
We wait that someone with a dvdburner perform somes tests with the mini-dvdrs 8cm.
akahomeruk
16-07-2002, 10:23
hold tite, gabbermp3 says they are getting a dvd burner and some disks at the end of july so lets see what they say after that. :)
Dead_Eye_Dick
17-07-2002, 19:58
It dont work, just enable logging and you can see that it is just adding Dummy data!
Stube 2K
18-07-2002, 16:45
not bad i did as it said at the top of the page and it riped monkey ball at 1.62Gig that's with a 6x Creative DVD-ROM only thing now is trying to get it onto a disc small enoghth to fit in the gc
thanx for the post
ok i can test for u guys
if someone can upload a gc image file to my ftp i can test it too see if it works as i have some blank mini dvdr here just need a image file to test it
also i have a panasonic Q and can also try burning it to dvdr,
just need a image file to test it
and i will post resalts here;)
if anyone can supply me with a image file email me or leave message here.
email me p_picardo@hotmail. com
ok im still waiting for someone who has a gb image file to upload it to my ftp so i can test the image on mini dvdr and dvdr
if anyone has a image please upload it to my ftp or if u have it on ftp email me
and i will post resalts here
Stube 2K
22-07-2002, 06:33
ok i have been trying to upload a gc image but i carnt seem to get onto the ftp but i think that the image it makes is a dummy file because if you get the image and zip it up with winzip the 1.6gb can be compresed into a tiny 1.7mb if i can get onto jjcool's ftp ill upload the image but sorry i dont thing it will work
Stube 2K
i find that very strange indeed??
might bbe worth trying to copy a diffrent game,
my ftp is open so your welcome to upload it,
im downloading a gc image right now, but the more images i get the more testing i can do,
if anyone else has any images please fell free to upload them to my ftp
Mr. Wilson
22-07-2002, 06:42
What about booting the dvdr? i've heard that the cube doesnt read dvdrs?! I think u can insert a original gc dvd and boot the cube to the black screen, than insert a dvdr...
may it will work?!? or is there a boot cd available yet? i dont know? or even a mod-chip for backups???
it's only an idea so... test it plz
Mr. Wilson
i do indeed intend to try
a, mini dvdr boot,
b, dvdrw, boot
c, dvdr, boot
im not saying its going to work but we can damm give it a try,
its all about experiment, thats the key!
also you say " I think u can insert a original gc dvd and boot the cube to the black screen"
im not sure that would work, but like i said before we can only experement and see what happens,
as for a modechip
i think modechips are a long way off yet!!!
as the gamecube it's not as easy to crack as the XBOX:mad:
as the gamecube motherboard has no generic FLASH or recognizeable ROM part on it
Mr. Wilson
22-07-2002, 10:17
Yes, but cant anyone create a boot cd?
(anyone here in the forum knowing how to try it?)
that'd be another possibility or?
the url for buying the mini dvdrs is not right!
anybody knowing where to buy them?
(sry for my bad english)
Dead_Eye_Dick
22-07-2002, 18:19
Dont waste your DVDmini's unless you get a valid image. When you make a image, check it with a .hex editor, you will see there is no data!! But keep trying, would love to see someone figure out how to copy a GC cd. Also, go to your local electronics store, they have miniDVD's but they will be in the Video camera section.
maybe this boot disk can work?
http://www.lik-sang.com/catalog/product_info.php?category=81&products_id=1964&
im not sure but its worth to try it i think =)
Cyber Akuma
26-07-2002, 07:45
I dont completely believe it will work but I got a 1-2 meg iso that claims it can boot import and burned GC games that are burned on mini cd-r (says it dosent work on mini dvd-r). Yes I know it sounds kinda fishy but if anyone want it, I will be mroe than willing to upload it to them, the zip file is only around 1-3 megs.
Mr. Wilson
26-07-2002, 13:32
If u can zip the image on only 1 or 2 mb it are only dummy files!check it with a hex editor! :(
Cyber Akuma
26-07-2002, 13:42
Its a boot disk, not a game. Plus I checked the iso with cd-mage, it does have files in it, its not blank.
Cyber Akuma
if u can upload it to my ftp i will have a look,
Cyber Akuma
27-07-2002, 09:03
Ok, pm me the login info.
cant send you a pm messeage m8
email me p_picardo@hotmail. com
gabbermp3
27-07-2002, 13:06
please send it also to me....send it through email if possible...
Cyber Akuma
27-07-2002, 14:20
Ok, whats your email? Dont forget to tell me if ti works or not.
ok i have tryed the bootdisc and i can confirm it doesent work.
the cube wont even try to read it.
Cyber Akuma
27-07-2002, 15:56
I figured as much
oh well it sounded promicing when i first looked at the file,
but hey, never mind sure somethink else will pop up soon mate,;)
mike.air
28-07-2002, 01:11
Yo guys,I hae readin all the posts ,and i can´t belive that nobody ever tryd to let the disc run with an open load(same trick ps1).Fact is that the disc runs in the other direction-so u may copy that disc but it only writes data fake like some guy at this forum sad!
So guys don´t waste ur time on burning images to any dvd or shit!!
I quess the only solutiom is a data linker like them gamboyadvance needs!!
Remember the cartridge shit back in the 90´s?
U just needed afloppy and that kind of linker and u saved data on floppy-and same wth loadin.....
Thats the only way i see!!
but iam stupid.my father told me that a lifetime:D
Cyber Akuma
28-07-2002, 01:19
Ummm, just today I opened the cover while the game was playing, the cd was spinning clockwise.
Dead_Eye_Dick
28-07-2002, 09:46
The GC spins clokwise, just like any other CD. THe bacwards thing is a myth.
akahomeruk
30-07-2002, 07:48
spinning a disk a different way to convenctional method is a myth.
however writing the data outside in may be a little closer to the truth but still not confimed.
but if true then this may be the reason for the gamecubes fast loading times.
think if it like being on a roundabout, sit near the middle and it goes quite slowly but sit on the edge and you could be going several times faster!!!!
food for thought?
Stephen Wildman
30-07-2002, 16:37
Has anyone tried the Nero way for burning a PS2 game for burning a GameCube one? I don’t think the GameCube has any protection due to the size. I think that was Nintendo's key defence. Oh about the cube not being able to read DVD-R's well that’s got to be bull**** the GameCube has a DVD Rom in it but just reads data only. Oh and one last thing I heard GameCube games are burnt backwards I don’t know if that has anything to do with the myth you guys are talking about.
akahomeruk
31-07-2002, 04:01
yes Stephen Wildman that is what we have been talking about in the posts above. but as yet it is not confirmed by any relible sources but is more than likely for my speed reason above.
not ever even touching a ps2 i am not sure of the "Nero way for burning a PS2 game" would you care to enlighten me?
about the size of the disk i dont think this really is nintendo's only protection from piracy. as we no they are totally kleptophobic, in that they fear pirating more than heights, enclosed spaces and spiders put together.
so yes this format is going to be hard to crack but i am sure there are alot of other protections on there as well.
my money is going to be something along the same lines as what the dreamcast had, since ninteno and sega seem to be good buddies now i am sure something got disscused.
nolimit966
31-07-2002, 12:19
Again,
If you have backed up a GCN disc try compressing using winzip and it will compress to about 2MB if its a dummy!
HAVE YOU TRIED DDUMP?
If you have a good DVD drive (that can read sub data) its supposed to read around 40% disc surface... maybe even more if you use the surface scan...
download from -
http://www.geocities.com/ddumpfrontend/
if you have any luck make sure you use a hex editor to check its data and not dummy files!
Also use all ripping mothods available on the software!
other riping ways is the DC method with the cable from the GCN!
I think the main problem is playing them!
If we could by pass the barcode we wouldnt realy have much problem - despite rumors of disc spining backwards and data writen backwards bull shit!
akahomeruk
01-08-2002, 05:07
i tried ddump a while ago from that very site but everytime it tried to read it my pc would freeze, and i dont think it was a micro$oft thing!!!!! :P
thats when i turned to clone but now we have discovered that it was a dead end :(
nolimit966
01-08-2002, 15:16
This usually happens to me using any software when trying to read GCN discs.
What you have to do is leave your PC for around 10-15 minutes after freezing and it usually unfreezes itself. What is happening is your Dvd drive cannot read the barcode part on the GCN disc so it keeps trying and trying.
After it unfreezes windows usually deteaminds it has a audio CD in with 1.99GB of data on it.
THEN if your DVD does read sub data use the securdisc method on Ddump to read the disc and on mine PC the error comes up saying> Your Disc drive CANNOT read Subdata (which it cant).
So if your DVD does read Sub, try this method again and when your PC freezes out - Just leave it for around 15 minutes and it SHOULD unfreeze!
akahomeruk
02-08-2002, 03:35
tried it m8, i left my pc on all nite and when went in the morning it was still frozen!!
but you say this happens with all software, not tru it have never happened to me when using clonecd, but as has not been discovered this method only create dummy files :(
my dvd reads sub channels no problem.
Quall999
09-08-2002, 09:40
Originally posted by akahomeruk
my money is going to be something along the same lines as what the dreamcast had, since ninteno and sega seem to be good buddies now i am sure something got disscused.
So your saying nintendo used a different DVD type, that can only be read by a specific dvd rom? This would mean that theres almost no chance for anyone to copy GC games with a dvd-rom. DC uses GD's which only GD-roms can read. And GD-roms aren't too common, not to mention thet cost more than a dvd-rom does.
the original plans of sega was to depart more towards Microsoft. But going 3rd party would bring in more money. Which is probably why Rare is thinking about going 3rd party. There's so much competition, staying a GC inclusive wouldn't bring as much money. But going 3rd party doesn't mean they wouldn't stop making GC inclusive games. Thought, thats what everyone thinks.
hjvp2806
28-08-2002, 11:21
Normally, a DVD-Rom don't read the GC DVDs.
But with this method it's "possible" to read them.
I created a image of the Super Monkey ball (1.56Gb), but it was strange that the lamp of the DVD drive did not blink as usual ? Strange isn't it ? But Clone CD crated a image of "something"
nolimit966
28-08-2002, 11:38
are you sure its not a dummy file?
Try compressing it - see how much it compresses.
One thing i noticed about GC discs is have a close look at the inner edge of the disc were the barcode is.
Now hold it up to the light...... and look at the barcode.
Its transparent! - you can see right through the barcode!
Thats why our DVD drives cant read the discs - Theres no inner edge for our DVDs to read!
so Where data would be on a normal DVD rom is a hole - Basically!
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This might sound a tad bit retarded but have you ever tried using a sharpie felt? so you can read the code? as one of you guys said that there seems to be a hole in the disk?
Cyber Akuma
13-09-2002, 00:30
Well, I just got blindwrite, I heard if your cd drive is capable, this thing can read through almost anything. Next time I reboot my pc I will try it.
i had a old comupter with sony dvd drive(i still have it but don't use it anymore) which could read gamecube games( that mean that my computer wouldn't freeze) but when i would check the size it say about it is music file and about 4 mb big. and if i put xbox games, it say the same thing that it is music file and about 4 mb big(i tried halo)
TheGreatDave
14-10-2002, 14:29
I can read Gamecube games, and get a 1.56gb file from CloneCD. But I don't have a particually good DVD Reader, so I doubt I'm getting anything everyone else isn't already getting. I've heard people say that there are dummy files or whatever, how can I check the file to see if it is?
akahomeruk
14-10-2002, 14:36
just try zipping the file with winzip and see how big it turns out
TheGreatDave
14-10-2002, 14:58
I get my 1.56gb Tony Hawks Image file turned into a 1.55gb zip file.
I also got a .sub file with the .img when I used CloneCD which I didn't mention, which is 65.2.mb
This is all from a Tony Hawks 3 disc, with a Pioneer DVD-Rom 117
akahomeruk
14-10-2002, 15:38
thats quite interesting what version and settings did u use on cloncecd.
when u were creating the image file did u have the cloncecd log window open? sometime it will just create dummy data block but if u read the log it will tell you that
try again and have a look :)
TheGreatDave
14-10-2002, 16:17
"writting dummy secters" :(
Oh well, guess its nothing :)
Starfox-fr
23-12-2002, 06:47
Hi,
i backuped a gamecube game with CloneCD, i have a image
to 1.56GB and when i open it with isobuster i see one audio file to 1.56Gb is it normally ???
i have a DVD recorder Pioneer A05 and few blank Mini DVD's.
How can i record it ???
Sorry for my english but i'm french !!!! :D
Thanks for responses
nolimit966
23-12-2002, 11:32
i really adoubt it will be copied properly - if anything it will be a dummy file - If you hold your disc up to the light you will see it has a ring of data missing that normal CDs and DVDs have! Its quite impossible for a normal DVD reader to read a cube disc.
what is the definition of boot? i mean where does it need to load to, after it does the gamecube thing at the begining with the blocks? because if you start your gc up without a disc in, it comes up on the screen with the memorycard edit thing. well when you start a game from there, it goes directly into it..
im not shur if this is what you need but its worth a try. =)
James
Cyber Akuma
30-12-2002, 16:32
I think I speak for everyone when I say:
............................
dirtyissues
01-01-2003, 07:35
i have a dvd burner, if some one knows for sure that this works let me know i will try it and see if it works, i have clone cd, and all of the other good ones.
OK guys, I am from the PS2 scene but I think I can help you. You are using CloneCD to read off the image and it comes to 73 minutes etc... That's you're problem. It only creates images from CD's - you can't use it for mini DVD. What you need is some dedicated DVD burning software. We use Prassi Primo DVD from www.prassieurope.com and the PX engine update with GREAT success! Try a couple of you're mini DVD's with that and it should work. Go to www.psxcopyworld.co.uk for some instructions on the program. Hope this helps you guys...
To do with the earlier Q: You can burn you're CloneCD image in one of the numerous ways listed below:
CloneCD creates ISO files so you could use Padus Disc Juggler, but ideally use NERO BURNING ROM as I know for certain that it has DVD-ROM support. Give it a go and let us know how you get on...
i'm a ps2 scener as well, and i was thinking just that :)
notice the name of the program........cloneCD.
try using Prassi PrimoDVD, RecordNow MAX, one of the latest Neros, or one of the latest DiscJugglers.
Discjuggler is a very versatile program, it might shed some light on the GC.
Prassi, Discjuggler etc. won't be able to read the gamecube games as they are in an encrypted format so even if you could read them they wouldn't write successfully.
Ever tried just doing a straight copy of a DVD Video without using Smartripper or DVD Decryptor first to unencrypt the disc ?.
PS2 discs are not encrypted so your methods work fine on those DVD's but Nintendo unfortunately have been a bit smarter with their copy protection.
The only way to read GC discs will be from the GC itself and transferring to PC.
ah
i guess thats what Enigma is trying to do
aDoL_iVxX
06-01-2003, 18:31
What sort of encryption does the GC employ? Cause encryption shouldn't matter one bit if you're doing a RAW copy... bit-4-bit, straight copy of WHATEVER data is on the disc, either a 0 or a 1 :)
Too bad CDRwin 3.9 doesn't work with DVD; I'd try doing a RAW read, ignoring errors, etc... just like the old PSX
You can make a bit-4-bit RAW copy of an XBoX DVD, and the only thing that'll stop it from playing is (I believe) a authenticity check to determine whether or not the disc is "original"- easily circumvented any number of ways.
Does fireburner work with DVDs? How about DiskDumper? Oh, and has anyone tried using a non-Micro$oft OS, like Linux... I've seen programs for Linux (I don't use it yet, I'm a loser I know...) that allow you change the tracking speed of the laser lens, for cripes sake! There's gotta be something there, yknow?
aDoL_iVxX
Simple copying software is not going to work on the GC discs, if it did then ISO's would be everywhere by now. If simple RAW reading would get around the encryption schemes like CSS then why after about 2 years of DVD burning do you still have to rip movie discs instead of doing just a straight copy ??
Quite a few of the cracking groups looked at it and gave up and as far as i know only one managed to get ISO's but that was from sniffing the gamecubes internal IDE port and transferring to PC. There are some ISO's out there but not on general release as they are awaiting a modchip to be able to boot them.
One of the big hurdles to get past is the variable depth barcode that is on the disc as this is needed by the GC to be able to boot the discs.
Just be patient and you'll see some big progress very soon !!! :D
aDoL_iVxX
07-01-2003, 12:40
In a reply to another post on this site, someone (i forget who, sorry :) ) said that they measured the laser lens travel area, and found that it couldn't even REACH the barcode area... then they drew over the barcode with black marker and the game still booted normally...
and also, a RAW recording DOES work with what you're talking about... with my pioneer a03 DVD-R, if I get a DVD movie and do a straight 1:1 RAW copy, the resulting DVD-R will play perfectly in every DVD player I've tried... the only problem is that DVD movies are generally bigger than 4.7GB now, and the cost of blank DVD-R media makes it not worth my while... I could rent the movie for $5, and copy it for another $5, but I might as well buy it for $14.99
Also, I found some interesting stuff out since I've been researching about some new programs that are designed to circumvent newer protections schemes.... if anything works, I'll let you know ;)
Also, does anybody actually know what the GameCube really uses as its copy protection scheme? Share, will ya'?
aDoL_iVxX
I know this is a little off topic but I think that in the next GameBoy, Nintendo should use the Mini-DVD in that too. What do you think? We might get wuite a good game out of one then...
The GC laser CAN travel far enough to read the barcode and if you mark over it the game will NOT boot. Lots of people were saying that the GC span it's discs backwards (anti-clockwise) but you only need to open up a GC to see that it's not true.
What most people don't seem to know is that there are two barcodes on the disc, You have a standard one near the centre (this one does absolutely nothing) and then the different coloured ring next to this is also a form of barcode as well (you need to look at it extremely closely) , this is the one that the GC needs to read.
So what program do you use to do your 1:1 RAW DVD copies ?
Seven O Two
08-01-2003, 00:16
i believe that program would be 321 studios dvdxcopy
If it is then it doesn't do 1:1 RAW copies at all as it decrypts the disc first, removing the CSS encrytion.
aDoL_iVxX
08-01-2003, 14:57
When I make 1:1 DVD copies RAW, it's usually RecordNow MAX or DiscJuggler 4... works for all 4.7GB sized DVD movies and PS2 games...
aDoL_iVxX
Hi i've got both a gamecube and a dvd burner (pioneer a104)
Trouble is after buying them im now skint, send me a small dvd and i'll let you know if it works.....
I ve tried doing a straight copy of a dvd movie trouble is there too big to fit on a 4.7 gb disc. i think the original dvd's are multi layered.
hence the reason for ripping to remove the crap you dont want subtitles french german spanish zwarheley languages to cut down on space..
Markiss614
02-03-2003, 04:11
Think Dreamcast.
The Dreamcast used a Format much like the GC games. SEGA's GD-Roms were also read from the outside of the disc.
Markiss614
02-03-2003, 04:14
I also dont think Nintendo is stupid enough to rely on their disc format as being the only protection. They should have learned from SEGA's mistake.
Cyber Akuma
02-03-2003, 04:16
So the only way to get the data on GameCube cds would be to somehow make the GameCube a slave device and connect it to the pc, like they did with dreamcast?
AXmichigan
02-03-2003, 10:53
yea thats right
also like the xbox too
but they also found some IDE ports on the gamecube
which could help..
but well see
Tried reading Luigi's Mansion JAP and Bioharard JAP with a Samsung DVD reader and a Pioneer 105 burner. Biohazard was simply ignored and CloneCD 4.2.0.2 hanged forever, Luigi's Mansion was accepted, but at he point of choosing DATA/GAME/AUDIO/ETC disc type, it spitted the disc out saying impossible to obtain informations from the disc (empty?).
Tried every disc type, always same result.
If I could make it read at least 1 game I could try burning it on a regular DVD-R, since I have Panasonic Q, which accepts regular size DVDs...
Cyber Akuma
14-03-2003, 16:56
You dont be able to read it, no normal drive will. Somebody will have to use a modded gamecube and make a slave program similar to the one used on xbox and dreamcast to rip the games.
Ferny#032
27-03-2003, 04:53
Check out "www.blade.cc" it says that a dvd rom add on is going to be released and will work like the doctor64 which was used for the N64. :D
Cyber Akuma
27-03-2003, 06:27
A DVD-Rom addon? And just where would you put that thing? The Gamecube already uses a DVD-Rom, its just made to only be able to read the smalldiscs. There isnt even space to put in a normal DVD-Rom withotu casemodding first.
Youre just trying to get people to buy junk from your site arent you?
Edit: Plus the prices on almost everything is WWWAAAYYYY jacked up. $120 for a pocketstation? $69 for a DC ddr pad?
AXmichigan
27-03-2003, 14:51
yea i dunno
i dunno whats goin on with gamecue releases
all ive heard is tthe freloader and the gba/gb/gbc thingy
well see how things go
Ferny#032
28-03-2003, 05:54
its not my site and yes the prices are crap, but hey it had some info. If you actually read it said that plugs into an external port in the gamecube. I did hear a rumor that it could be an external dvd rom that takes full size dvds and that you could burn 3 games to it. sorry if i upset anyone .......temper, temper.
Cyber Akuma
28-03-2003, 09:53
It would be possible but VERY VERY stupid of Nintendo to make a backdoor like that................
It would be interesting to see Nintneod's reaction if it actually works XD
AXmichigan
28-03-2003, 21:07
yea dude
thatd be sweet if it does work
podunkviller
14-04-2003, 01:55
plz dont try using clonecd on discs that arent cds. the ide port idea is interesting though.
AXmichigan
14-04-2003, 14:59
yea lets hope some team or the other discovers some link or somethin with the ide ports
Ok guys , just foget everything you tried o want to try !!!
1. Trying to rip a cube DVD with clonecd which is just a CD recording software...get it ? The only result that you have after burning your game is as it was previously said is a dummy file !
We can still hope clonedvd will fix that for us ?
2.You can try what ever you want, the ONLY way to backup a cube game is that someone writes his own program to move the laser lens. Haven't you noticed something different from usual cd's ?
3.Forget about what everybody says as "the dvd runs backwards" and all the shiet...the cube is a console that uses "normal" media (not like the dreamcast...).
4.and IF we can make backups, forget it as there is no modchip coming out and no bootdisc except the freeloader which only boots IMPORT ORIGINALS.
===>CONCLUSION : The cube can be hacked if someone writes a proggy or hopefully clonedvd will fix this fo us AND a modchip.
anyone tried with alcohol 120 , and hoping they come out soon
with dvd support, which they already have but not released
Cyber Akuma
09-05-2003, 16:18
Thats not the point, the way GameCube disks are made makes them unreadable on a PC.
AXmichigan
10-05-2003, 00:23
as well as xbox
and dreamcast
and future systems
yada yada yada
a decently good beneficial prevention of backinup idea
gamester_is
07-06-2003, 10:55
Has any one tried to use Alcohol 120%???
I've heard it can copy anything and its easy to obtain even though you must buy it if you want to know how to get it email me
I am also interested in finding out how to burn gc games so if any one would like me to try something i will
I will try to backup a gc game soon!
Theres soo many different ways i would like to try and experiment to be able to make a back-up for myself, sold my dvd burner = ( , was only 2.4 writer at the time HP200i, and waiting for a 6X writer and + - , bought it to back up all mame roms into one blank dvd, was nice 4.7 GB . Do also have that alcohol program and waiting for Clone DVD. Best of Luck
Cyber Akuma
02-07-2003, 16:02
Let me try to make this clear ok?
YOU CANNOT BACKUP A GAMECUBE DISK BY A PC DRIVE
Ok, now that im clear, there IS a group that ripped a GC disk by modifying the gamecube itself. However, nobody cna text if the image works because there are no modchips for a gamecube out there ........... yet.
Rage2Rath
07-07-2003, 13:00
I've been reading on the technical aspects of the Gamecube's Drive, and I found that it differs from most optical drives in its read/write formatt. Its called Constant Angular Velocity, or CAV. Most drives are Constant linear Velocity or CLV. Now diffences between CAV and CLV is that CAV writes info at an angle as opposed to straight on with a CLV. The onlt drives that I know that support CAV are DVD+R/RW drives. It has to be a + drive. So if anyone out there has a + drive SHOULD be able to read it. So if you do go ahead and try it. Also i found a service known as Bit Torrent that says they have GC to d/l, you have to get the BitTorrent client to get them but if anyone wants to d/l it and try and burn the file on a CAV drive that would be great. The GC games are under the "Games" section at top. www.suprnova.org yes that is the right spelling, at the time of this post the website is down and I'm hopeing it will com back online.
Cyber Akuma
07-07-2003, 20:38
I am pretty sure the disks are pripotery, a special format or filesystem only the gamecube can read, so far the only known way to read a gamecube disk is to hack a gamecube and make it a slave device to dump the disk into an iso. This is how they got zelda into an iso, I talked with the group that did it and saw pictures.
If there was a way to read gamecube disks in a pc, people would have done it by now.
Rage2Rath
07-07-2003, 21:12
well how'd they do it?
Cyber Akuma
07-07-2003, 22:08
I told you
They hacked the GC itself and soldered a cable to it so they can connect it to the computer and use the computer to read the disk (from the hacked GC) on the computer using the cable they soldered to it.
Rage2Rath
08-07-2003, 04:23
is there a guide that explains this?
Cyber Akuma
08-07-2003, 04:53
I dont know, its possible they might have released one but I dont know of any
Quall999
10-07-2003, 15:04
Originally posted by Cyber Akuma
[B]I am pretty sure the disks are pripotery, a special format or filesystem only the gamecube can read, so far the only known way to read a gamecube disk is to hack a gamecube and make it a slave device to dump the disk into an iso. This is how they got zelda into an iso, I talked with the group that did it and saw pictures.B]
My guess is that this will have to be done for every future console. This has to be done for DC, XBOX, and GC. I'm pretty sure sony will learn from thier mistakes.
Happy 100th reply , and almost 25,000 views
but wished the cube could of been capable of being backed up
by now. Only Time May Tell .....
heres a place that sells mini dvd's pretty cheap,
would be good to test on at cheap price
http://store.yahoo.com/meritline/homemidv18cm.html
AXmichigan
19-08-2003, 15:02
it could work
dependin if u could burn the iso
This sounddddddddddddddddddddds crazy... you know what I'll try it out know and see what happens.
:D
AXmichigan
26-08-2003, 00:44
good luck
Strange that clonecd will also ripp the cg disc from a normal cd-rom player with the same effect of ripping from a dvd-player.
The image turns out to be a #%$#@ file.
Remember the trick to zip it, to see if it's realy a 1.5GB image.
Is there any succesfull methode founded bij someone?
The moderator brothers, did they succes in connecting the gc to the pc and ripp off the games?
Cyber Akuma
21-10-2003, 19:10
Considering that GC isos are everywhere on the net.............. isos that work......... yes they succedded
Bushwick2002
21-10-2003, 22:16
yep they succeded dorland. they just not sharing how to do it YET. just wait a month or 2 before they release the method on how to do it.
IkariGend
13-11-2003, 04:53
SEGA's GD-Roms were also read from the outside of the disc. [/B]
This is absolute B*******, I copied many DC-Games and i also used my Dreamcast "open" during the Ripping Process:
The Dreamcast startet to read from the inner Disc to the outer area.
The reason some people think, that the DC would read from outside is just the fact, that the Bootfile was placed outside, so if you turn on your DC with an original GD it will do this:
Checking if there are 2 sessions, first the inner PC-Area, then the outer GD (High Dense)-Area, after finding the 2nd Session it reads the 16kb Ip.bin placed in the Leadin-near-Area of Session 2.
In the IP-File is the name and the adress of the BIN-File written (and many many more), which is also knows as the 1ST_READ.BIN (name is not relevant since it is the same name as in the IP.BIN). Because This Executable is placed in the outer Area, the lense is going to the outer area, reads the file to memory and then it will read the normal used files on the disc just like every NORMAL CD-Drive does.....
So I hope this is clear now!
(P.S. I also have the SPECS given by SEGA of the GD-ROM)
AXmichigan
13-11-2003, 17:02
this thread is basically done
since they found an official crack on it
Cyber Akuma
13-11-2003, 17:04
Yep
AXmichigan
13-11-2003, 17:06
good thing too
finally!
just curious if a modchip in way future would be able to be soo advance that a PS2 or XBox would be able to play GC games? Just a thought.
Originally posted by ABCC
just curious if a modchip in way future would be able to be soo advance that a PS2 or XBox would be able to play GC games? Just a thought. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!
TylerDurden
01-12-2003, 19:15
Im closing so people wont add anymore idiodic questions to this freakish post.
Tyler!
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